On December 07 2017 08:09 Demurity wrote: Man you guys jumped on the hatewagon quickly. To clarify, I was not implying the logic of: Draco 1-2 Larva, and Bonyth > Draco, therefore Bonyth would 2-1 Larva.
Considering all foreigners, I believe Bonyth is definitively in the top 3, or even reduce it to top 5 for the sake of argument. Given this, and the fact that there are few foreigners who have ever beaten, hell, even played against pro players, then this is a completely valid opinion. Bonyth actually has beaten very good players. It doesn't make me delusional lol. Now, on the flipside, Larva is definitely one of the best players currently. I believe at that high level, there is a sliver of chance that Bonyth could win in a BO3, with a greater chance of success than all other foreigners.
I mean, Larva has the best ZvP in the world and Bonyth was eliminated from the last major tour he participated in, going 0-4 in PvZ or something like that.
Look, put it this way: Bonyth has beaten several legit top 20 pros. A bum sc player has no chance of beating them. Even showing historically that Bonyth has done it is sufficient to say he has a greater chance of winning than 99.9% of other foreigners.
Alternatively, can you list players who you believe has a better chance of Bonyth? Possibly other high level foreigners like Sziky, Trutacz, Eonzerg, Ret? I do not believe it is out of the question to think that any of these active players have a decent shot of winning a game against Larva. I just do not like the notion of, "Draco beat Larva once, man, I don't think another foreigner would have done any better than he did".
On December 07 2017 08:09 Demurity wrote: Man you guys jumped on the hatewagon quickly. To clarify, I was not implying the logic of: Draco 1-2 Larva, and Bonyth > Draco, therefore Bonyth would 2-1 Larva.
Considering all foreigners, I believe Bonyth is definitively in the top 3, or even reduce it to top 5 for the sake of argument. Given this, and the fact that there are few foreigners who have ever beaten, hell, even played against pro players, then this is a completely valid opinion. Bonyth actually has beaten very good players. It doesn't make me delusional lol. Now, on the flipside, Larva is definitely one of the best players currently. I believe at that high level, there is a sliver of chance that Bonyth could win in a BO3, with a greater chance of success than all other foreigners.
I mean, Larva has the best ZvP in the world and Bonyth was eliminated from the last major tour he participated in, going 0-4 in PvZ or something like that.
Look, put it this way: Bonyth has beaten several legit top 20 pros. A bum sc player has no chance of beating them. Even showing historically that Bonyth has done it is sufficient to say he has a greater chance of winning than 99.9% of other foreigners.
Alternatively, can you list players who you believe has a better chance of Bonyth? Possibly other high level foreigners like Sziky, Trutacz, Eonzerg, Ret? I do not believe it is out of the question to think that any of these active players have a decent shot of winning a game against Larva. I just do not like the notion of, "Draco beat Larva once, man, I don't think another foreigner would have done any better than he did".
I enjoyed watching the event, the games were pretty good overall. Also, can anyone confirm if the total prize pool for both the tournament and the showmatch is 35k USD overall? According to the distribution in liquipedia it seems to be that way. It became even bigger than what we expected in the beginning, especially given the casters that were there and the organisation staff.
On December 07 2017 10:43 Alpha-NP- wrote: Maybe I need to sponsor a showmatch of Sziky against Draco? Sayle message me if you are interested.
Who's putting up the prize money for this?
With no preparation, I would give the edge to Sziky. With preparation, probably Draco since he cares more about planning individual matches than anyone I've seen.
On December 07 2017 08:09 Demurity wrote: Man you guys jumped on the hatewagon quickly. To clarify, I was not implying the logic of: Draco 1-2 Larva, and Bonyth > Draco, therefore Bonyth would 2-1 Larva.
Considering all foreigners, I believe Bonyth is definitively in the top 3, or even reduce it to top 5 for the sake of argument. Given this, and the fact that there are few foreigners who have ever beaten, hell, even played against pro players, then this is a completely valid opinion. Bonyth actually has beaten very good players. It doesn't make me delusional lol. Now, on the flipside, Larva is definitely one of the best players currently. I believe at that high level, there is a sliver of chance that Bonyth could win in a BO3, with a greater chance of success than all other foreigners.
I mean, Larva has the best ZvP in the world and Bonyth was eliminated from the last major tour he participated in, going 0-4 in PvZ or something like that.
Look, put it this way: Bonyth has beaten several legit top 20 pros. A bum sc player has no chance of beating them. Even showing historically that Bonyth has done it is sufficient to say he has a greater chance of winning than 99.9% of other foreigners.
Alternatively, can you list players who you believe has a better chance of Bonyth? Possibly other high level foreigners like Sziky, Trutacz, Eonzerg, Ret? I do not believe it is out of the question to think that any of these active players have a decent shot of winning a game against Larva. I just do not like the notion of, "Draco beat Larva once, man, I don't think another foreigner would have done any better than he did".
On December 07 2017 08:09 Demurity wrote: Man you guys jumped on the hatewagon quickly. To clarify, I was not implying the logic of: Draco 1-2 Larva, and Bonyth > Draco, therefore Bonyth would 2-1 Larva.
Considering all foreigners, I believe Bonyth is definitively in the top 3, or even reduce it to top 5 for the sake of argument. Given this, and the fact that there are few foreigners who have ever beaten, hell, even played against pro players, then this is a completely valid opinion. Bonyth actually has beaten very good players. It doesn't make me delusional lol. Now, on the flipside, Larva is definitely one of the best players currently. I believe at that high level, there is a sliver of chance that Bonyth could win in a BO3, with a greater chance of success than all other foreigners.
I mean, Larva has the best ZvP in the world and Bonyth was eliminated from the last major tour he participated in, going 0-4 in PvZ or something like that.
Look, put it this way: Bonyth has beaten several legit top 20 pros. A bum sc player has no chance of beating them. Even showing historically that Bonyth has done it is sufficient to say he has a greater chance of winning than 99.9% of other foreigners.
Alternatively, can you list players who you believe has a better chance of Bonyth? Possibly other high level foreigners like Sziky, Trutacz, Eonzerg, Ret? I do not believe it is out of the question to think that any of these active players have a decent shot of winning a game against Larva. I just do not like the notion of, "Draco beat Larva once, man, I don't think another foreigner would have done any better than he did".
I just came here to admit that I'm pretty impressed of what Larva did in game vs Lx.
I've missed the whole tournament and just re-watched the part of 'Larva scandal' and I have no idea why people make big deal about it? That was funny, come on, if you don't agree, you're all simply lying :D
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