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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 12:39:06
October 04 2018 12:38 GMT
#381
On October 04 2018 21:18 JoinTheRain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2018 21:10 M2 wrote:
I dont like the effort - rain, effort is the only opponent who is unwinnable for rain imo and I wanted to see a bo5 between rain and flash, now only in finals is possible, still hoping for rain - last 1/2 finals at least


Come on, man. If Action can win a group as stacked as this, Effort is not unwinnable for Rain. I mean, if this game is proving anything it is exactly that - the "on paper" lesser player can win, even dominate the "on paper" better one with preparation and strategy.
In KSL, did you expect JD to slap Rain that hard and make him look that helpless vs Z? Or Last to dominate both Soulkey and JD in a way that made that 1-1-2 build look like the ultimate zerg slayer build?

I am so glad that current games are unpredictable and this makes ASL and KSL and every other tournament a treat to watch.

You have point, but I really think that Effort beating a Protoss is the most secure bet one can make at the moment, even Flash vs anything and/or anyone is not as predictable as Effort beating any protoss easily (would have excluded bisu if he was active)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
October 04 2018 13:00 GMT
#382
On October 04 2018 21:38 M2 wrote:
You have point, but I really think that Effort beating a Protoss is the most secure bet one can make at the moment


I give you that but in those "secure bets" is exactly where the fun is hidden. Sure, effort "should" win vs p. But then the said P comes and play his heart out and effort looks like a tier two zerg that is out of place. I am into watching BW for exactly those sensations.
Like, Light in last KSL vs JD. Light was the safest bet vs any z yet he lost.
I just hope for entertainment purposes Rain vs effort goes all the way, regardless of who wins, I don't care. I am in just for that - to be the spectator of amazing gameplay and decisions and the tremendous skill that all of those players posses. In the end the better prepared player for the BoX will win. This is all, no excuses are given, there has to be a loser.
This prediction of outcome based on former performance in competition is totally unreliable and it gets proven again and again to be so yet we still use it It is unreliable because it's a future event it's trying to predict, one that has uncertainty in it but the amount of uncertainty is never clear so the predictions are vastly wrong.
But anyway, it's the entertainment value I am after and ASL and KSL surely deliver! Let's all just have fun and enjoy this breathtaking game while it lasts.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4141 Posts
October 04 2018 13:42 GMT
#383
Just saw the Action vs Light game, what a smart play hiding that hatch in that spot. The smirk on light's face at the end says it all.
reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
October 04 2018 14:00 GMT
#384
jd's play is so frustrating... any top zerg couldve won in that position
flyingrat
Profile Joined September 2017
43 Posts
October 04 2018 14:19 GMT
#385
my heart broke in a million pieces for JD
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 04 2018 14:51 GMT
#386
video is blocked
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 04 2018 14:56 GMT
#387
On October 04 2018 23:51 mishimaBeef wrote:
video is blocked

NOT AGAIN, I was at work
WriterReV hwaiting!
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
258 Posts
October 04 2018 14:58 GMT
#388
here is the nydus rush game from the kespa era
www.youtube.com

Juni vs Flash Averatec-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1

it's very bad quality tho
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
October 04 2018 15:00 GMT
#389
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/37472710

Afreeca vod works well for me.
It's about time.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
October 04 2018 15:01 GMT
#390
On October 04 2018 23:19 flyingrat wrote:
my heart broke in a million pieces for JD

Yeah, he did it to himself though, lost 2 won games pretty much
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
O.P.
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden109 Posts
October 04 2018 15:03 GMT
#391
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but JD's economy seemed very weak throughout the game. Letting Flash retake his natural would have put him at a disadvantage.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 15:04:25
October 04 2018 15:03 GMT
#392
Jaedong's peak was 9 years ago. As much as we like to pretend otherwise, he has not been the same player since forever.
When he wins, it is incredible fun to watch, but his blunders are numerous.
With his execution based playstyle, his age is just showing. It is obvious to me that Flash's strategical and tactical genius is less prone to be affected by age (obviously Flash is fast, but speed and precision is more important for Jaedongs playstyle).

Despite making the KSL1 finals, I'd prefer Jaedong would have retired years ago. It is just too painful for me when he loses.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 04 2018 15:06 GMT
#393
afreeca vod works true, though it's locked at max quality? youtube vid is blocked
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 04 2018 15:15 GMT
#394
Is the afreeca vod watchable from Europe? It was a pain every time I ever tried watching it.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 15:28:25
October 04 2018 15:28 GMT
#395
Worked nicely for me.
It's about time.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 04 2018 15:35 GMT
#396
On October 05 2018 00:28 Moridin wrote:
Worked nicely for me.

Will try, I'm from Bulgaria too.

Nice nickname, by the way
WriterReV hwaiting!
rand0MPrecisi0n
Profile Joined February 2017
313 Posts
October 04 2018 16:49 GMT
#397
Flash's youtube channel has all games in korean

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4TDU9SEVB0EgslnTI2O9IQ/videos
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 04 2018 16:53 GMT
#398
watched the series

came excited, left bittersweet and slightly disappointed. urgh, i could feel the pain of the loss through my screen...
POGGERS
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
October 04 2018 17:05 GMT
#399
Wow this group was so fun, every game was super good to watch. Action's strategy was insaaaaanee, also sick holds from Flash in this last game !
MinscandBoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
252 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 19:03:15
October 04 2018 17:25 GMT
#400
Fun group to watch, sad to see Jaedong lose out, but when Action beat Light to make it a ZvZ winners it got me nervous for sure. The muta attack vs Action had me ??????
Funny to see Light's depot placement at the ramps after Flash takes the Dong to the face game 1. Last game was pretty crazy, see lots of people saying Jaedong threw it away but Flash made lots of mistakes that gave Jaedong an advantage too.(getting his vults pinned was a big one) Both sides made missteps but Jaedong's over-commit with mutas and only a 2 base eco wasn't enough to support the massive amount of units needed to counter the follow up after Flash manages to hold. Flash also crucially denies Jaedong's third for a while with the vultures. Jaedong has hydra tech but they are past their prime effectiveness. Dong tries to drone up but Flash pushes before Jaedong's eco can take off and before he can macro up enough to stop him. GG!
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