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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13008 Posts
October 29 2017 11:49 GMT
#161
It's fine to argue both sides. Hero has done great beating the top zergs to make it this far.

I actually think it'll be very close if he's playing Bisu as he's always been a top ZvP player. But if it's vs Flash he's going to get torched. But in all honesty there's maybe 3 guys youd give a realistic chance of beating flash in a bo5 and that's Bisu, SK and effort.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
October 29 2017 11:50 GMT
#162
Hero is certainly the underdog in the finals, but maybe he can make something happen. There's a lot on the line and some psyhological pressure which makes some players stronger. I hope this is the case with Hero!
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Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 11:51:00
October 29 2017 11:50 GMT
#163
Well I'm sure hero is going to hear how undeserving he is to be in the finals so hopefully he uses it as motivation and trains hard to prove the doubters wrong.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 29 2017 11:50 GMT
#164
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?
Eleonora
Profile Joined April 2017
29 Posts
October 29 2017 11:51 GMT
#165
On October 29 2017 20:40 KobraKay wrote:
That has always happened through history of BW and people were not so fast to jump on the player in question. From time to time people get to do this. The draw is not Heroe's fault, don't hate him.


I agree hate isn't justified, although i haven't seen much here anyway. It's just very disappointing for plenty of reasons. Larva has shown a tremendous form recently on stream, and has a lot more charisma and character than herO who appears pretty bland in comparison.
I'd be happy for him in about every other instance (with the exception of Bisu), but because of his victory we won't get to see the conclusion of a slightly interesting rivalry between Flash and Larva (started on stream but also continued during the Ro16 draft, and Flash had stated that he thought Larva was the real dark horse in ASL 4). Could have been the pinacle of PvZ too if Bisu goes on to win Tuesday (and a fantastic follow-up considering what happened between Larva and Rain).

I usually can't stand people who just pretend "tournament is done before it's played because X or Y got eliminated and now Flash has won etc", but in this case i'm quite afraid to see a pretty one-sided final.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
October 29 2017 11:52 GMT
#166
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 11:55:54
October 29 2017 11:54 GMT
#167
On October 29 2017 20:42 _Animus_ wrote:
The very first korean Remastered tournament is surely the tournament of upsets.
Best get out super early, then Stork showing bad play, Jaedong got eliminated, Soulkey the main pretendent for dethroning Flash choked and throw 2 games vs Hero also eliminated, Rain dissapointed hard, now the last hope for good finals is gone with Larva.

Those might be upsets for the fans of the players that you listed, but not upsets in the traditional sense where better player loses;)

I'm happy for hero, he has shown strenght in ZvZ this season. If Bisu manages to beat Flash, the grand finals have potential to be quite exciting as hero is ZvP specialist. But if Flash goes to the finals, then I will be sad that Larva didn't make it since Flash would propably just make the series one sided. I hope hero will prove me wrong tho.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 11:55:09
October 29 2017 11:54 GMT
#168
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.
Dantak
Profile Joined January 2006
Czech Republic648 Posts
October 29 2017 11:55 GMT
#169
Who has more chances against Flash? herO or Larva? In other words: are we glad about the results for the sake of interesting finals?
"Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery." - f33red k0r34n z3rg
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
October 29 2017 11:56 GMT
#170
On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.

then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
October 29 2017 11:58 GMT
#171
On October 29 2017 20:55 Dantak wrote:
Who has more chances against Flash? herO or Larva? In other words: are we glad about the results for the sake of interesting finals?

Psst, Flash is not in the finals yet. He still needs to get trought his biggest threat in the tournament!

We must all cheer for Bisu for the sake of interesting finals;)
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 29 2017 11:59 GMT
#172
i would watch flash crush hero live if i had the chance to
FTD
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
October 29 2017 11:59 GMT
#173
On October 29 2017 20:59 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
i would watch flash crush hero live if i had the chance to

same
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13008 Posts
October 29 2017 11:59 GMT
#174
People are just disappointed their favourites aren't in the final. I would've preferred a SK v Flash/Bisu final as they're the best players going around right now. And that's no knock against hero. But SK couldn't get the job done so what can you do?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 29 2017 12:02 GMT
#175
On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.

then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans.


I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
October 29 2017 12:03 GMT
#176
On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.

then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans.


I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well.

i guess all I can say is, you better hope the games are bad otherwise you'll be kicking yourself for not going in person.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6597 Posts
October 29 2017 12:04 GMT
#177
On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.

then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans.


I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well.

well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 29 2017 12:04 GMT
#178
On October 29 2017 20:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:59 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
i would watch flash crush hero live if i had the chance to

same


Your name is literally "FlashFTW", of course you would.
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
October 29 2017 12:04 GMT
#179
On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.


I'd still go just to see Flash play in person...how many foreigners can say they got to do that?
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 29 2017 12:05 GMT
#180
On October 29 2017 21:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 21:02 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:54 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:50 Essbee wrote:
On October 29 2017 20:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
im glad we can finally see the fans who are the true brood war fans who will stick around regardless and not some fake fairweathere fans who are only here for games they think will be good and leave when they dont like results. dont let the door hit you on the way out. the rest of us will be watching a very entertaining semifinals and finals.


who's leaving besides outscar?

from what it sounds like, quite a few people in this forum wont be watching the finals because "MUH BORING FINALS"


I'll defintely watch, not even the slightest doubt in my mind. If it's hero vs flash I just won't waste my time taking the subway all the way across seoul to end up seeing flash destroy another zerg 3-0. I'll just stay home in that case.

then that's your prerogative. I'm ok with people not wanting to watch a finals if they dont want to. do whatever you want. im just calling them out for being fair-weather fans.


I'm a huge bw fan, that's why I'm here in the first place, I'll never stop watching bw. I care about great games, not the players themselves. I don't believe in hero bringing great games, at all. I am just hoping I am totally wrong and hero prepares very well.

well idk what u were watching then,cuz hero won 1 SSL and loss other 2-3 to Bisu,and smashed flash in sponsored matches ... he just doesnt play 100000 games vs flash like larva does where he wins 23 from 150


Did he? Smashed flash? I mean, if you are right, that's straight up awesome. I didn't know and I watch their streams daily (not all of them at the same time, obviously)
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