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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On February 14 2019 02:45 superjoppe wrote: You can refuse to go pool first when you scout a center 8 rax if you want, because a progamer insisted on that manner of suicide. Everyone else will continue to make rational decisions and win games You disagree with the opinion of two of the top5 zergs in the world? I think I’ll agree with Soulkey/ZerO this time.  | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
On February 14 2019 02:45 superjoppe wrote: You disagree with the opinion of two of the top5 zergs in the world? I think I’ll agree with Soulkey/ZerO this time. Light is not a top 5 terran, but has arguably the best game understanding of any Terran player out there. By your standards would he not be allowed to have an opinion that should be taken seriously. Scan's understanding of StarCraft is by far one of the best among active TL users. Even if his opinion differs from a top 3 Zerg, it shouldn't be stepped on because you feel like it. Instead try to understand and engage in a discussion with him. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway668 Posts
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SkyDirector
3 Posts
On February 14 2019 02:44 BigFan wrote: Furthermore, it's the fault of SK and Snow for how they played. SK went hatch first when he scouted the proxy rax, his fault 100%. I watched that moment few more times. IMO, SK biggest fuck up was completely ignoring empty bunker. He had like 30 seconds or so to get rid of it while it was empty, but he chose to go outside with lots of drones and thus let marines in. This was the point of no return, even bigger than the late pool. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11112 Posts
That said groups of death are fun on the whole. Lot of tension. Great night overall. The pity though is no one in group A really excited me  Anyway we have Best to carry the protoss flag and we're kinda hurting for Terrans. | ||
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ortseam
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NoS-Craig
Australia3173 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On February 14 2019 02:45 superjoppe wrote: You disagree with the opinion of two of the top5 zergs in the world? I think I’ll agree with Soulkey/ZerO this time. If he's so smart why is he out of the ASL? | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On February 14 2019 14:54 Sabu113 wrote: Little salty I am not seeing more snow this tournament. and we're kinda hurting for Terrans. Well, the most likely outcome is to have 3 zergs, 3 protoss and 2 terrans for the round of 8 which is as even as possible race distribution | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4203 Posts
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Miragee
8716 Posts
On February 14 2019 02:50 Dazed. wrote: You can refuse to go pool first when you scout a center 8 rax if you want, because a progamer insisted on that manner of suicide. Everyone else will continue to make rational decisions and win games Soulkey just forgot to build the pool this time though, didn't he? Or he just went insanely greedy by going 13 Hatch (really?) and then 13 pool... | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1032 Posts
On February 14 2019 22:26 Dante08 wrote: Just watched the games and man they were awesome. Also I remember Calm was a great Zerg back in the day so compared to Tastosis I'm not really surprised he's doing well. Yeah, Tastosis kind of bashed on Calm, even though he's won an MSL and placed highly in several other MSL/OSLs. Which is more than any of the other players in the group can say. Super great games though, definitely a Snow fan now because of his constant and insane Reaver micro. Also happy for Calm for all the cheering he's getting in the studio! | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
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Nematocyst
United States164 Posts
On February 15 2019 07:13 Miragee wrote: Soulkey just forgot to build the pool this time though, didn't he? Or he just went insanely greedy by going 13 Hatch (really?) and then 13 pool... Soulkey cleary intended hatch before pool after scouting the proxy rax, I'm sure thinking he had everything covered. Looking at the footage and his facial expressions, he sees something and winces, knowing he's doomed. What was it? I'm not 100% sure, but I think he expected the bunker to not be there. Either he expected to have killed the SCV before it finished, or he expected to have killed the bunker already. Someone else pointed out there was a large window to kill it. Perhaps Soulkey forgot, or even thought he gave the orders but they failed due to misclick or something. | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway668 Posts
On February 15 2019 21:31 Freezard wrote: Yeah, Tastosis kind of bashed on Calm, even though he's won an MSL and placed highly in several other MSL/OSLs. Which is more than any of the other players in the group can say. Super great games though, definitely a Snow fan now because of his constant and insane Reaver micro. Also happy for Calm for all the cheering he's getting in the studio! Past deeds doesn't necessarily equal current skill. Unless my memory fails, the last time Calm played in an offline tournament (can't remember if it was KSL or ASL), he failed horribly. He had some nifty ideas, but they fell completely apart. I dare say that having lower expecations for him than f.ex. Last and Soulkey, who're both very current winners of offline tournaments, is perfectly reasonable. Or even Snow, who's also shown very good recent results. It's not that they don't believe in his potential or anything like that, but more acknoledged that based on recent results, it seemed very unlikely that he'd advance. But Tasteless did say; "Is Calm back?" when the mutas flew over Snow's base. Implying that they acknowledged his "legacy" and that it wasn't an unthinkable scenario that he'd have good results. Eventually. I don't quite get the stuff you guys are saying. They were cheering for NaDa, but there was never any doubt that he was the underdog. Despite his past. That's not bashing. That's just what the situation is. | ||
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Miragee
8716 Posts
On February 15 2019 23:49 Nematocyst wrote: Soulkey cleary intended hatch before pool after scouting the proxy rax, I'm sure thinking he had everything covered. Looking at the footage and his facial expressions, he sees something and winces, knowing he's doomed. What was it? I'm not 100% sure, but I think he expected the bunker to not be there. Either he expected to have killed the SCV before it finished, or he expected to have killed the bunker already. Someone else pointed out there was a large window to kill it. Perhaps Soulkey forgot, or even thought he gave the orders but they failed due to misclick or something. Well, yes he intended to go for hatch first but why would you build a drone afterwards, especially if you built a 13 hatch, instead of getting the pool down immediately? That was my point. I agree that he expected to kill the SCV and then the marines but accomplished neither. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On February 16 2019 01:16 Incomplete..ReV wrote: Past deeds doesn't necessarily equal current skill. Unless my memory fails, the last time Calm played in an offline tournament (can't remember if it was KSL or ASL), he failed horribly. He had some nifty ideas, but they fell completely apart. I dare say that having lower expecations for him than f.ex. Last and Soulkey, who're both very current winners of offline tournaments, is perfectly reasonable. Or even Snow, who's also shown very good recent results. It's not that they don't believe in his potential or anything like that, but more acknoledged that based on recent results, it seemed very unlikely that he'd advance. But Tasteless did say; "Is Calm back?" when the mutas flew over Snow's base. Implying that they acknowledged his "legacy" and that it wasn't an unthinkable scenario that he'd have good results. Eventually. I don't quite get the stuff you guys are saying. They were cheering for NaDa, but there was never any doubt that he was the underdog. Despite his past. That's not bashing. That's just what the situation is. I don't think they bashed Calm. Calm HAS been trash for some time now. It's like Jaedong a season or two ago--he'd been trash, then he started playing well, but it doesn't mean he's back; it's probably just a fluke. (Remember when everyone picked Jaedong over Last in the finals? I got shit for making Last a 55:45 favorite.) Even if Calm gets to finals, I still wouldn't completely buy this run. He's still fun to watch, though. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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