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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
October 05 2018 04:47 GMT
#421
Frustrated with Jaedong but man this was an awesome night.

Action holy crap.

ASL has been so good lately. Just having such a good time with BW back.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 05:39:07
October 05 2018 05:38 GMT
#422
On October 05 2018 07:39 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 06:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
Flash has such a free bracket. Lameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I think overall the brackets do not matter now, more or less all players who could put up a fight against Flash are already out of the tournament, probably rain is the only one left who is not 100% predictable outcome, so in that sense any bracket is free for flash and mini at least might be able to play 1 or 2 challenging games imo


You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong.

Last, Sharp, Rain
and mayyyybe Effort can all beat Flash.

Literally all 3 have shown they can beat Flash in BO series. Effort has the skill, obviously, just whether he performs or not.

All 4 of those players are on one side of the bracket. Flash's side of the bracket is a fucking joke with Shuttle and Mini, and Action, while he did play awesome today, is still unproven.

Flash has the EASIEST bracket of any ASL he's played in so far. Its lame
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 05 2018 05:49 GMT
#423
Well these were super exciting games... I wish JD had beaten Flash though. I guess Flash will win ASL 6, but I hope Mini takes him down somehow.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 05:54:17
October 05 2018 05:53 GMT
#424
This was a really cool group, though I have to say that I was raging pretty hard with Jaedong's performance. It feels like it's the standard now. He makes a great play or uses a great strategy, gets into a fantastic position to end the game, then becomes impatient and tries to forcefully end it. As someone who was rooting for him here, his game against Action and Flash were just painful reminders of Jaedong missing the mark in a lot of his recent games.

Maybe part of it is the pain in his wrists, or medical conditions, but it's likely he's pressuring himself too, to overcome the Ro16 and make it to the quarterfinals again. I'm sure to Jaedong, he still remembers prior victories and being a champion and add on the expectations from the fans, and it's too much. Was just painful rooting for him here yet again, only to get greeted by another exit from 2 games where he held great advantages. Imagine if Jaedong advanced first or he eliminated Flash. It would've been the best story this ASL, bar none. Snow beating Flash last ASL, even with maps that favoured P made headlines. Now Flash loses twice against Jaedong on "mostly" standard maps. We would've had another champion this ASL (assuming Rain just loses lol).

Too bad, the hype was real in this group and Jaedong again couldn't deliver. Either way, I'm sure it's the most painful for him so hopefully he rests up and recovers from this.

^ Sharp beating Flash? Nah, doubt it. Sure, Last, Rain and EffOrt likely have a chance if they meet him. Shuttle can still pull it off, and Mini is one of the Top 3 protoss atm that certainly has the skills. Whether he manages to contain his emotions and play as well as he can is another story. As for Action, hard to tell but proxy hatcheries like today likely won't work on Flash. He'll sniff it out, and stopped it before it takes place.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8025 Posts
October 05 2018 05:56 GMT
#425
On October 05 2018 14:38 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 07:39 M2 wrote:
On October 05 2018 06:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
Flash has such a free bracket. Lameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I think overall the brackets do not matter now, more or less all players who could put up a fight against Flash are already out of the tournament, probably rain is the only one left who is not 100% predictable outcome, so in that sense any bracket is free for flash and mini at least might be able to play 1 or 2 challenging games imo


You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong.

Last, Sharp, Rain
and mayyyybe Effort can all beat Flash.

Literally all 3 have shown they can beat Flash in BO series. Effort has the skill, obviously, just whether he performs or not.

All 4 of those players are on one side of the bracket. Flash's side of the bracket is a fucking joke with Shuttle and Mini, and Action, while he did play awesome today, is still unproven.

Flash has the EASIEST bracket of any ASL he's played in so far. Its lame


Effort is my second favorite zerg and his games never cease to amaze me. But if you watch online matches between him and Flash , you will see the diference. Flash destroyed him five or six games in a row....
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 06:09:23
October 05 2018 06:07 GMT
#426
The critical moment in G5 was actually Flash sniping the 3rd drone, as that triggered JD to make the hydras and attempt a bust. I think Flash was expecting JD to pull his mutas home and shepherd another drone to the 5oclock, then rush defiler (like a normal Zerg). Ofc JD doesn't do what normal pro Zs do because for some reason he hates lategame ZvT, so he decides to bust instead (quite successfully I might add).

After the first attack on Flash's natural, JD needed to do one of two things to win in G5

1) Kill the vessel while he had air control

2) failing #1, kill the low-ground CC and transition to 3base lurk-ling ASAP.

After failing #2, JD's loss was just a matter of time, as Flash had vessel tech, didn't lose a single vessel or tank, while JD had made and lost 7 mutas and about 18 hydras and had a massively delayed 3rd. JD could have exhibited godlike play from that moment onwards and still lost.

Overall, JD showed a lot of aggression and good instincts, but had uncharacteristically bad micro. Failing to kill the vessel while he had air control was a micro failure... not like the JD we know and love.
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Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 06:29:43
October 05 2018 06:22 GMT
#427
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:


Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.
It's about time.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 13:57:07
October 05 2018 08:07 GMT
#428
On October 05 2018 06:41 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 00:03 Malinor wrote:
Jaedong's peak was 9 years ago. As much as we like to pretend otherwise, he has not been the same player since forever.
When he wins, it is incredible fun to watch, but his blunders are numerous.
With his execution based playstyle, his age is just showing. It is obvious to me that Flash's strategical and tactical genius is less prone to be affected by age (obviously Flash is fast, but speed and precision is more important for Jaedongs playstyle).

Despite making the KSL1 finals, I'd prefer Jaedong would have retired years ago. It is just too painful for me when he loses.

Flash is one of the youngest so speculating about age impact is irrelevant at least for him.
JD's peak was long ago is a known fact, thank you, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't cheer for him, right?


I am cheering for Jaedong until I die. I still hope he moves on with his life.
And nobody of these old pro gamers is "young" any more in terms of their programming career. Regardless of age, I believe Flash ages better than other pros, because he is more of a genius than any other pro gamer.
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no_emotion
Profile Joined October 2018
1 Post
October 05 2018 08:58 GMT
#429
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
October 05 2018 10:08 GMT
#430
On October 05 2018 17:58 no_emotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/

sick sick analysis by flash
thank you sir
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 05 2018 10:31 GMT
#431
On October 05 2018 19:08 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 17:58 no_emotion wrote:
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/

sick sick analysis by flash
thank you sir


Thanks a lot man! Loved the analysis, especially the one of game 5.
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria164 Posts
October 05 2018 10:59 GMT
#432
On October 05 2018 17:58 no_emotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/


Pure gold. It makes you think how much of essence we are missing about the game and how deep the thinking on this level is.

Thanks a lot!
It's about time.
seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
October 05 2018 12:37 GMT
#433
On October 05 2018 17:58 no_emotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/


nice!
KaNaTTu
Profile Joined August 2017
Finland20 Posts
October 05 2018 14:26 GMT
#434
THIS HURTS SO MUCH!!!! Can't stand it!!
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
October 05 2018 16:46 GMT
#435


Jaedong talks about the games here, can anyone translate? Someone else said that he switched his patrol hotkey in the game vs Action so he couldn't micro mutas properly
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
October 05 2018 17:22 GMT
#436
On October 05 2018 14:38 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 07:39 M2 wrote:
On October 05 2018 06:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
Flash has such a free bracket. Lameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I think overall the brackets do not matter now, more or less all players who could put up a fight against Flash are already out of the tournament, probably rain is the only one left who is not 100% predictable outcome, so in that sense any bracket is free for flash and mini at least might be able to play 1 or 2 challenging games imo


You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong.

Last, Sharp, Rain
and mayyyybe Effort can all beat Flash.

Literally all 3 have shown they can beat Flash in BO series. Effort has the skill, obviously, just whether he performs or not.

All 4 of those players are on one side of the bracket. Flash's side of the bracket is a fucking joke with Shuttle and Mini, and Action, while he did play awesome today, is still unproven.

Flash has the EASIEST bracket of any ASL he's played in so far. Its lame

Mini has amazing PvT and Action's form is incredible right now. Flash still has to earn his half.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 20:45:59
October 05 2018 20:45 GMT
#437
On October 05 2018 19:31 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 19:08 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
On October 05 2018 17:58 no_emotion wrote:
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/

sick sick analysis by flash
thank you sir


Thanks a lot man! Loved the analysis, especially the one of game 5.

I am always amazed at how significant all these minute details to progamers that most of us simply miss. Well, at least it was clear that JD could have transitioned to something less aggressive after Flash's mistake which he did not. Now that the more I think about these games the more I am thinking about his wrists.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 05 2018 21:15 GMT
#438
On October 05 2018 17:58 no_emotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 15:22 Moridin wrote:
Guys, can anyone translate or just summaries the analysis from God on the games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWY3euz04Bc

Most importantly 32min onwards, explaining last game key moments and thoughts behind.


https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/9lj6pn/flash_reviews_and_explains_his_own_games_in_asl6/


Man at least now I understand why jd dove in to the cc at the end, thank you!
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orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 05 2018 22:32 GMT
#439
We'll be talking about that game 2 for quite some time.
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
October 05 2018 23:58 GMT
#440
any vods? youtube says WMG blocked it for me
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
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