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On October 31 2017 20:10 TT1 wrote:What did FlaSh do any differently than Bisu? They both sat and macro'd, FlaSh macro'd off of 3 bases and won and Bisu macro'd off of 6 bases and loss (because Bisu took a pretty big early game/eco lead). What did FlaSh do any better than Bisu that warranted him to win that game?
Bisu didnt trade well, and had no gates at 11 to outpump flash if/when he gets out of base.
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stasis is overrated.. why not recall atop Flash's army?
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On October 31 2017 20:14 Levque wrote:
its pretty gross how little room for error there is for the other races vs terran.
Every race has little room for error against each other. You must be new to starcraft, welcome.
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On October 31 2017 20:13 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:On October 31 2017 20:09 BigFan wrote:
my stream froze right as Bisu was moving into Flash's army at the natural. Can someone pleaseeee tell me what the hell happened? Bisu had 6 bases mining, he had a ton of gates and was banking then I get the stream and Bisu is close to Flash's supply, flash banking now and Bisu is getting pushed back to his nat.................. Basically Bisu threw down 2 stasis in the front, so his army couldn't reach any of the sieged tanks behind. lol my god... when will pros stop doing this. It seems pretty obvious to stasis the back tanks so that your units can actually attack :/
is not obvious,u should watch the game,i never seen this in my life,it was basically a big big terran army that blocked the fucking bridge xDD
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On October 31 2017 20:15 CakeSauc3 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 20:14 Levque wrote:
its pretty gross how little room for error there is for the other races vs terran. Every race has little room for error against each other. You must be new to starcraft, welcome.
Wrong
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So Crossing Field where Bisu would have to... go Carriers?
I am not sure how this won't be a 0-3.
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On October 31 2017 20:14 Breach_hu wrote:
Lets hope a redeeming win on Crossing Field, Go Bisu!
Bisu lost a macro game playing to his strength when he had a big lead, don't think he's looking forward to microing carriers vs FlaSh.. 
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On October 31 2017 20:10 TT1 wrote:What did FlaSh do any differently than Bisu? They both sat and macro'd, FlaSh macro'd off of 3 bases and won and Bisu macro'd off of 6 bases and loss (because Bisu took a pretty big early game/eco lead). What did FlaSh do any better than Bisu that warranted him to win that game?
What do you mean? He survived to the mid/lategame without taking fatal damage and falling light years behind. That's gotta count for something 
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i think this will be 3-0 flash has been tvping on this map a lot xD
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On October 31 2017 20:14 Levque wrote:
its pretty gross how little room for error there is for the other races vs terran.
last I heard hold lurkers (ZERG) and Dts/stasis/recall/storm can be pretty devastating, too and change the outcome of a game in an instant
dont make this topic into a race balance discussion T_T
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On October 31 2017 20:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 20:13 BigFan wrote:On October 31 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:On October 31 2017 20:09 BigFan wrote:
my stream froze right as Bisu was moving into Flash's army at the natural. Can someone pleaseeee tell me what the hell happened? Bisu had 6 bases mining, he had a ton of gates and was banking then I get the stream and Bisu is close to Flash's supply, flash banking now and Bisu is getting pushed back to his nat.................. Basically Bisu threw down 2 stasis in the front, so his army couldn't reach any of the sieged tanks behind. lol my god... when will pros stop doing this. It seems pretty obvious to stasis the back tanks so that your units can actually attack :/ is not obvious,u should watch the game,i never seen this in my life,it was basically a big big terran army that blocked the fucking bridge xDD
Bisu should learn how to pinch the loaf
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On October 31 2017 20:15 StarscreamG1 wrote:
is this bo5 or bo7?
Bo5
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On October 31 2017 20:15 _Animus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 20:10 TT1 wrote:On October 31 2017 20:09 njoe wrote:Ah, too passive and reactive, Bisu... What did FlaSh do any differently than Bisu? They both sat and macro'd, FlaSh macro'd off of 3 bases and won and Bisu macro'd off of 6 bases and loss (because Bisu took a pretty big early game/eco lead). What did FlaSh do any better than Bisu that warranted him to win that game? Bisu didnt trade well, and had no gates at 11 to outpump flash if/when he gets out of base.
u dont waste stasis like that and expect to hold the terran 200/200,u cant fight ground vs ground like that,the only option is to have stasis or storms,
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Bisu's whole protoss-versus-terran philosophy seems to be play flawlessly in order to reach a point where he can attack move from multiple bases to victory. No matter how large his lead, if Bisu cannot find a way to close out the game without recalling and attack moving his way to victory, he seems to be lost for direction.
It's a pattern that makes me frustrated beyond words for literally a decade. It's called large scale battles versus the terran army, and it takes more skill to master it than simply attack moving whilst spamming units from a dozen gateways.
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I bet bisu go carriers, and flash will know it before hand.
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On October 31 2017 20:15 _Animus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 20:10 TT1 wrote:On October 31 2017 20:09 njoe wrote:Ah, too passive and reactive, Bisu... What did FlaSh do any differently than Bisu? They both sat and macro'd, FlaSh macro'd off of 3 bases and won and Bisu macro'd off of 6 bases and loss (because Bisu took a pretty big early game/eco lead). What did FlaSh do any better than Bisu that warranted him to win that game? Bisu didnt trade well, and had no gates at 11 to outpump flash if/when he gets out of base.
Bisu had like 7+ gates at 11, making units isnt as good on that base (when T is marching with a 200/200 army towards your base) because T can just cut reinforcements with mines, you just keep bleeding units.
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On October 31 2017 20:13 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:On October 31 2017 20:09 BigFan wrote:
my stream froze right as Bisu was moving into Flash's army at the natural. Can someone pleaseeee tell me what the hell happened? Bisu had 6 bases mining, he had a ton of gates and was banking then I get the stream and Bisu is close to Flash's supply, flash banking now and Bisu is getting pushed back to his nat.................. Basically Bisu threw down 2 stasis in the front, so his army couldn't reach any of the sieged tanks behind. lol my god... when will pros stop doing this. It seems pretty obvious to stasis the back tanks so that your units can actually attack :/
I think it's somewhat understandable in that situation, considering he is playing under a lot of pressure and caught Flash's vessels off guard so he tried to place the stasis as quick as possible before the EMPs would deny him. It's a split second decision under enormous pressure. Still a bad move but somewhat understandable...
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What the hell was that Ebay block? I never seen that on BW, I only saw it on SC2.
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