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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
. Saw his name in the entries and just knew I wasn't good enough hah. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10367 Posts
On December 06 2017 07:53 wussleeQ wrote: Why am I not surprised that this is the same Jaeyun that beat me at a UCSD tourney in 2010 . Saw his name in the entries and just knew I wasn't good enough hah.He's a baller man! Carried UCSD to a CSL win and runner up. | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1495 Posts
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seom
South Africa491 Posts
I know i'm late to the party but I've been away for the last week and wasn't able to watch. | ||
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seom
South Africa491 Posts
On December 06 2017 20:06 seom wrote: where are the vods for this? I know i'm late to the party but I've been away for the last week and wasn't able to watch. nvm found them: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/StarCraft/videos/all | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States685 Posts
On December 06 2017 16:48 jinjin5000 wrote: If people are wondering why Chinese people seem so mad, is give this vid a watch for some background knowledge https://youtu.be/ez3SaiulaHM Sad but true :S | ||
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thinkinger
21 Posts
On December 06 2017 16:48 jinjin5000 wrote: If people are wondering why Chinese people seem so mad, is give this vid a watch for some background knowledge https://youtu.be/ez3SaiulaHM Mod, please delete this post before it goes out of control. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
On December 07 2017 02:27 Alpha-NP- wrote: What was the reasoning in not inviting alot of modern foreign players like Bonyth, Trutacz, Nemu, etc? I bet Bonyth might have done just as well as Draco. I think the organizers were a little self-important to completely ignore the players that kept Broodwar alive during SC2. I truly believe Bonyth has the highest chance of beating Larva in a series. If Draco could take one game, Bonyth could 2-1 | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 07 2017 04:30 Demurity wrote: I truly believe Bonyth has the highest chance of beating Larva in a series. If Draco could take one game, Bonyth could 2-1 Draco cheesing 1 game doesn't mean Bonyth has a legitimate shot at beating Larva. Look what happened to Legend, the player who knocked Draco out of the tournament. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On December 07 2017 04:30 Demurity wrote: I truly believe Bonyth has the highest chance of beating Larva in a series. If Draco could take one game, Bonyth could 2-1 lol the delusion | ||
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EndingLife
United States1600 Posts
On December 07 2017 04:30 Demurity wrote: I truly believe Bonyth has the highest chance of beating Larva in a series. If Draco could take one game, Bonyth could 2-1 Draco almost won 2-1. The 2 stargate sair game was looking great until a few bad decisions caused him to lose all his templar later on in the game. I think Bonyth is currently better than Draco, but I don't think Bonyth's aggressive style would do too well against Larva. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28785 Posts
Also my impression that pro zergs are the hardest for nonkoreans to beat because zerg is the most cheese-proof race. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 07 2017 05:04 EndingLife wrote: Draco almost won 2-1. The 2 stargate sair game was looking great until a few bad decisions caused him to lose all his templar later on in the game. I think Bonyth is currently better than Draco, but I don't think Bonyth's aggressive style would do too well against Larva. The problem is, those few bad decisions will happen every game and they will happen at a higher frequency than Larva. As Liquid'Drone said above, Draco has the best approach which is why he's been winning. If Draco tried to play straight up against FBH and Larva, there's a good chance he would be 0-5... Instead he's like 3-5, with 3 wins all being all-in cheeses. The longer the game goes, the higher chance he will make more mistakes than his opponent (You also have to consider the surprise factor, Larva thought he could play around in game 1 vs Draco and he got cheesed and destroyed. It didn't happen a second time). Foreigner Protosses who prepare 1 game cheeses will probably have more success than the other races to be honest. It's very hard to cheese with Zerg against a superior opponent, since ZvP is really the only match up you can and it's relatively easy for a player of that caliber to keep their probe alive for scouting. I don't think it's possible for any of the foreigner Terrans to even put up a fight to be honest. | ||
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EndingLife
United States1600 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On December 07 2017 05:04 EndingLife wrote: Draco almost won 2-1. The 2 stargate sair game was looking great until a few bad decisions caused him to lose all his templar later on in the game. I think Bonyth is currently better than Draco, but I don't think Bonyth's aggressive style would do too well against Larva. I think what happened here was: lava was still taking the game lightly in the beginning, even despite being down 1-0 and decided to play very serious after the opening went very bad for him with the two Stargate opening. | ||
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EndingLife
United States1600 Posts
On December 07 2017 07:06 Cele wrote: I think what happened here was: lava was still taking the game lightly in the beginning, even despite being down 1-0 and decided to play very serious after the opening went very bad for him with the two Stargate opening. That's definitely possible. I'd have to re-watch the games to try to figure that one out. | ||
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
Considering all foreigners, I believe Bonyth is definitively in the top 3, or even reduce it to top 5 for the sake of argument. Given this, and the fact that there are few foreigners who have ever beaten, hell, even played against pro players, then this is a completely valid opinion. Bonyth actually has beaten very good players. It doesn't make me delusional lol. Now, on the flipside, Larva is definitely one of the best players currently. I believe at that high level, there is a sliver of chance that Bonyth could win in a BO3, with a greater chance of success than all other foreigners. | ||
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AManHasNoName
United States165 Posts
On December 06 2017 16:48 jinjin5000 wrote: If people are wondering why Chinese people seem so mad, is give this vid a watch for some background knowledge https://youtu.be/ez3SaiulaHM Very good link to explain the phenomenon we're seeing. There are so many low post-count Chinese showing up even on TL demonstrating exactly this. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 07 2017 08:09 Demurity wrote: Man you guys jumped on the hatewagon quickly. To clarify, I was not implying the logic of: Draco 1-2 Larva, and Bonyth > Draco, therefore Bonyth would 2-1 Larva. Considering all foreigners, I believe Bonyth is definitively in the top 3, or even reduce it to top 5 for the sake of argument. Given this, and the fact that there are few foreigners who have ever beaten, hell, even played against pro players, then this is a completely valid opinion. Bonyth actually has beaten very good players. It doesn't make me delusional lol. Now, on the flipside, Larva is definitely one of the best players currently. I believe at that high level, there is a sliver of chance that Bonyth could win in a BO3, with a greater chance of success than all other foreigners. I mean, Larva has the best ZvP in the world and Bonyth was eliminated from the last major tour he participated in, going 0-4 in PvZ or something like that. | ||
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