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[ASL5] Semi-Final Snow vs Mini
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Set 1: Transistor Set 2: Gladiator Set 3: Sparkle Set 4: Third World Set 5: Transistor + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306284178549243907/422363500787138571/Image_246.png) | ||
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May be a mirror match but way better than tvt or zvz! Go PROTOSS | ||
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On May 08 2018 16:40 BlueStar wrote: The first time s. 2004 to have pvp final in OSL/ASL. May be a mirror match but way better than tvt or zvz! Go PROTOSS I mean yeah let's ignore MSL. | ||
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ah well, Thursday it is. | ||
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On May 09 2018 02:50 funnybananaman wrote: Gotta say i was skeptical of Starcraft:remastered being entertaining to watch in tournaments in korea at first but ASL is really clean and professional and well done. Really enjoying the tasteosis. Wonder who will win 1st place? Compared to what? ASL has been like this before Remastered? | ||
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On May 09 2018 02:50 funnybananaman wrote: Gotta say i was skeptical of Starcraft:remastered being entertaining to watch in tournaments in korea at first but ASL is really clean and professional and well done. Really enjoying the tasteosis. Wonder who will win 1st place? I'm not sure what this is about as we've already had 4 remastered tournaments to judge, but I'm gonna take the high road and agree that tastosis is cool and that ASL is also. | ||
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On May 09 2018 08:36 Dazed. wrote: Go mini! Mostly just because i dont like snow for some reason. probably because you live in Canada | ||
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Can confirm this logic, am canadian. | ||
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I lol'd hard. | ||
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hiro protagonist
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 ) but I like mini too, he's impressed me this whole tournament. After he held that ling all in in the round of 24 I was watching him closely. | ||
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On May 09 2018 14:55 winson wrote: The good thing about PvP is we won't see posts about map balance I will be looking very forward to that. It's been like reading the same children's book, over and over again. | ||
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But Snow has been my favorite player (alongside Movie) since a period before his quarter finals vs Jaedong in MSL. This guy is one of the greatest talents to come up at around 2010, yet this is his very first semifinals throughout his whole career. I cannot even begin to imagine how much he wants this. | ||
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It was like almost trash talk :D | ||
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Letmelose
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On May 10 2018 19:00 tanngard wrote: I love Mini... But Snow has been my favorite player (alongside Movie) since a period before his quarter finals vs Jaedong in MSL. This guy is one of the greatest talents to come up at around 2010, yet this is his very first semifinals throughout his whole career. I cannot even begin to imagine how much he wants this. SnOw. The youngest ever player to win the Courage Tournament (won it at the age of 13). 2010 KeSPA Rookie of the Year (players who won the award previously all went on to become legendary players such as Stork, Jaedong, Flash, and EffOrt) This is his chance to live up to his promise as one of the biggest gaming talents to come out of the CJ Entus household. | ||
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On May 10 2018 19:18 Letmelose wrote: SnOw. The youngest ever player to win the Courage Tournament (won it at the age of 13). 2010 KeSPA Rookie of the Year (players who won the award previously all went on to become legendary players such as Stork, Jaedong, Flash, and EffOrt) This is his chance to live up to his promise as one of the biggest gaming talents to come out of the CJ Entus household. I still remember that jaedong pdpop msl series. Most underrated series of all time. Favourite protoss. | ||
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On May 10 2018 19:27 Golgotha wrote: so mini and rain are considered the pvp gods? Mini has played more PvP online sponsored matches in the past year or so than any other player (341 online sponsored mirror matches in the past year), and has a superior head-to-head score versus everybody except against SnOw. | ||
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Edit: crystals, not minerals | ||
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On May 10 2018 19:45 Jackal03 wrote: What is this new total recall bug that tasteless said? here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/533467-game-changing-discovery-clustered-recall it seems crazyyyyyyy | ||
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By the way, this new bug is really game breaking! It should be forbidden in tournaments | ||
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so many shots | ||
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On May 10 2018 20:15 arbiter_md wrote: All that Snow needed there was a pylon at the entrance. And a little better position for reavers oh yeah, my mind is blanking on the name for that pylon is right now, can anyone remember? draws fire from goons in the back... uugghhhh can't remember!! | ||
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Also that shuttle lol What? That was fast. | ||
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razorsuKe
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that was soul crushing | ||
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r.Evo
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I guess this is an all-in that the game works 50% some of the time and pulls even in some other cases? He has a 50/50 shot if Snow is right next to him depending on the direction Snow scouts in and it turns out even if it's cross-positions since the dragoon will be out in time? If that assumption is correct it works vs this type of opening in 1/3rd of cases, loses in 1/3rd and pulls even in 1/3rd? Am I missing something? | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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Truer words... | ||
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PVJ
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I want it to go to game 5 because the Transistor match was so awesome. | ||
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BigFan
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On May 10 2018 20:36 Twinkle Toes wrote: dIDNT mini used to play as zerg? no? At least, not that I'm aware of. | ||
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razorsuKe
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game is still intense but that's a sigh of relief. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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Oh well, they got to be cool for like two seconds after using the term 'dumpster fire'. | ||
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razorsuKe
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WHAT COME ON!!!!!!! OMG | ||
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razorsuKe
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my heart... I can't take this omg.... those reavs were FULL HEALTH | ||
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that hit me, right in the wallet | ||
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PvP is usually my least favorite matchup to watch, but that was actually pretty good. Except for Game 3. | ||
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On May 10 2018 20:51 [[Starlight]] wrote: Rain vs Snow... the precipitation Finals. lol I didn't realize. Almost as good as Rain vs Shine or Last vs Best | ||
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On May 10 2018 20:59 Qikz wrote: Mini was 100% thrown off by game 3. It was the same back in the Nate MSL 2009 with Flash vs Jaedong where after the powercut game 3, Flash just didn't look llike the same player. His reaction speaks volumes imo though I don't think he was that thrown off tbh. Biggest mistake was losing that shuttle with 2 reavers and not pushing Snow after he had the goon advantage at Snow's exp. Gave Snow the opportunity to stabilize a bit, get the pylon, cannon etc... | ||
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On May 10 2018 21:00 BigFan wrote: Man that was an intense last game. Snow defended that push by Mini so damn well and used the high ground goons+cannon+reaver position amazingly. That shuttle snipe too but if was Snow's control and decisions there that were insane imo! +1. That high ground goon drop/re-position in the middle of the battle was so clutch.  | ||
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On May 10 2018 21:04 [[Starlight]] wrote: +1. That high ground goon drop/re-position in the middle of the battle was so clutch. Ya. Even though Mini lose some probes to dts, he had a large advantage there. Something like 8 to 3 goons, but he didn't push it and Snow prepared for the assault as best as one can in that situation. | ||
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razorsuKe
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snOw > rain? that's what I'm feeling | ||
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On May 10 2018 21:04 [[Starlight]] wrote: +1. That high ground goon drop/re-position in the middle of the battle was so clutch. And sexy as hell. Snow definitely has style on his side. | ||
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At first in liquipedia it was written that the final will be on 20th, but in the end of the stream they showed us that it will be played on 27th of May. I wonder if there will be any rescheduling of the match for the 3rd place as well? | ||
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Poll: Recommended game 1? Yes (27) No (1) If you have time (1) 29 total votes Your vote: Recommended game 1? Poll: Recommended game 2? If you have time (13) Yes (7) No (3) 23 total votes Your vote: Recommended game 2? Poll: Recommended game 3? No (18) Yes (8) If you have time (0) 26 total votes Your vote: Recommended game 3? Poll: Recommended game 4? Yes (19) If you have time (5) No (2) 26 total votes Your vote: Recommended game 4? | ||
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On May 10 2018 21:23 Letmelose wrote: 2010 KeSPA Rookie of the Year (SnOw) versus 2011 KeSPA Rookie of the Year (Rain) incoming. They finally arrived where they belong | ||
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On May 10 2018 22:28 Liquid`Drone wrote: mini's play in game 3 is.. baffling. I can't remember seeing a progamer make a decision where there's just.. no way of justifying his action. like, there's absolutely no justification for sending out the shuttle when it's being attacked by the sair. None. Like I would expect a 1200 mmr player to not make that mistake. It's completely incomprehensible. To me, it looks like he really misjudged the distance to Snow's expansion. | ||
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My reaction to seeing that was comparable to say, if a zerg went 9pool speed, made 10 lings first, protoss saw that, protoss countered by not just building 3 cannons in his natural, but literally 7, and zerg then going 'well I kinda committed to my speedling build' and then building another 16 lings and attacking with 28 of them. That's the level of stupidity displayed in the sparkle game. | ||
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Here's SnOw vs Mini ---> | ||
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On May 10 2018 20:51 [[Starlight]] wrote: Rain vs Snow... the precipitation Finals. Lol good one! | ||
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On May 10 2018 22:45 LRM)VinCi wrote: Link for youtube stream is wrong.. Shows Rain vs herO Here's SnOw vs Mini ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCn9WWIk4so Snow really looks like Jaedong doesn't he | ||
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On May 10 2018 22:40 Liquid`Drone wrote: he was able to move 30% of the distance.. My reaction to seeing that was comparable to say, if a zerg went 9pool speed, made 10 lings first, protoss saw that, protoss countered by not just building 3 cannons in his natural, but literally 7, and zerg then going 'well I kinda committed to my speedling build' and then building another 16 lings and attacking with 28 of them. That's the level of stupidity displayed in the sparkle game. Not to mention that Mini did send the shuttle to initially scout the expo. If he had simply unloaded his units back in his base, he could've defended against the drop (or Snow wouldn't even have dropped). Just let the shuttle die. It's a BO disadvantage, but by no means an unwinnable position. I guess his brain just went into some denial mode and just blanked out. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't opening robo on Sparkle quite a risky opening to began with? The standard opening should be Stargate corsairs. So what was his build trying to blind counter? | ||
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But getting screwed by the randomness is no excuse for what happens when he gets scouted by the sair and it starts attacking his shuttle while his shuttle is still in his main base.. there's no defense for this. Accept that you lost your first shuttle and don't try to go again until you have speed. Might as well have just said gg the second he was scouted and left the game, I'd have more respect for that tbh. | ||
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Also, SnOw has some real luck with his scouting=) He always get that perfect scout! I guess the sparkle game would have looked a lot different had Snow not scouted him on the first try. Mini's build was more of a 66.6% scout. If Mini didn't find snow with the shuttlescout he'd try another location for his first drop, while Snow needed the 33.3% luck to make it that one-sided atleast. Snow played it smarter and cooler, I think Mini is a force to be reckoned with but he needs a bit more experience from the big stage. | ||
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On May 10 2018 20:51 [[Starlight]] wrote: Rain vs Snow... the precipitation Finals. I bet Blizzard really wants Snow to win. Wish they'd shown mini after teh sparkle loss, usually they go to teh loser first, no? To me he is now TiltToss | ||
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On May 10 2018 22:30 BigFan wrote: To me, it looks like he really misjudged the distance to Snow's expansion. Or just illegal betting things... | ||
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Is there any hope for a real BW European revival with Remastered in mind? I'm not sure if i'm just totally out of the loop.. wish people would at least get back into UMS/BGH as a way to get into 1v1 in the long run. I supported BW through the whole time SC2 has appeared and will continue to do so, i genuinely believe BW will outlast and prove to be the superior game as long as we can pass on our knowledge and passion in a genuine (not fake MLG) way. Also - really sad for Mini and that mistake. Sad way to lose. | ||
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snow on the other hand played it well by using the low hp shuttle as a fake harass. | ||
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You're joking, right? | ||
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On May 11 2018 21:46 infinity2k17 wrote: Just want to add on my love for the game here, some of these BW games leading up to the final have been awesome... the back and forth midgame that makes BW so great has really shined in these games. Not so sure about the maps but I really hope ASL6 can continue the trend. Is there any hope for a real BW European revival with Remastered in mind? I'm not sure if i'm just totally out of the loop.. wish people would at least get back into UMS/BGH as a way to get into 1v1 in the long run. I supported BW through the whole time SC2 has appeared and will continue to do so, i genuinely believe BW will outlast and prove to be the superior game as long as we can pass on our knowledge and passion in a genuine (not fake MLG) way. Also - really sad for Mini and that mistake. Sad way to lose. BW is not truly resurrecting imo, its just a temporary thing, coz there are no new people coming and when these guys move on, the pro scene will die completely | ||
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I'm pretty sure he was making a sarcastic comment aimed at all those posters who call matchfixing/betting on every loss (see other LR threads for info). | ||
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On May 12 2018 02:33 BigFan wrote: I'm pretty sure he was making a sarcastic comment aimed at all those posters who call matchfixing/betting on every loss (see other LR threads for info). That's what I thought and meant, but you know, Poe's law. And I get badly triggered by random matchfixing accusations. | ||
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On May 13 2018 15:37 orvinreyes wrote: Looking forward to hero vs Mini thread! When it is made 5 minutes before. On that note, it will be Bo5, not that Bo3 bullshit right? | ||
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Mini killing his own pylon during the cannonrush to avoid the super-range sunken being able to kill his cannon was pretty genius. | ||
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On May 13 2018 19:19 r.Evo wrote: Thread for Mini vs Hero pretty please? :3 Mini killing his own pylon during the cannonrush to avoid the super-range sunken being able to kill his cannon was pretty genius. I don't understand how that works. | ||
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On May 13 2018 19:41 BigFan wrote: Let's go hero! back to the practice? | ||
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On May 24 2018 10:36 funnybananaman wrote: Anyone have snow vs mini link to vods? can't find in the afreeca/youtube for some reason but want to watch the artosis and tasteless version of set. https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=14m30s&v=dCn9WWIk4so | ||
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