EPT[KSL3] Ro16 Day 10 - Group C/D Final Match - Page 10
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 18 2019 00:49 arbiter_md wrote: I remember the days when Best was monster PvP and everyone was confident he's unbeatable in PvP. Until he met Stork. If you think Rain can stop Stork, read some history books kids. Stork is one of the KeSpa player who transitioned the worst, he has been a pale shade of his former self. | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
But we have Best/Stork now, don't we? | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19298 Posts
The keys to Mini’s success come in how he handles his opening builds and his map draws. The maps he wants to play on are Circuit Breakers, Cross Game, and Overwatch. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/nS21gbb.png) | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19298 Posts
On May 18 2019 01:36 oshibori_probe wrote: Yup and best v stork will be a good series. As much as I love stork, Rain has the best PvP in the history of BW and can lose the Rock Paper Scissors aspect of the matchup but still win. Bisu would like to say otherwise. He could have an arguably higher score if he didn't go to the military and he holds the highest elo peak in the Kespa era. Post-Kespa Bisu vP: 23-3 (88.46%) Rain vP: 27-8 (77.14%) Bisu also had a similar record between the end of 2008 and 2009 where his record was 25 wins - 5 losses (83.33%) . It took him six months and over 30 games before he recorded two consecutive losses in the matchup. To wrap it up, Rain has only played Bisu once in his career and lost in that match. However, it was an amazing game and he truly is a worthy disciple of Bisu. He just can't be considered the greatest. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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Anc13nt
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Puosu
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
I seem to remember some protoss pressing him fairly hard, failing at a large goon attack and getting judo slammed into the ground? PvP is very unforgiving and if I am remembering correctly, Rain has been beastly +70%(?). If we use Last as a metric, Stork looked miles better but Rain is a repeat champion for a reason. He controls match tempo better then anyone else. He is the reverse Soulkey, who seems to be okay with any game fork and equally prepared to improv or just run a build script. Normally, 1 zerg would have me bummed, but this will be a great ro8 regardless. | ||
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nahyunjung
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On May 18 2019 00:49 arbiter_md wrote: I remember the days when Best was monster PvP and everyone was confident he's unbeatable in PvP. Until he met Stork. If you think Rain can stop Stork, read some history books kids. What do I need a history book for? Rain just beat Stork 3-0 April 26th lol... Anyways they would both have to make the finals if they're going to play again in this tournament and I really don't see that happening. Lots of interesting matchups coming up regardless of the results. | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
In PvP it's hard to play around someone who is superior with unit control and army movement, like Rain. | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada2000 Posts
On May 18 2019 08:28 Chronopolis wrote: Stork has really good PvT strategy, but you could see his control wasn't truly top tier. Forgotten shuttles, dragoons not pulled back at the right movement. In PvP it's hard to play around someone who is superior with unit control and army movement, like Rain. Stork's always been like that though lol | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
Yeah, it's true. I'm just saying the excellence he demonstrated yesterday isn't going to be particularly helpful when facing off against Rain. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On May 18 2019 10:30 Chronopolis wrote: ? intelligence and well crafted builds work wonders in every match up, which is why stork was historically dominant. He certainly wasnt winning his pvps based on his mechanical superiority...Yeah, it's true. I'm just saying the excellence he demonstrated yesterday isn't going to be particularly helpful when facing off against Rain. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Miragee
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Miragee
8594 Posts
On May 18 2019 10:30 Chronopolis wrote: Yeah, it's true. I'm just saying the excellence he demonstrated yesterday isn't going to be particularly helpful when facing off against Rain. Eh, Stork was fantastic with Shuttles back in the day iirc? Actually he had fantastic everything back in the day, unless he was playing WoW instead of practicing BW... On May 18 2019 16:22 Malongo wrote: I just realized that Stork's mechanics may be be better then his younger self (He may not be top dog in micro or army movement but he is no pushover either). Quite impressive for a guy whos TLDP starts in 2004. I don't think his mechanics are better than in the Kespa era. Just no, actually. But he has improved so much from the last tourney, it's incredible. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Nowadays, Jaedong is sadly gone and Last may appear from Flashlike to b-tier before of his wrists; Best should be a much more meanigful test. | ||
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