• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:18
CEST 18:18
KST 01:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2?
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
[Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 XUN appreciation thread Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6486 users

[KSL] Grand Finals: Last vs Jaedong - Page 15

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 23 Next All
The balance whining is starting to get out of hand. TL has always had a "zero tolerance" policy when it comes to addressing balance whine. Please be wary of what you post because we will be handing out mod actions now.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 08 2018 09:27 GMT
#281
how the heck does this kid go from losing 0-3 to mini to stomping jaedong 4-0?

his macro holy shit... you really need defilers against all those marines, not ultras
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 08 2018 09:27 GMT
#282
Why did I stay up to watch a 4-0. REGRETS
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 08 2018 09:27 GMT
#283
I don't think 3 base ultra is very good if they continually pump tanks, as long as you target fire the ultras with the tanks they die pretty quick. ='[
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10835 Posts
September 08 2018 09:27 GMT
#284
Was really well played by Last, he played very strategic and brilliant, he deserved the wins.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
September 08 2018 09:28 GMT
#285
they need to bring back the anti terran maps
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
September 08 2018 09:28 GMT
#286
didn’t expect the 4-0! amazing games though
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
September 08 2018 09:28 GMT
#287
I don't like the decision to go ultra tech in the last game, lurker + defiler on 3 bases is better economically and you can hold the vessel tank push easily.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
September 08 2018 09:29 GMT
#288
Wow, Bo7 TvZ without a single defiler sighting. Strange times we live in.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5201 Posts
September 08 2018 09:29 GMT
#289
Is 1-1-1 op?
Such an early flexibility from T seems very difficult to handle for Z
Taxes are for Terrans
reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
September 08 2018 09:29 GMT
#290
i dont get the reason why these progamers rush to ultra skipping lurkers... it never works especially when ur behind and defending..
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 08 2018 09:30 GMT
#291
On September 08 2018 18:29 Uldridge wrote:
Is 1-1-1 op?
Such an early flexibility from T seems very difficult to handle for Z

really? i think its the opposite. you can bust terran so easily. no one besides flash or last can really hold that. i think it's an overused build.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
September 08 2018 09:31 GMT
#292
On September 08 2018 18:29 Uldridge wrote:
Is 1-1-1 op?
Such an early flexibility from T seems very difficult to handle for Z


It's really good but it's really fragile, one mistake early game and you're dead. When Last and Flash use it it does seem good. I think Zerg just needs to forget about attacking when Terrans do 1-1-1 and just drone like mad and get your third up.
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
September 08 2018 09:31 GMT
#293
On September 08 2018 18:29 Uldridge wrote:
Is 1-1-1 op?
Such an early flexibility from T seems very difficult to handle for Z

It was pretty broken at first but apparently people have figured out how to handle it

The results probably look different when it's anyone other than last/flash doing it
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
September 08 2018 09:31 GMT
#294
jaedong looked pretty stubborn and washed up
no lurker or defilers lol wtf
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 08 2018 09:31 GMT
#295
On September 08 2018 18:29 reminisce12 wrote:
i dont get the reason why these progamers rush to ultra skipping lurkers... it never works especially when ur behind and defending..

If I had to guess, a close 3rd is easier to hold vs 1-1-1 and lurker into defiler is worse then? There definitely is some reason if multiple people (SK, JD, Killer) do it.
I think it's very naive to think that it's not good.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
September 08 2018 09:32 GMT
#296
On September 08 2018 18:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 18:29 reminisce12 wrote:
i dont get the reason why these progamers rush to ultra skipping lurkers... it never works especially when ur behind and defending..

If I had to guess, a close 3rd is easier to hold vs 1-1-1 and lurker into defiler is worse then? There definitely is some reason if multiple people (SK, JD, Killer) do it.
I think it's very naive to think that it's not good.

no this random TL poster knows better than all of the best zerg players clearly
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
September 08 2018 09:32 GMT
#297
I am back because i was curious to see what happened
and Jd loses with 4-0.....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
September 08 2018 09:32 GMT
#298
On September 08 2018 18:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 18:29 reminisce12 wrote:
i dont get the reason why these progamers rush to ultra skipping lurkers... it never works especially when ur behind and defending..

If I had to guess, a close 3rd is easier to hold vs 1-1-1 and lurker into defiler is worse then? There definitely is some reason if multiple people (SK, JD, Killer) do it.
I think it's very naive to think that it's not good.


No way defiler + lurker is worse. Dark swarm + 2 lurkers and Terran has to retreat.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2045 Posts
September 08 2018 09:33 GMT
#299
SK should have put up his A-game, JD vs SK would have been more exciting
EntusGalleries.com - CJ Uniform Sale
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-08 09:38:25
September 08 2018 09:33 GMT
#300
Oh, I thought this was scheduled to start 30 minutes from now at 19:00 KST. Dang. Oh well, I'll just watch the VODs.
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
16:15
Rotti's PatchesSC Open #2
RotterdaM144
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2052
RotterdaM 144
TKL 110
Trap 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2329
Bisu 1901
Jaedong 1096
Horang2 630
EffOrt 622
Light 379
Stork 234
Rush 170
Snow 144
Zeus 61
[ Show more ]
Liquid`Ret 57
Pusan 48
Sexy 25
ToSsGirL 23
Terrorterran 20
Aegong 18
Rock 18
sorry 16
Sacsri 11
firebathero 0
Dota 2
Gorgc6315
qojqva3181
Dendi1987
syndereN419
BananaSlamJamma134
Counter-Strike
x6flipin696
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu291
Other Games
singsing2038
hiko1086
fl0m1006
ceh9542
Beastyqt266
Hui .187
ArmadaUGS100
Trikslyr44
QueenE34
Rex32
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV334
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 72
• mYiSmile123
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV527
League of Legends
• Nemesis2388
• TFBlade698
Other Games
• Shiphtur223
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 42m
The PondCast
17h 42m
OSC
1d 6h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 18h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Special KOR vs CHN
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.