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On October 29 2017 21:05 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals. who's leaving besides outscar? from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS" I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case. then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans. I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well. well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150 Did he? Smashed flash? I mean, if you are right, that's straight up awesome. I didn't know and I watch their streams daily (not all of them at the same time, obviously)
man at some point even FlaSh said hero was the best zerg...
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On October 29 2017 21:04 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 20:59 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:59 TRAP[yoo] wrote:i would watch flash crush hero live if i had the chance to  same Your name is literally "FlashFTW", of course you would.
i would indeed, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I would also watch any other finals live, even if it was Ample vs Miso in the finals, if I was given the opportunity. Considering that I'm in school and don't have the time to go to korea, I can't do that. If FlaSh were to lose to Bisu in the semis on Tuesday, you're damn right I'm still going to the finals live if I could.
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eon is exaggerating. Larva is definitely a much stronger player in ZvT compared to hero.
This is pretty reminiscent of Last's run through SSL10 playing mostly TvT until he reached the finals against sSak and lost 3-2 lol.
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On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals. who's leaving besides outscar? from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS" I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case. then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans. I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well. well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150
Hero was trash since that SSL. He was losing to Flash even when he was smurfing and practicing with TimeNa account. If it'll be bo9 he will get 5 consecutive losses.
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On October 29 2017 21:07 BigFan wrote:
eon is exaggerating. Larva is definitely a much stronger player in ZvT compared to hero.
This is pretty reminiscent of Last's run through SSL10 playing mostly TvT until he reached the finals against sSak and lost 3-2 lol. What part im exaggerating ?? cuz i remember pretty clear flash said it.i remember hero destroyed flash in that map La Mancha.and that day he said that about him
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On October 29 2017 21:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:05 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals. who's leaving besides outscar? from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS" I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case. then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans. I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well. well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150 Did he? Smashed flash? I mean, if you are right, that's straight up awesome. I didn't know and I watch their streams daily (not all of them at the same time, obviously) man at some point even FlaSh said hero was the best zerg...
When was that? I saw them play each other like a week ago but as I remember, I think flash won most of the games. But I saw hero watching replays of flash, so that was a nice touch. Btw, since you are one of the best foreign zerg, do you give hero a chance vs flash then? Please give me some hope so I do end up going to the finals lol.
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On October 29 2017 21:07 BigFan wrote:
eon is exaggerating. Larva is definitely a much stronger player in ZvT compared to hero.
This is pretty reminiscent of Last's run through SSL10 playing mostly TvT until he reached the finals against sSak and lost 3-2 lol.
kind of funny ssak wins pretty often larva eh ??
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On October 29 2017 21:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:05 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals. who's leaving besides outscar? from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS" I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case. then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans. I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well. well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150 Did he? Smashed flash? I mean, if you are right, that's straight up awesome. I didn't know and I watch their streams daily (not all of them at the same time, obviously) man at some point even FlaSh said hero was the best zerg...
well, this was probably back in 2015 when hero was messing people up. though flash wasn't back yet though... hmmm... hero was never good between 2016-early 2017. im curious when he said that.
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On October 29 2017 21:10 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:05 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals. who's leaving besides outscar? from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS" I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case. then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans. I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well. well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150 Did he? Smashed flash? I mean, if you are right, that's straight up awesome. I didn't know and I watch their streams daily (not all of them at the same time, obviously) man at some point even FlaSh said hero was the best zerg... When was that? I saw them play each other like a week ago but as I remember, I think flash won most of the games. But I was hero watching replays of flash, so that was a nice touch. Btw, since you are one of the best foreign zerg, do you give hero a chance vs flash then? Please give me some hope so I do end up going to the finals lol.
hero has the same chances larva had,with the only difference that one has experience playing in big stages.
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Japan11286 Posts
Lol, FlashFTW's favorites will both be in the finals at this rate.
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On October 29 2017 21:12 c3rberUs wrote:
Lol, FlashFTW's favorites will both be in the finals at this rate.
I, once again, see nothing wrong with this. :D though I would have preferred FlaSh v Larva.
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On October 29 2017 21:11 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:05 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals. who's leaving besides outscar? from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS" I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case. then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans. I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well. well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150 Did he? Smashed flash? I mean, if you are right, that's straight up awesome. I didn't know and I watch their streams daily (not all of them at the same time, obviously) man at some point even FlaSh said hero was the best zerg... well, this was probably back in 2015 when hero was messing people up. though flash wasn't back yet though... hmmm... hero was never good between 2016-early 2017. im curious when he said that.
if we wanna talk about good then talk about effort,proly the best player in every period that just trashed his tournaments runs with bo1
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Of course I'm going to watch, and probably still enjoy hell the hell out of this finals. But you can't stop me from being a bit disappointed that hero got through to the finals almost entirely playing his best matchup. That doesn't feel like a thorough test of his skills, even if he had to work extremely hard to get it. This has nothing to do with not being a "proper fan" of Brood War, it's to do with wanting the most exciting and close games possible because they're simply more enjoyable, regardless of who's playing.
Tournaments are always going to have upsets and lucky streaks, You need the random element. If it was a perfect 1:1 translation of player skill to finishing placement, it would never be fun to watch, and everybody would always know the victor. But that doesn't mean it can't feel a little unfair sometimes.
I'm really hoping that Hero can take a few games off Flash/Bisu. Not as hopeful as I would be were SK/Larva in his place, but I want a great finals and I hope he can deliver them.
hero hwaiting!
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On October 29 2017 21:07 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:04 Essbee wrote:On October 29 2017 20:59 FlaShFTW wrote:On October 29 2017 20:59 TRAP[yoo] wrote:i would watch flash crush hero live if i had the chance to same Your name is literally "FlashFTW", of course you would. i would indeed, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I would also watch any other finals live, even if it was Ample vs Miso in the finals, if I was given the opportunity. Considering that I'm in school and don't have the time to go to korea, I can't do that. If FlaSh were to lose to Bisu in the semis on Tuesday, you're damn right I'm still going to the finals live if I could.
Yeah I understand, I was saying the same thing before I got to see a game live. You may not know this, but I was going to live games since the sonic starleague days, I was the only foreigner going there at that time, literally the only foreigner crazy enough to be in korea for bw when bw was almost dead lol, and since it was my first time, I enjoyed it a lot. The magic kind of disappeared after a few years, so that's why I always judge if I should go or not. It's pretty sad I know, I wish I wouldn't judge and just go, but me having to skip some work and take the subway for hours just to see a disappointing finals just isn't worth it :/
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On October 29 2017 21:10 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:07 BigFan wrote:
eon is exaggerating. Larva is definitely a much stronger player in ZvT compared to hero.
This is pretty reminiscent of Last's run through SSL10 playing mostly TvT until he reached the finals against sSak and lost 3-2 lol. What part im exaggerating ?? cuz i remember pretty clear flash said it.i remember hero destroyed flash in that map La Mancha.and that day he said that about him
should be pretty obvious: "vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150"
It's well known that Larva is one of the better performing zergs against Flash atm. Also, not sure why you bring SSL. I mean, not a single point was disputing the potential for good final games if Bisu advances but against Flash of all people? Maybe if he practices and preps hard, hero can win some games but winning the whole series will be difficult.
On October 29 2017 21:10 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:07 BigFan wrote:
eon is exaggerating. Larva is definitely a much stronger player in ZvT compared to hero.
This is pretty reminiscent of Last's run through SSL10 playing mostly TvT until he reached the finals against sSak and lost 3-2 lol. kind of funny ssak wins pretty often larva eh ??
so, losing to sSak who just beat Last, Jaedong etc... last ASL convincingly and who seems to have a high potential if he legit practices is a blemish on Larva's record? I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make here.
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post scores of larva vs flash
about ssak u tell me,it looks to me u made his ssl run less impresive no?
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On October 29 2017 21:18 BigFan wrote:
so, losing to sSak who just beat Last, Jaedong etc... last ASL convincingly and who seems to have a high potential if he legit practices is a blemish on Larva's record? I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make here.
He just dislikes Larva or something and brings some 2016 game of hero vs flash on La Mancha, which, in his opinion is more valuable resource then countless of recent games Larva palyed against flash. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
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On October 29 2017 21:33 Netto. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2017 21:18 BigFan wrote:
so, losing to sSak who just beat Last, Jaedong etc... last ASL convincingly and who seems to have a high potential if he legit practices is a blemish on Larva's record? I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make here. He just dislikes Larva or something and brings some 2016 game of hero vs flash on La Mancha, which, in his opinion is more valuable resource then countless of recent games Larva palyed against flash. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
i actually like larva,we are Friends on Skype :/
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i just dont understand this false believe that Larva will trash flash in a finals and everyone is hating hero ,liek what the hell ? this guy is a regular player from proleague,had results in OSL and won the Sonic starleague vs Bisu.im pretty sure he will prepare zvt and do a good job.and will not fall by nerves.
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