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CognacLover
Profile Joined January 2016
Poland66 Posts
October 29 2017 13:03 GMT
#201
On October 29 2017 21:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i just dont understand this false believe that Larva will trash flash in a finals and everyone is hating hero ,liek what the hell ? this guy is a regular player from proleague,had results in OSL and won the Sonic starleague vs Bisu.im pretty sure he will prepare zvt and do a good job.and will not fall by nerves.


It's not about nerves or something. Hero doesn't have capability to keep up with Flash. Yes, he won't die instantly, he will get to mid game, get his swarm and there Flash will start rolling him up with mech, his macro play isn't good unlike Larvas, where Larva can keep up with macro god up to 40 min. Hero needs to finish him fastly, put godlike muta and ling micro, contain him. But from history you know none of cheesy strats worked against Flash, even Shine's mastermind tactics which led him finals wasn't barely enough to win a single game. Only way to win is to go toe to toe with Flash and one of the zergs who is capable to do that is Larva.
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Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 13:06:48
October 29 2017 13:04 GMT
#202
I am not saying that Larva would trash Flash and I am not saying that hero is weak. But the fact that hero was better player few years ago, doesn't mean he is better now. Moreover Larva is consistently playing against Flash on stream. He is losing more than winning, but he definitely has a good shot at beating Flash JUDGING FROM GAMES. Of course if you look at pure numbers and nothing else, then yes Flash 3:0 Larva. But if you just spend some time to watch some of his stream, and compare his gameplay to hero's gameplay then you must be ignorant to say that hero>larva in ZvT.

What is more, your point about Larva having weak winrate against Flash is stupid. At least he practices against him a lot and some of the games are really top top level ZvT. How many games hero played vs Flash? And how many of those he won (besides 2016 game on la mancha)?

Lastly I would like to point out that I am not hating on hero. He won in fair games so he deserves to be where he is. But I just cannot agree with statement that his ZvT is on Larva or Soulkey level.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
October 29 2017 13:04 GMT
#203
time for bisu to upset flash
then we can have the best of both worlds (sort of)
bisu vs hero
larva vs flash
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
October 29 2017 13:31 GMT
#204
On October 29 2017 22:04 phosphorylation wrote:
time for bisu to upset flash
then we can have the best of both worlds (sort of)
bisu vs hero
larva vs flash

I can live with this
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 29 2017 13:47 GMT
#205
On October 29 2017 22:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 22:04 phosphorylation wrote:
time for bisu to upset flash
then we can have the best of both worlds (sort of)
bisu vs hero
larva vs flash

I can live with this


Wait.... there's a third place match??? I had no idea, if that's true, then FUCK YEAH, please bisu win!!! :p
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
October 29 2017 14:10 GMT
#206
:O No no no no no! Y larva y!!! I didn't borther to watch the games because I assumed Larva's definitely gonna take the win T.T
Oppa feeding style
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia424 Posts
October 29 2017 14:10 GMT
#207
Normally I would prefer Flash to finally lose, and Bisu can certainly beat him, but now I wouldn't mind another stomp in the finals just so that it points out again how waaaay to volatile ZvZ is (JD notwithstanding), not to mention underwhelming with only three units used, result being sporadic TvZ massacres.
j.r.r.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
October 29 2017 14:12 GMT
#208
VODs of today's matches (with spoilers and links) are available in the Small Vod Thread.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 29 2017 14:13 GMT
#209
On October 29 2017 23:12 Burned Toast wrote:
VODs of today's matches (with spoilers and links) are available in the Small Vod Thread.

thx m8
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
October 29 2017 14:21 GMT
#210
Perhaps hero would have better chances against Bisu if Bisu were to advance to the finals? I always see larva continuously losses to Bisu on stream. Lol

We never know what's gonna happen between Flash n Bisu.....
Oppa feeding style
wander
Profile Joined October 2008
Japan45 Posts
October 29 2017 14:34 GMT
#211
Great solo-cast Rapid!
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2017 14:59 GMT
#212
This is the best thing to happen if you are Bisu and a Bisu fan.

Bisu destroys Flash, and rolls herO in the finals!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2017 15:00 GMT
#213
Rapid solo cast is awesome too!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
October 29 2017 15:01 GMT
#214
I am with eonzerg on this one, and I really enjoy watching larva as well.

But doesn't he has something like a ~30% winrate vs flash? And we all know that a 70% winrate is bonjwa lvl dominating in BW.
So I don't know where the opinion comes from that larva is this super hero zerg that is on par with flash, while hero will get absolutely crushed. They are both huge underdogs, with one of them having zero big stage experience. (hint: it's not hero)
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 29 2017 15:56 GMT
#215
Damn it ZvZ killing our chances to watch a Larva vs Flash or Bisu. FUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 16:03:18
October 29 2017 16:02 GMT
#216
Hahaha, ok, now the finals are just not worth watching since it will be another 3:0 Flash/Bisu roflsomping.
Seriously, hero wtf. Nobody wants you here.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
October 29 2017 16:04 GMT
#217
So, does anybody else still think that ZvZ is fun?
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3440 Posts
October 29 2017 16:04 GMT
#218
On October 30 2017 00:56 Disregard wrote:
Damn it ZvZ killing our chances to watch a Larva vs Flash or Bisu. FUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!


Well there is the 3rd place match
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 16:05:38
October 29 2017 16:05 GMT
#219
Honestly im not even going to watch the finals now, heros zvp and zvt are in terrible shape, and his zvt was never good. The finales are going to be as one sided as bisu vs killer.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
October 29 2017 16:07 GMT
#220
Dam Larva vs Flash would have been awesome but oh well you don't always get what you want.
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