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[KSL3] Ro16 Day 10 - Group C/D Final Match

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 13:16:36
May 17 2019 07:19 GMT
#1

Korea StarCraft League Season 3


Friday, May 17 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 Korea StarCraft League Season 3


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD


Streams


Korean Stream
ENG Stream (Tastosis)


Matchups and Maps



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(P)Mini              (Z)Action
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(T)Last              (P)Stork






Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +





Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [Mini vs Action] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 1?

Yes (8)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 2?

Yes (13)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 3?

Yes (10)
 
100%

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0%

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10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 4?

Yes (9)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

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9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 5?

If you have time (5)
 
50%

Yes (4)
 
40%

No (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Last vs Stork] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Last vs Stork Game 1?

Yes (21)
 
95%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

No (0)
 
0%

22 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Last vs Stork Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Last vs Stork Game 2?

Yes (19)
 
100%

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19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Last vs Stork Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend Last vs Stork Game 3?

Yes (24)
 
96%

If you have time (1)
 
4%

No (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Last vs Stork Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +




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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 09:26:46
May 17 2019 08:29 GMT
#2
Thank you for making the thread Rawr.

I am very excited for tonights matches.

Action V Mini predictions:

Historically, Action has the racial advantage and a very good map pool for this matchup but Mini is the better player. So much so, that Action is a huge underdog going into today.

Action has had one of the strongest lategame zvts since he came on the scene but his zvp has never been of the same caliber and he is facing Mini during a time where zergs are getting crushed in the middlegame by very stable, adaptive sair, +1, 4gate speed then dt then temps then 8-9 gateways into third. Stork used this to just maul Jaedong last week and Snow used it to great effect last night vs Miso.

I consider Action a huge underdog and think he will get trounced if he goes for a 5 hat or 6 hat mass hydra - no lurker middlegame. I will feel somewhat hopeful for him if he adopts the 7 hat ling-lurker approach that effort has used to great effect for years. If I see him going for 3 hat hydra, I will assume he has no answer strategically or mechanically for the refined but not new build refereed to above.

Mini has been playing the sexist PvZ since old Bisu or super prime Stork. His zealot micro is the best in the world. His build accuracy and clear judgment allow him to exploit timings that only exist for him. He is the reason 1gate fe is now a safe and viable staple build and to top it all off - he is a sneaky, dirty, clever abuse master. We may have just lost the only zerg who can bang with him to the military... and I think he mangled him last (asl?) season as well.

Mini will win unless Action can play better against protoss then he ever has (offline).

Last vs Stork predictions:

The racial advantage sits with Stork, I consider the map pool balanced for this matchup but I am willing to hear arguments on this.

Stork is on the rise but I consider Last the superior tournament player.... the problem is... on his worst day, at his lowest point in broodwar... Stork could still take games off of Flash and any other terran. This matchup suits his skillset so well that against anyone else I would rate him as a significant favorite.

Last is the best Terran playing in leagues right now. He is at or near the top of his game, last week, he lost a scrappy match against the best overall protoss in the world (Rain) and in the process he demonstrated a few moments of micro that were the cleanest of anybody playing terran.

I want Last to win but I think Stork will. Something about the brutality with which he put down Jaedong really made me reevaluate things.

Looking forward to a great night with you all.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 13:15:42
May 17 2019 09:57 GMT
#3
even on his best day stork won't beat last.

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RIP Cursed as fuck lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:00 GMT
#4
It is my least sure prediction I have ever made.

I hope I am wrong and you are right 8)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
May 17 2019 10:02 GMT
#5
On May 17 2019 19:00 AttackZerg wrote:
It is my least sure prediction I have ever made.

I hope I am wrong and you are right 8)


at least yours aren't on the front page of the website

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/547710-ksl3-ro16-week-5-preview-chaotic
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 17 2019 10:05 GMT
#6
Action/Stork hype!

On May 17 2019 18:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
even on his best day stork won't beat last.

I have it on good authority Last will take stork's firstborn and raise the child as terran if he 3:0s him, stork has everything on the line
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2453 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 10:07:27
May 17 2019 10:06 GMT
#7
On May 17 2019 18:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
even on his best day stork won't beat last.

BELIEVE!

There was this quote from the preview
statistically speaking right now PvT is Stork’s weakest matchup(8W-14L 36.4%) and he has been playing Flash a lot

I hope that "playing Flash a lot" isn't referring to the 8-14 record, because that's not terrible against Flash haha

I assume that's not what it means, though
Don't get time to watch players' streams.

EDIT: The preview written by you, hah
The original Bogus fan.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:06 GMT
#8
On May 17 2019 19:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 19:00 AttackZerg wrote:
It is my least sure prediction I have ever made.

I hope I am wrong and you are right 8)


at least yours aren't on the front page of the website

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/547710-ksl3-ro16-week-5-preview-chaotic

Thanks for the link. We agreed last night. Tonight, complete opposites. Your Action pick... is suspect 8)

I would rather be wrong twice, then lose Last 8)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 10:10:13
May 17 2019 10:09 GMT
#9
I only wrote the preview between last and stork.

On May 17 2019 19:06 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 18:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
even on his best day stork won't beat last.

BELIEVE!

There was this quote from the preview
Show nested quote +
statistically speaking right now PvT is Stork’s weakest matchup(8W-14L 36.4%) and he has been playing Flash a lot

I hope that "playing Flash a lot" isn't referring to the 8-14 record, because that's not terrible against Flash haha

I assume that's not what it means, though
Don't get time to watch players' streams.

EDIT: The preview written by you, hah


are the banners so unclear that people can't tell who wrote which piece?

well its feedback
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5654 Posts
May 17 2019 10:11 GMT
#10
Pylon good unit
don't wall off against random
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
May 17 2019 10:12 GMT
#11
On May 17 2019 19:11 rotta wrote:
Pylon good unit


one of mini's favorites
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:15 GMT
#12
Rawr - I assumed your wrote them all from the context of our exchange 8).
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
May 17 2019 10:18 GMT
#13
Action is playing so smart
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2453 Posts
May 17 2019 10:20 GMT
#14
On May 17 2019 19:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I only wrote the preview between last and stork.

Sorry, that's what I meant, that was the part I was quoting from
The original Bogus fan.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:20 GMT
#15
7 hat ling lurker.

Like I said, this is his best shot.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2453 Posts
May 17 2019 10:23 GMT
#16
Hahaha cheekiest observer snipe I've seen in a good while
The original Bogus fan.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:24 GMT
#17
This is a good game.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
May 17 2019 10:27 GMT
#18
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 1?

Yes (8)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:27 GMT
#19
This is like a Best PvZ.

Straight up muscled him. Mini is so strong.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 17 2019 10:29 GMT
#20
I don't like the lack of air upgrade from mini. Seems like that and his low sair count, created a needless vulnerability.
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