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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
December 04 2017 11:53 GMT
#501
sorry for off-topic, but is there anywhere an official bracket for this event? too see results?
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s_k_911
Profile Joined August 2008
China362 Posts
December 04 2017 12:29 GMT
#502
this is sad for zotac invite an ugly person to this event.
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Sea[SR]
Profile Joined May 2011
United States29 Posts
December 04 2017 12:42 GMT
#503
Larva just showed what he thinks about foreigners starcraft skill.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
December 04 2017 13:55 GMT
#504
On December 04 2017 21:42 Sea[SR] wrote:
Larva just showed what he thinks about foreigners starcraft skill.


He was being a showman in a showmatch series.

This entire thing is being blown way out of proportion.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6814 Posts
December 04 2017 13:57 GMT
#505
On December 04 2017 22:55 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 21:42 Sea[SR] wrote:
Larva just showed what he thinks about foreigners starcraft skill.


He was being a showman in a showmatch series.

This entire thing is being blown way out of proportion.

why do you complain about the cast then ?
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
December 04 2017 14:03 GMT
#506
With retrospection it’s more clear that Larva was doing it to put on a show for the viewers. I’m sure he didn’t do it to insult legend nor do I think it was anything more than just him being a showman. I will say it sucks that legend had to be the butt if it and I feel a bit sorry for him but Larva surely didn’t mean it maliciously. All in all a really fun tournament. I could listen to those casters riff and talk about the old days for hours on end. The nostalgia is overwhelming lol. GG
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
December 04 2017 14:07 GMT
#507
On December 04 2017 22:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 22:55 Qikz wrote:
On December 04 2017 21:42 Sea[SR] wrote:
Larva just showed what he thinks about foreigners starcraft skill.


He was being a showman in a showmatch series.

This entire thing is being blown way out of proportion.

why do you complain about the cast then ?


I wasn't complaining about the cast. I merely said it's not entirely to my liking as on the first day they spoke about the game very little. My personal preference for the event would've been different, but I understand why they did what they did. I enjoyed it regardless, I just wish they'd have spoken about the game more, I'd love to have heard their insight about things more often!
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MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
December 04 2017 14:12 GMT
#508
On December 04 2017 23:07 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 22:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On December 04 2017 22:55 Qikz wrote:
On December 04 2017 21:42 Sea[SR] wrote:
Larva just showed what he thinks about foreigners starcraft skill.


He was being a showman in a showmatch series.

This entire thing is being blown way out of proportion.

why do you complain about the cast then ?


I wasn't complaining about the cast. I merely said it's not entirely to my liking as on the first day they spoke about the game very little. My personal preference for the event would've been different, but I understand why they did what they did. I enjoyed it regardless, I just wish they'd have spoken about the game more, I'd love to have heard their insight about things more often!

Yeah I’m kinda torn lol. I love deep analysis of BW but by god I do enjoy the group of them just riffing. I could listen to their nostalgia talk for hours lol.
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 14:27:36
December 04 2017 14:25 GMT
#509
ZOTAC China just released a statement on its official Weibo (in Chinese)
Apparently ZOTAC is not informed before hand by Larva with his actions and has not given him their approval. ZOTAC apologize to Luo Xian (Legend) and would ban Larva from any more ZOTAC event.
Sea[SR]
Profile Joined May 2011
United States29 Posts
December 04 2017 14:33 GMT
#510
On December 04 2017 23:25 Yiome wrote:
ZOTAC China just released a statement on its official Weibo (in Chinese)
Apparently ZOTAC is not informed before hand by Larva with his actions and has not given him their approval. ZOTAC apologize to Luo Xian (Legend) and would ban Larva from any more ZOTAC event.

great news!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 14:51 GMT
#511
On December 04 2017 23:33 Sea[SR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 23:25 Yiome wrote:
ZOTAC China just released a statement on its official Weibo (in Chinese)
Apparently ZOTAC is not informed before hand by Larva with his actions and has not given him their approval. ZOTAC apologize to Luo Xian (Legend) and would ban Larva from any more ZOTAC event.

great news!

I don't know about great news, but it's a good response to the situation.
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
December 04 2017 14:56 GMT
#512
On December 04 2017 23:51 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 23:33 Sea[SR] wrote:
On December 04 2017 23:25 Yiome wrote:
ZOTAC China just released a statement on its official Weibo (in Chinese)
Apparently ZOTAC is not informed before hand by Larva with his actions and has not given him their approval. ZOTAC apologize to Luo Xian (Legend) and would ban Larva from any more ZOTAC event.

great news!

I don't know about great news, but it's a good response to the situation.

The only possible response before things getting even more out of hand. Good damage control, if it is better if nothing like this happened in the first place.
But who knows, if not for this probably there won't be much media attention to a bw tourney in the first place. So a swift response might actually earn ZOTAC some PR points? lol
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
December 04 2017 14:58 GMT
#513
everything was good, except commentary during games because they were more about like telling jokes to each other, than actually caring about the games being played, i watched JimRising's stream instead during the games. what i really liked were the interviews, and the silly games between each series
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 15:35:42
December 04 2017 15:14 GMT
#514
On December 04 2017 23:58 MymSlorm wrote:
everything was good, except commentary during games because they were more about like telling jokes to each other, than actually caring about the games being played, i watched JimRising's stream instead during the games. what i really liked were the interviews, and the silly games between each series


I'm pretty sure that was the style of cast they were aiming for tho. Zotac probably wanted them to replicate the style of casting that was done during the launch event (laid back, friends joking around with each other etc.) seeing as it was a huge success.

The only reason Zotac NA happened is because the organizers loved the launch event. Big name personalities/casters draw the viewers and most people love watching casual/laid back casts. The odds of us having a big BW tourney without casters like Artosis/Day9/iNcontroL/Tasteless is very unlikely. Organizers won't invest money into a game if there's no big draw (unless Blizzard steps in and starts pumping money into the scene).
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 04 2017 15:17 GMT
#515
On December 05 2017 00:14 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 23:58 MymSlorm wrote:
everything was good, except commentary during games because they were more about like telling jokes to each other, than actually caring about the games being played, i watched JimRising's stream instead during the games. what i really liked were the interviews, and the silly games between each series


I'm pretty sure that was the style of cast they were aiming for tho. Zotac probably wanted them to replicate the style of casting that was done during the launch event (laid back, friends joking around with each other etc.) seeing as it was a huge success.

Yeah, I think the cast was great (within the style they were aiming for).

Personally, I would have preferred a different style, but many others preferred this style.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
December 04 2017 15:48 GMT
#516
I think the nuke was fine, the other stuff was in bad taste imo.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1599 Posts
December 04 2017 15:50 GMT
#517
I guess they had to improvise as not all the casters are up to date with the brood war scene. At least Day9 and Artosis were trying to talk about the games being played. Even though I was watching for the games and not the comedy, I thought it was a great cast overall.
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
December 04 2017 15:57 GMT
#518
On December 04 2017 17:42 iNcontroL wrote:
I know it's only a few saying this but wtf.. I wasn't "pissed" I was doing my usual straight face dry humor lol.
I asked him about his thigh for fuck sakes. How can people read that as anger?

I just pulled a 9 hour day after a 13 hour day. Some of you all really want drama.. get outside or something. We were all fine there.

i re-watched the games, and it wasn't just your face and mood after the game and during the interview, but the way you spoke after the leg incident during game 3, it was like when people make jokes about your dog not moving. Like an angry person who don't want to show he's pissed off
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 04 2017 16:01 GMT
#519
I was looking at your words and how you type and if you look closely it's like an idiot trying to find drama / meaning in something when it's explained by that person that they weren't mad ...
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
December 04 2017 16:04 GMT
#520
On December 05 2017 00:57 MymSlorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2017 17:42 iNcontroL wrote:
I know it's only a few saying this but wtf.. I wasn't "pissed" I was doing my usual straight face dry humor lol.
I asked him about his thigh for fuck sakes. How can people read that as anger?

I just pulled a 9 hour day after a 13 hour day. Some of you all really want drama.. get outside or something. We were all fine there.

i re-watched the games, and it wasn't just your face and mood after the game and during the interview, but the way you spoke after the leg incident during game 3, it was like when people make jokes about your dog not moving. Like an angry person who don't want to show he's pissed off

I feel like you have never watched an Incontrol cast or hell even the rest of the event.
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