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The_Red_Viper
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/N7oIV.gif) Jaedong let's go!!! Getting out of this group in first place, EZ Man i really hope he can do it, didn't look too hot on stream tbh. But i just have to cheer for him and this group should be doable right. IN JAEDONG WE TRUST | ||
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On September 20 2017 14:42 sM.Zik wrote: C'mon, Jaedong is getting out of this group ez. fuck yea, ez everytime | ||
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On September 20 2017 15:04 Zariel wrote: Why cant i liquibet on this match??!! Seems as though the expiration date for this Liquibet wasn't updated when the matches were delayed. | ||
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Mini > Sharp Jaedong > Sharp HiyA < Mini JD & Mini ezpz | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On September 20 2017 14:25 The_Red_Viper wrote: Jaedong let's go!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zk2YLQglJ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWVLa4zTMM Getting out of this group in first place, EZ Man i really hope he can do it, didn't look too hot on stream tbh. But i just have to cheer for him and this group should be doable right. IN JAEDONG WE TRUST jaedong streaming and jaedong playing official games is not the same person.he should win this group ez  | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 20 2017 16:31 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: jaedong streaming and jaedong playing official games is not the same person.he should win this group ez Oh yeah i also think that he plays better in official tournament matches JD fighting! | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On September 20 2017 16:31 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: did flashftw post his predictions yet? Sharp < Mini Jaedong < Hiya Mini > Hiya Sharp < Jaedong Jaedong > Hiya Hiya is gonna 2 port wraith the shit outta jaedong game 1 | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On September 20 2017 16:52 FlaShFTW wrote: Sharp < Mini Jaedong < Hiya Mini > Hiya Sharp < Jaedong Jaedong > Hiya Hiya is gonna 2 port wraith the shit outta jaedong game 1 ok well now you are just showing off! | ||
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FlaShFTW
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/wUx07EJ.png) dont make hiya get out his drum. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 20 2017 16:53 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: ok well now you are just showing off! that what you get for stroking his ego | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On September 20 2017 16:53 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: ok well now you are just showing off! my super powers only happen when i go indepth with the analysis. so im just dicking around. that being said I really want to see Hiya 2 port wraith and kick jaedong's ass game 1 just for the lulz. but then JD wins a standard game in the final game. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On September 20 2017 16:58 Ej_ wrote: hiya will get cumberstomped into retirement <3 THE DRUM. DONT MAKE HIYA BRING OUT THE DRUM AND HIS BOOMSTICK | ||
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Seeker
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 20 2017 17:01 Seeker wrote: You bitches ready for some amazing Seeker translations later? fo shiz, don't forget shoutouts! | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On September 20 2017 17:01 Seeker wrote: You bitches ready for some amazing Seeker translations later? can we hire you for our stream? <3 | ||
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PolarBearFur
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vVRj338.png) Mini has some explaining to do | ||
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Seeker
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If I was a twin then sure | ||
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/yERQJ7s.jpg) | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On September 20 2017 17:01 Seeker wrote: You bitches ready for some amazing Seeker translations later? bring it on! Wink into the camera, as if Leg is watching! | ||
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FlaShFTW
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damn :/ i'd pay you too | ||
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On September 20 2017 17:13 BLinD-RawR wrote: Did someone Ask for sharp? lmao. Someone got the moves ! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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hell yeah oh and its a pretty heavy gif, I'd rather you didn't quote it lol :p | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 20 2017 17:24 Ej_ wrote: Brown is such an awful colour on this map. I know right | ||
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Ancestral
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Edit: Welp. Seems good now. Afreeca must have read this and backtraced me. Edit again: Nope, it's shit again.  | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On September 20 2017 17:36 LV_426 wrote: artosis and tasteless even watching game while commenting? they are terrible. they are spot on man, what is your problem | ||
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they are good casters overall, but their game knowledge is way off. | ||
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r33k
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In other redundant news brown is so fucking hard to see on the SC:R minimap, it's time ASL vetoed colors already. | ||
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I still enjoy listening to Tastosis. | ||
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Ancestral
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On September 20 2017 17:41 r33k wrote: The Tastosis cast has always been the equivalent of the new player stream for Dota2. Nobody who's been watching the game for more than 1 week should be watching them. In other redundant news brown is so fucking hard to see on the SC:R minimap, it's time ASL vetoed colors already. Lmao this is such hilarious, ridiculous hyperbole that it's way more stupid than anything Nick and Dan said the entire game. | ||
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On September 20 2017 17:43 WiSaGaN wrote: One of the worst TvP I've watched in recent months... Elitism...cute | ||
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If I'm not TLing for AfreecaTV then call me up any time. I'll TL for you guys. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On September 20 2017 17:49 Seeker wrote: If I'm not TLing for AfreecaTV then call me up any time. I'll TL for you guys. i see what you did there | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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ouch lol | ||
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PVJ
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On September 20 2017 17:53 Twinkle Toes wrote: Is this winners match? 2nd match. You can check the OP for infos! | ||
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effective muta harass by JD | ||
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Jaedong is awesome man I love it. | ||
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JD massing lurkers and defilers. | ||
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BigFan
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On September 20 2017 18:09 usopsama wrote: Unlike Flash, Jaedong is definitely nowhere near his prime, but he was in good form in this game. pretty much this. Glad he made winners' match. Hope he can win there too to advance! JD please! | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On September 20 2017 18:05 Ej_ wrote: I guess EN2 is 30 seconds behind EN1 :X because the live stream doesnt really work for john, he's forced to upload the live stream to potplayer and that delays his stream by like 20 second on top of the stream delay will result in the 30 second behind :/ nothing we can really do about it, john is trying to find a solution to the weird youtube glitch for him. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
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On September 20 2017 18:10 CakeSauc3 wrote: That mini map was impossible to see HiyA's forces on lol ah, so you weren't the only one who thought this. My eyes now hurt from squinting | ||
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usopsama
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/8AnZfCp.jpg) Interesting stats. | ||
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PVJ
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On September 20 2017 18:16 usopsama wrote: Interesting stats. Thanks so much. Interesting how map pools play into these numbers. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
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on the other hand, a player may lose his first game, win the losers match, and win in the final match to qualify, imo, it should be 1: A vs. B 2. C vs. D 3. W1 vs. L2 4. W2 vs. L1 5. W3 vs. W4 | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 20 2017 18:19 Twinkle Toes wrote: i just noticed this is a weird format. so a player can win his first game, win the winners match, and if he loses the final match will not qualify? on the other hand, a player may lose his first game, win the losers match, and win in the final match to qualify, imo, it should be 1: A vs. B 2. C vs. D 3. W1 vs. L2 4. W2 vs. L1 5. W3 vs. W4 you win the first game then win the winner's match then you advance, you don't play the final match. On September 20 2017 18:19 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: wow i just caught virus on TL. all my pages show rainbow sheep nah you're fine | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:19 Twinkle Toes wrote: i just noticed this is a weird format. so a player can win his first game, win the winners match, and if he loses the final match will not qualify? on the other hand, a player may lose his first game, win the losers match, and win in the final match to qualify, imo, it should be 1: A vs. B 2. C vs. D 3. W1 vs. L2 4. W2 vs. L1 5. W3 vs. W4 No, if you win the winner's match you are qualified. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:19 Twinkle Toes wrote: i just noticed this is a weird format. so a player can win his first game, win the winners match, and if he loses the final match will not qualify? on the other hand, a player may lose his first game, win the losers match, and win in the final match to qualify, imo, it should be 1: A vs. B 2. C vs. D 3. W1 vs. L2 4. W2 vs. L1 5. W3 vs. W4 ? Player wins first game, wins the winners match and advance from his group in 1st place with 2-0 score. | ||
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Breach_hu
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On September 20 2017 18:19 Twinkle Toes wrote: i just noticed this is a weird format. so a player can win his first game, win the winners match, and if he loses the final match will not qualify? on the other hand, a player may lose his first game, win the losers match, and win in the final match to qualify, imo, it should be 1: A vs. B 2. C vs. D 3. W1 vs. L2 4. W2 vs. L1 5. W3 vs. W4 Just think about it as it is a double elimination. Draw a bracket and it will all make sense. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 20 2017 18:21 Twinkle Toes wrote: Are there streams other than afreeca? unfortunately not this season. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:24 usopsama wrote: Jaedong, you didn't have to do this. ya :/ | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:26 PVJ wrote: Queens nest! Gonna need that fast defiler tech. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:30 Navane wrote: How did this game open? before sharps 2-3 tank push JD attempted a 2 hatch Hydra bust, got deflected but picked off all the tanks. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:37 Ancestral wrote: Wow Afreeca completely blowing it on stream consistency. ? Works perfectly fine for me | ||
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PVJ
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On September 20 2017 18:16 usopsama wrote: Interesting stats. By the way what do the numbers after the slash mean? JD on +2 armor hydras. What a wacky game. That's why I said Sharp might be able to pull off a win here. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:38 PVJ wrote: By the way what do the numbers after the slash mean? JD on +2 armor hydras. What a wacky game. That's why I said Sharp might be able to pull off a win here. Out of 8 terrans, 3 advanced so far (3/8), etc. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:39 BigFan wrote: stupidest thing ever, wtf JD Classic JD | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:38 PVJ wrote: By the way what do the numbers after the slash mean? It's the one that played so far (10 terrans in ro24, 8 played so far and 3 qualified) | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:40 BLinD-RawR wrote: <script type"text/javascript" src="https://assets.gfycat.com/gfycat.js"></script><div style="text-align:center"><img class="gfyitem" data-id="PhonyUnfitJaguar" data-dot="false"/></div> this gif needs to go into the bw gif hall of fame | ||
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Good job by Sharp in that game though. Still Jaedong can Advance in the final match. Hopefully he can get the job done on FS. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:39 letian wrote: fuck, that JD opening really hurt his economy, he should have killed Sharp right there or be doomed to have a game like this. if he got those mine daebaks in the start it could have ended there | ||
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Player A wins vs Player B Player C wins vs Player D Player A looses from player C ==> player C advances Player B wins from player D ==> player D elminated Player A looses from player B ==> Player B advances, B eliminated. The funny thing is that player A and B are 1-1. Player A also lost from a player that was better than player B, so that doesn't tell anything. Player B also won from a player that was worse than palyer A, so that doesn't tell anything either. Still, although player A and B are equally strong, player B advances. So if you have one cheese prepared, keep it for the final match? I don't know what to make of this. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:39 Twinkle Toes wrote: is afreeca laggy on you guys also? yes, i cant watch it on source quality, its lagging constantly english one is better for some reason | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:39 usopsama wrote: Out of 8 terrans, 3 advanced so far (3/8), etc. On September 20 2017 18:40 BobMcJohnson wrote: It's the one that played so far (10 terrans in ro24, 8 played so far and 3 qualified) Oh yeah, now I see that it's up to Group F yesterday. Thanks! | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On September 20 2017 18:41 letian wrote: Whoever said Sharp would not get out of the group is a fool. Sharp is a pretty good terran and took the second place in ASL for a reason. sharp is terrible.he is in the list of shine shuttle the players that by luck and a good day did reach the finals. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: sharp is terrible.he is in the list of shine shuttle the players that by luck and a good day did reach the finals. He has just topped his group what are talking about. "Luck and good day" is a poor excuse and not an argument, sorry | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: sharp is terrible.he is in the list of shine shuttle the players that by luck and a good day did reach the finals. hes not terrible but i definiltey think hes more of a B-tier player right now. this group honestly is not that strong even with a big name like jaedong in it. jaedong just isnt that good. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:44 letian wrote: He has just topped his group what are talking about. and if a player advances from a group of ASL first timers and a slumping like crazy jaedong, does that really make him "good"? you need to put the standing of the players he beat into perspective. It's like the 8th placed NBA team being the 15th placed NBA team by 20 or so points and saying that this team can make the conference finals. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: sharp is terrible.he is in the list of shine shuttle the players that by luck and a good day did reach the finals. Wtf are you talking about, he was grinding further and further in every tour he participated, from barely qualifying to owning good players and reaching the finals, it was constant improvement. Did you forgot how he owned Mind in his way to the finals? It was one of the most creative TvT series ive ever seen. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: sharp is terrible.he is in the list of shine shuttle the players that by luck and a good day did reach the finals. They are not "terrible" and you cannot take away the hard work they put into the game. So if a little luck can help them reach the final stage sometimes, i'm all for it. And its not just about pure skill and talent, its about performing in a live event under hard mental circumstances. The three players you mentioned have all proven themselves to be excellent tournament players. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: sharp is terrible.he is in the list of shine shuttle the players that by luck and a good day did reach the finals. Sharp isn't terrible, but he is definitely worst than Mong and Sea. | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:49 _Animus_ wrote: Wtf are you talking about, he reach far enough in every tour before his finals to say hes good enough. Did you forgot how he owned Mind in his way to the finals? It was one of the most creative TvTs ive ever seen. dude got bracket luck, only getting terrans with his already great TvT | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:49 _Animus_ wrote: Wtf are you talking about, he reach far enough in every tour before his finals to say hes good enough, you forgot how he owned Mind in his way to the finals? It was one of the most innovative and creative TvTs ive ever seen. like a year ago sure.... | ||
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Well having in mind his fast and constant evolution from tour to tour unlike ANY other player he is doing amazing. He is the best noname player, better than many of the legends here. Ups and downs are normal, part of that is because he stays unrecognised by the fans even when hes doing good, he said that making him drop his passion. | ||
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![[image loading]](https://image.ibb.co/jnFj9Q/brackets.jpg) No matter what, you need 2 wins to advance, you either win 2-0 or 2-1 | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:54 Ziggy wrote: this is shaping up to be a terran dominated season imo when has not been?!  j/k not j/k | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote: hiya vs jd again Mini is ahead, isn't he? | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:55 usopsama wrote: Fucking magikarp. There is no way you can win. lol magikarp | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:56 CUTtheCBC wrote: WTF WHY DID THEY START EARLY FOR CHRISSAKES because theyre sticking to the plan they announced like a week ago | ||
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I saw tanks and I immediately overreacted lol. Tanks are the bane of protoss. and tbh, hiya could win this | ||
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On September 20 2017 18:56 CUTtheCBC wrote: WTF WHY DID THEY START EARLY FOR CHRISSAKES because the next round is being drawn at the end. And they repeatedly mentioned that today would start early. | ||
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letian
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On September 20 2017 18:51 BLinD-RawR wrote: dude got bracket luck, only getting terrans with his already great TvT Well, at least you acknowledge that he has good TvT | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:01 739 wrote: Time to watch JD getting eliminated don't say that! | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:01 739 wrote: Time to watch JD getting eliminated lol. such a jd thing to happen. i cant think of any universally regarded good player consistently underperform | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:02 Twinkle Toes wrote: lol. such a jd thing to happen. i cant think of any universally regarded good player consistently underperform ZerO | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:02 Dante08 wrote: I've faced Mini's build countless of times and it is so hard to defend perfectly as Terran. Imo only Flash defends dirty Protoss tactics like this on a consistent basis. GG scv pull and marine micro is key to this shenanigans. all while hastening the factory and vulture to nullify the harass. | ||
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maybe: tier 1 - flash tier 1.5 - jd, bisu tier 1.75 - stork tier 2 - fantasy, jangbi . . . tier 5 - zero tier 6 - leta | ||
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r.Evo
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Special Agent Andren who goes to Bosnia and shuts down computers while Americans attack house of freedom. Donald Trump imagining citizens fighting crime with their own guns. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:06 Dante08 wrote: Yeah but one mistake and you are behind your micro basically needs to be perfect. Thats why it's key | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:07 r.Evo wrote: What are these seemingly random stock paragraphs in English btw: Special Agent Andren who goes to Bosnia and shuts down computers while Americans attack house of freedom. Donald Trump imagining citizens fighting crime with their own guns. where did you find these? | ||
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Dante08
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That's why it's hard to defend | ||
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Ancestral
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Well, for statistical purposes, I'm in South Florida. I've streamed over 20 hours to Twitch in the last month at 1080p and haven't had a single dropped frame. But the stream freezes or buffers a few times a game and I have to reload the page. | ||
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r.Evo
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It's from the Sudden Attack ad that runs right after the games, these texts are just randomly attached to pictures of various players. | ||
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oh i suck lmao How were the games tonight compared to last (terrible)? | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:10 Ej_ wrote: Poor Mini didn't even get to storm his forge. oh come on, it was one time. its nothing like the time stork forgot goon range | ||
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You have the wrong mentality about this. Think of it this way. Protoss is exposing himself by having a strong early game. All you have to do is be a good terran and use your inherent advantage (range marine, scv health, repair, fast vulture, etc.) and once you weather the initial storm, it's instant win. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:17 usopsama wrote: Let's see who God will choose to smite. Guess he'll take Killer as his first victim... | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:18 Twinkle Toes wrote: how many more groups? I hope its bo5, and then bo7 starting round of 8 You can find all the info here: wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_4 | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:17 SkelA wrote: JD was ahead but played really sloppy in the end Jeez it was all over after the natural bust | ||
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United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:18 BigFan wrote: Missed the beginning, what happened? Tuned in to see jaedong kill the pylon at exp? jaedong overpool, mini forge -> nexus -> one cannon no probe pull, jaedong 6 lings, walked into the cannon and it was over from there. killed the pylon before mini even reacted. | ||
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Korea (South)3227 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:19 FlaShFTW wrote: how are you that high level of a protoss player and not bother to check ling count popping out of the early larva. even 1900 mmr protosses know how to check. I've heard that Mini suffers quite a lot from stage fright. | ||
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Happy to see Jaedong get through to the next stage. Despite some one sided games it's been a fun Ro 24 to watch. Can't wait for the next round. | ||
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/auMlowr.jpg) The RO16 is stacked. Literally everyone is strong. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:18 Twinkle Toes wrote: how many more groups? I hope its bo5, and then bo7 starting round of 8 lol theres no such thing as a Bo7 | ||
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Edit: LOL, here we go... | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:21 oEkY wrote: IIRC theyll show the best games of the Ro24 before the selection-ceremony right? hopefully we dont have to watch the whole Rush vs Mind game again, 49 mins would be hard Edit: LOL, here we go... LOOOL | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:22 Twinkle Toes wrote: lolwut? grand finals are always bo7 not in BW | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:19 FlaShFTW wrote: jaedong overpool, mini forge -> nexus -> one cannon no probe pull, jaedong 6 lings, walked into the cannon and it was over from there. killed the pylon before mini even reacted. Oh haha well dang. Mini's fault for not scouting then. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:23 FlaShFTW wrote: anyone know how long the break will be? 49 mins I guess | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:21 Twinkle Toes wrote: pvj, you are my hero My advice would be to read the op check out Liquipedia and only ask if you still don't have an answer. F.e.: you'd find that in ASL / BW finals are BO5. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:20 Twinkle Toes wrote: If JD is anywhere in this level in the post-eliminations matches, he will get absolutely destroyed. ? He tore HiyA and Mini a few new orifices and make the game vs Sharp closer than it should have ever been after the failed hydra bust. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
.......... mfer.. well in that time, anyone with korean translation want to hop onto the aslenglish2 stream with us to provide us translations? | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:24 Ej_ wrote: ? He tore HiyA and Mini a few new orifices and make the game vs Rush closer than it should have ever been after the failed hydra bust. *Sharp | ||
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United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:24 Ej_ wrote: ? He tore HiyA and Mini a few new orifices and make the game vs Rush closer than it should have ever been after the failed hydra bust. that was more mini losing than jaedong winning though... like i said, if you put things into perspective, ofc a mediocre player will look good against a bad player or a player with a terrible strategy like mini. | ||
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Yes, thank you . Always mix up the 2. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:26 howLiN wrote: Are they gonna pick the ro16 groups today? Yes they will. We're just having a break from the cast then they should be back on. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:26 howLiN wrote: Are they gonna pick the ro16 groups today? yes | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Wait, so I can still catch the ceremony at home? Yes! | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't understand the standard here calling people bad or mediocre. Are you only good if you are a favorite to win the tournament? its good in relation to the overall player group. good is like flash, bisu, soulkey, etc. im saying in relation to the average skill level of the players who are in the round of 16, jaedong is not that great, probably slightly below average if anything, maybe average. unless he gets a really favorable group, i dont expect him to advance. | ||
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Germany2606 Posts
Should be though, honestly... | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:25 FlaShFTW wrote: that was more mini losing than jaedong winning though... like i said, if you put things into perspective, ofc a mediocre player will look good against a bad player or a player with a terrible strategy like mini. The game against Sharp was not bad considering JD was playing from behind on low eco all the time. How's that perspective? This is obviously not as obvious as failed Mini's cannon. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:28 NoS-Craig wrote: Yes they will. We're just having a break from the cast then they should be back on. Thanks. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't understand the standard here calling people bad or mediocre. Are you only good if you are a favorite to win the tournament? Players like Mong and sSak are not favorites to win the tournament, but they are pretty fucking strong. Jaedong's current form, however, just seems really flimsy. | ||
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Norway1325 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't understand the standard here calling people bad or mediocre. Are you only good if you are a favorite to win the tournament? Because its easy and/or people use the anonymity of internet to feel superior. Its sad, but not unique. | ||
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its exhausting for the players and honestly I wouldn't say they never happened but they were never good and sometimes you just can't really prepare for 6 maps vs 4 | ||
EsportsJohn
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On September 20 2017 19:10 Ej_ wrote: Poor Mini didn't even get to storm his forge. May this meme live forever in infamy. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:29 letian wrote: The game against Sharp was not bad considering JD was playing from behind on low eco all the time how's that perspective to you? This is obviously not as obvious as failed Mini's cannon I presume. and sharp isnt a top tier player either. that fact that you struggle against that says a lot, and he shouldve been ahead considering he stopped an 8 rax cold too. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:33 EsportsJohn wrote: May this meme live forever in infamy. i mean he basically stormed his own cannon there | ||
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Is what im sayin' | ||
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grand finals have always been bo5 in the history of brood war. theres no chance thats changing any time soon. bo7s are way too long. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote: its exhausting for the players and honestly I wouldn't say they never happened but they were never good and sometimes you just can't really prepare for 6 maps vs 4 reposting in case someone missed my post | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:38 FlaShFTW wrote: grand finals have always been bo5 in the history of brood war. theres no chance thats changing any time soon. bo7s are way too long. Imagine a 7 hour long TvT final lol | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:38 FlaShFTW wrote: grand finals have always been bo5 in the history of brood war. theres no chance thats changing any time soon. bo7s are way too long. I wouldn't even say that it's too long for viewers, it's just too much for the players. Playing a potential 7 high-stakes games that could go 30 min+ at once would destroy your wrists. Bo7 would be really nice to watch, but I think the quality of games would nosedive after the 4th game. | ||
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please no. | ||
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please yes. (fantasy vs flash, gogogo) | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:46 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: isn't group selection right now? will it be streamed? after this and yes as usual. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:44 superjoppe wrote: Was only able to see the first match. Are there vods already for the rest? http://esports.sports.afreecatv.com/?control=highlight | ||
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sweet thx | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
Flash picks Killer Shine picks Mong Bisu picks Sharp Soulkey picks Stork | ||
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and then JD picks Larva LOL. | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:33 EsportsJohn wrote: May this meme live forever in infamy. He'll never live it down | ||
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Killer, Larva, Effort, hero, JD Stork, Rain, Shuttle Ssak, Mind, Mong, Sharp My guess is for the 1st picks: Flash -> hero Shine -> Sharp Bisu -> Killer Soulkey -> Mind | ||
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On September 20 2017 19:52 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: Flash picks JD and then JD picks Larva LOL. flash will pick shuttle first to kill the asl1 champ. | ||
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Thanks. But although the English live stream works perfect for me, these vods lag a lot. Anyone with the same problem? Different CDN? | ||
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That would be the only time where bo7 would be acceptable. Fantasy is so horrible at TvT it would be done in 45 minutes. | ||
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United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote: pretty sure flash wants 3 zergs in his group might pick killer first then since killer's ZvZ is pretty solid and killer might want to bring in another zerg, maybe larva. im really curious to see what rivalries there are and what flash's season theme is this time. | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:03 r33k wrote: That would be the only time where bo7 would be acceptable. Fantasy is so horrible at TvT it would be done in 45 minutes. what? Fantasy beat Flash 3-0 in the last televised TvT game in the KeSPA era :S | ||
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Flash and Bisu, so casual | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:06 BigFan wrote: what? Fantasy beat Flash 3-0 in the last televised TvT game in the KeSPA era :S When I was talking about flash vs fantasy, I was referring to the time they played in 2010 (I think) and it ended being 3-2 for flash iirc. That was probably the tvt series ever, the first and last game were as good as tvt could be. Anyway, I was just having fun with the quote since I personally love tvt but I know how tedious it can be to watch sometimes :p | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:08 Headshot wrote: It says group D is being streamed right now and there was an intense TvT with Mind, but Mind isn't even in group D in this thread. I'm confused. that was to buy time till the group selection ceremony. It was a TvT between Mind and Rush, final match from earlier group. Group D already concluded and now we wait. | ||
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Canada2371 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:08 Headshot wrote: It says group D is being streamed right now and there was an intense TvT with Mind, but Mind isn't even in group D in this thread. I'm confused. I think they were just replaying what they thought was the best game of the ro24 while we wait for the group selection ceremony. | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:08 Headshot wrote: It says group D is being streamed right now and there was an intense TvT with Mind, but Mind isn't even in group D in this thread. I'm confused. it was rebroadcast of the final match in group C. Amazing tvt. | ||
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On September 20 2017 17:01 Seeker wrote: You bitches ready for some amazing Seeker translations later? Shout out to our very own Seeker delivering! | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:18 ajmer wrote: wait, Flash can switch one of his group to any other player at the end of the draft? that's imba. You know in Mario Kart if you're in the lead you just get a single banana all the time? This is the opposite of that, getting three read shells if you're in the lead. | ||
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Stork, Rain, Shuttle Ssak, Mind, Mong, Sharp 1st picks: Flash -> Killer | ||
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Canada2371 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:20 superjoppe wrote: You know in Mario Kart if you're in the lead you just get a single banana all the time? This is the opposite of that, getting three read shells if you're in the lead. Perfect comparison :D | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:22 BigFan wrote: lol Flash with the tease and Mong using his magic it worked, Mong is a mentalist confirmed? | ||
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BigFan
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On September 20 2017 20:23 Essbee wrote: it worked, Mong is a mentalist confirmed? 100% confirmed! lol Larva | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
Larva is the new savior with the taunts and stuff, that's great | ||
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Stork, Rain, Shuttle Ssak, Mind, Mong, Sharp 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva | ||
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Stork, Rain, Shuttle Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind | ||
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PVJ
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Stork, Rain, Shuttle Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong | ||
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BigFan
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On September 20 2017 20:35 ajmer wrote: Wait, wasn't SoulKey a Terran, after whom SK Terran was named? there was another player named Soulkey: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/401_NPGL_SoulKey I believe this is him. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:42 EsportsJohn wrote: I wouldn't even say that it's too long for viewers, it's just too much for the players. Playing a potential 7 high-stakes games that could go 30 min+ at once would destroy your wrists. Bo7 would be really nice to watch, but I think the quality of games would nosedive after the 4th game. Brood War players play 8+ hours every day... And I don't think the extra intensity from its being finals would make the difference. That said, bo5 is definitely the Brood War tradition. It's funny how in Smash afaik they kept adding rounds because the skill ceiling kept getting lower as the games went on, at least from Melee->Brawl->Smash 4. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:38 BigFan wrote: there was another player named Soulkey: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/401_NPGL_SoulKey I believe this is him. Hah, have you searched him out on purpose? | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork | ||
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On September 20 2017 20:43 letian wrote: Hah, have you searched him out on purpose? ? | ||
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PVJ
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle | ||
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BigFan
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On September 20 2017 20:47 ajmer wrote: Where did "Eyewater" come from supposed to be some literal translation or something | ||
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort | ||
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On September 20 2017 21:00 Zealgoon wrote: is larva trying to kill himself or something I think he's just having fun with it. Maybe thinking it'll be mostly ZvZ. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:48 BigFan wrote: supposed to be some literal translation or something That is a reference that whoever plays him gonna cry, incorrect translation of tears into English. | ||
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Here's how ro 16 looks based on the player's old teams: SKT Bisu Larva sSak Rain CJ Entus Effort Mong OZ Jaedong Killer STX Soul herO Shuttle KHAN Stork Sharp FOX Shine Mind STARS SoulKey KT FlaSh | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On September 20 2017 21:05 oEkY wrote: Flash should swap himself into Group B as the 4th player, so he gets a group full of Z's... don't think hes allowed to do that | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain | ||
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain 3rd picks: Rain -> Sharp Grp A: Flash Killer Rain Sharp | ||
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BigFan
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On September 20 2017 21:11 ajmer wrote: Watch Flash swap Jaedong into his group would never do it | ||
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PVJ
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Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: Ssak, 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain 3rd picks: Rain -> Sharp Effort -> hero Grp A: Flash Killer Rain Sharp Grp B: Shine Larva Effort hero | ||
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letian
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FlaShFTW
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On September 20 2017 21:17 oEkY wrote: Is Flash allowed to swap himself? or are the seeded players untouchable? untouchable. | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:18 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: Thing about Group B - how do you prepare for it when all the zergs are in it! :p you play rock paper scissors to practice | ||
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ajmer
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:19 ajmer wrote: Can Flash swap two players outside of his group? Like swapping a player from groups B & C? Or must he choose one player from group A? he can swap anywhere | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain 3rd picks: Rain -> Sharp Effort -> hero Shuttle -> Ssak Grp A: Flash Killer Rain Sharp Grp B: Shine Larva Effort hero Grp C: Bisu Mind Shuttle Ssak | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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coolprogrammingstuff
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On September 20 2017 21:18 FlaShFTW wrote: you play rock paper scissors to practice i was getting at there's no one left! ;p | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain 3rd picks: Rain -> Sharp Effort -> hero Shuttle -> Ssak Stork -> JD Grp A: Flash Killer Rain Sharp Grp B: Shine Larva Effort hero Grp C: Bisu Mind Shuttle Ssak Grp D: Soulkey Mong Stork Jaedong | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:22 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: i was getting at there's no one left! ;p jaedong for the highest bidder | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Vy6wCHE.jpg) | ||
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letian
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Vuk_91
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:25 letian wrote: Flash - Rain bromance confirmed wasn't this always known? | ||
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ajmer
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
not for me | ||
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Twinkle Toes
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:29 Twinkle Toes wrote: Was Larva already there kespa era? I only knew him through the balance thread, literally came out of nowhere he was Bisu's training partner, B-teamer like Mong was in CJ. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
yeah they're pretty much BFFs | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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Storchen
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain 3rd picks: Rain -> Sharp Effort -> hero Shuttle -> Ssak Stork -> JD Flash's winner's swap: Rain <-> Mong Grp A: Flash Killer Mong Sharp Grp B: Shine Larva Effort hero Grp C: Bisu Mind Shuttle Ssak Grp D: Soulkey Rain Stork Jaedong | ||
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FlaShFTW
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:34 BigFan wrote: Rain: Flash I love you lol yeah :D | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
D e a t h e a t h | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
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ajmer
Poland27 Posts
Flash Mong Effort whatever Bisu whatever JD Stork | ||
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Singapore3440 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:35 PVJ wrote: Group D for D e a t h e a t h here, fixed ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/VhnTgvC.png) | ||
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Germany522 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:36 oEkY wrote: Cant stop laughing about Group B, it is so silly... Should be called Group Z | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
906 Posts
A-C really close | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Perfect. | ||
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Canada2371 Posts
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coolprogrammingstuff
906 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:39 letian wrote: Thanks for awesome translation Seeker! I thought he was fantastic. Clear and quick, no really stumbling, good voice. | ||
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France54 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:39 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Surprised that Rain would be fine with a group with soulkey and jaedong probably thinking it'll be easier to practice for 2 matchups. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:38 FlaShFTW wrote: grand finals have always been bo5 in the history of brood war. theres no chance thats changing any time soon. bo7s are way too long. traditions change. and i think with the "resurgence" of bw, i think a bo7 finals would be appropriate. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
I hope Rain also wins and then Stork can win out in a PvP | ||
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gk_ender
United States717 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:41 Twinkle Toes wrote: traditions change. and i think with the "resurgence" of bw, i think a bo7 finals would be appropriate. Why? What needs to be best of 7 about it? Youd have add maps too | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:39 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Surprised that Rain would be fine with a group with soulkey and jaedong I know right | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:35 PVJ wrote: Seeded players are: Flash Shine Bisu Soulkey Ro24 players: 1st picks: Flash -> Killer Shine -> Larva Bisu -> Mind Soulkey -> Mong 2nd picks: Mong -> Stork Mind -> Shuttle Larva -> Effort Killer -> Rain 3rd picks: Rain -> Sharp Effort -> hero Shuttle -> Ssak Stork -> JD Flash's winner's swap: Rain <-> Mong Grp A: Flash Killer Mong Sharp Grp B: Shine Larva Effort hero Grp C: Bisu Mind Shuttle Ssak Grp D: Soulkey Rain Stork Jaedong Are these all the players left? Wow group Death indeed! | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:41 Twinkle Toes wrote: traditions change. and i think with the "resurgence" of bw, i think a bo7 finals would be appropriate. pls tell what do you think about 4 map mappools? is it too small? 9 map mappool for the win? | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:44 gk_ender wrote: Why? What needs to be best of 7 about it? Youd have add maps too Well, most major tournaments in series are bo7, and SC2! granted SC2 games are fast, but 2 more games with old-progamers and old-game tournament we dont know what will happen next is welcome in my book, even 7 hours TvT BC vs. BC lock | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:50 Twinkle Toes wrote: Well, most major tournaments in series are bo7, and SC2! granted SC2 games are fast, but 2 more games with old-progamers and old-game tournament we dont know what will happen next is welcome in my book, even 7 hours TvT BC vs. BC lock its not just the pace of the games, its preparing for maps, and how much of an effect the maps pose in a series and the players. | ||
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ajmer
Poland27 Posts
Grp A: Flash #1 Killer #21 Mong #16 Sharp #23 Grp B: Shine #10 Larva #6 Effort #5 hero #15 Grp C: Bisu #3 Mind #7 Shuttle #20 Ssak #14 Grp D: Soulkey #4 Rain #12 Stork #17 Jaedong #8 | ||
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Canada1707 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:54 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Seriously, group b? Why all zergs... they asked for it. every single person in that group wanted to be there | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:47 chuDr3t4 wrote: pls tell what do you think about 4 map mappools? is it too small? 9 map mappool for the win? If you are worried about map pool adjustments this early in the tournament in a 20 year-old game with plenty of golden eras, then you are looking at the situation wrong, maybe. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:57 Twinkle Toes wrote: If you are worried about map pool adjustments this early in the tournament in a 20 year-old game with plenty of golden eras, then you are looking at the situation wrong, maybe. more maps makes it harder for players to prepare leading to bad games. | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:57 Twinkle Toes wrote: If you are worried about map pool adjustments this early in the tournament in a 20 year-old game with plenty of golden eras, then you are looking at the situation wrong, maybe. If you are worried about Bo7 in a 20 year-old game with plenty of golden eras, then you are looking at the situation wrong, maybe. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
Flash Killer Mong Sharp Group B (September 26, 2017 - 19:00 KST) Shine Larva EffOrt hero Group C (October 8, 2017 - 19:00 KST) Bisu Mind Shuttle sSak Group D (October 10, 2017 - 19:00 KST) Soulkey Rain Stork Jaedong | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2004_You_Are_the_Golf_King_MSL | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:00 chuDr3t4 wrote: If you are worried about Bo7 in a 20 year-old game with plenty of golden eras, then you are looking at the situation wrong, maybe. Let me repeat my reasons for such: 1. Bo7 means more games, more entertainment and tension (players and fans alike) 2. Bo7 is standard in big tournaments 3. BW prolevel is at its very tail end as far as we know, this may be one of the last ones, so lets give it a proper send off | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:04 Harem wrote: Dont feel like going back and quoting posts from thread but there has been bo7 finals in BW before. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2004_You_Are_the_Golf_King_MSL And Nada lost | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:08 Seeker wrote: I hope you guys enjoyed my crappy translation It was great Seeker, thanks from all of us! | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:06 Twinkle Toes wrote: Let me repeat my reasons for such: 1. Bo7 means more games, more entertainment and tension (players and fans alike) 2. Bo7 is standard in big tournaments 3. BW prolevel is at its very tail end as far as we know, this may be one of the last ones, so lets give it a proper send off In sc2 maybe. What does BW care what is standard in sc2 tournaments. (where the games are much shorter than in BW afaik.) | ||
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ajmer
Poland27 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:08 Seeker wrote: I hope you guys enjoyed my crappy translation You did a great job! | ||
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orvinreyes
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orvinreyes
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On September 20 2017 19:21 usopsama wrote: The RO16 is stacked. Literally everyone is strong. so much zerg to get rekt :p | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
1. Did Flash move another player besides Mong? 2. Who are the best players remaining besides the great 4 Flash Jaedong Bisu Stork? I don't follow bw much and wanna know who else has a chance. Like best 2 others. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3373 Posts
As for bo7, it had never been standard in bw in any tournament. And for sc2 the early tournaments wer not bo7 either. It can be considered relatively recent and comes with the faster speed and somewhat coinflippy nature of the game too. Bo3/bo5 is fine. Map preparation s better thay way too so better games. | ||
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Bulgaria750 Posts
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Singapore4128 Posts
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gk_ender
United States717 Posts
It seems to me that a bo7 format with the extra maps and games would lead to worse games. Honestly these games haven't been really top tier (though they are getting better) and I would love to see bw reach it's old heights | ||
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usopsama
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Shinokuki
United States859 Posts
On September 20 2017 23:05 Prince_Stranger wrote: Masterplan by Flash to eliminate JD and SK. I believe they are the only 2 zergs (besides Effort) who can stop him. lol... you got it wrong there buddy. It's larva effort and rain who can stop him | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On September 21 2017 01:19 sLimze wrote: How do these schedules work? I was awake for this damn thing and i didn't realize that it was going on. When is the next group? Is there a schedule anywhere? The dates and times, in KST, are always on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_4 . Just convert KST to your local time using a timezone converter. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On September 21 2017 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote: Oh man that JD group, that will be tough He avoided Terran and Bisu, only way his group could be easier is if it was Killer instead of Soulkey. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
On September 21 2017 01:19 sLimze wrote: How do these schedules work? I was awake for this damn thing and i didn't realize that it was going on. When is the next group? Is there a schedule anywhere? You can check the TL calendar for specific times and dates. Sunday and tuesdays will be the normal game days | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:06 Twinkle Toes wrote: Let me repeat my reasons for such: 1. Bo7 means more games, more entertainment and tension (players and fans alike) 2. Bo7 is standard in big tournaments 3. BW prolevel is at its very tail end as far as we know, this may be one of the last ones, so lets give it a proper send off Personally, I care about the quality of the matches more than the quantity. In a BO7 map pool, the players would have far less time to prepare for each map than they do now. | ||
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Canada32740 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 21 2017 02:28 Ej_ wrote: He avoided Terran and Bisu, only way his group could be easier is if it was Killer instead of Soulkey. It's really hard to say imo. While you have a point about avoiding terran i would still have prefered a group with one of the "weaker" terrans and shuttle or something. JD didn't really look like a monster in any matchup in spon matches and Rain, Soulkey and even Stork are imo harder to prepare for. But that's mainly a feeling tbh so i could be totally wrong. I probably would have even prefered JD to be in group B | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On September 21 2017 03:43 blade55555 wrote: Man, worried about jaedong making it past the RO16, tough group for him. Group B is bullshit! I hope Larva and Effort can make it out, but it's ZvZ so anything can happen. 75% of the players in RO16 is tough for Jaedong. Flash, Bisu, sSak, Mind, Shuttle, Soulkey, Rain, Mong, Stork, Effort, etc | ||
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United States833 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
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ortseam
996 Posts
On September 21 2017 00:07 RKC wrote: How is Shine's ZvZ? I would assume his bag of builds work better against T and P... He's gonna wreck everyone with hydras Edit: Also, i think JD has a decent chance, Soulkey is ZvZ where JD has more experience and confidence and two Ps not named BIsu. Only group C would have been hard with Bisu/Mind/Shuttle imo | ||
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Piratezerg
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Stork is an easy touch for him last ASL and JvZ. Why do people think the group is such a bad one for him? | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
On September 21 2017 04:54 Piratezerg wrote: Woof a lot of people are down on Jaedong, didn't he reach the top of the ladder recently? What am I missing. Stork is an easy touch for him last ASL and JvZ. Why do people think the group is such a bad one for him? Precisely, Jaedong destroyed Stork last time they played and then it's JvZ + ZvP which is much better than ZvT for him. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Still believe in him though ofc! Still a tough group imo | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:08 Seeker wrote: I hope you guys enjoyed my crappy translation Where can I find the translation? Thanks! | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
Not sure which is the real group of death. I'm taking a hard look at Group B and it looks pretty fierce. Effort, Larva, Hero all have legit chances of being champ. And lol Shine is just being forgotten despite being a Finalist last season -- although I can sympathize with that opinion... | ||
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Russian Federation19 Posts
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
I don't understand why Rain wanted to be put in group D. Group A was fine, I mean Baxter? Sharp? Clearly not the toughest opponents. He prefers playing against soulkey and jaedong ?! Also Larva is a dead nerd. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Seeker translating?? That alone might make it worth it | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 21 2017 05:03 usopsama wrote: Where can I find the translation? Thanks! Seeker translated on the tastosis stream for the duration of the selection ceremony. Pretty good overall, would recommend for you to watch it. On September 21 2017 05:26 RouaF wrote: Thanks Seeker for translating, that was really good. I don't understand why Rain wanted to be put in group D. Group A was fine, I mean Baxter? Sharp? Clearly not the toughest opponents. He prefers playing against soulkey and jaedong ?! Also Larva is a dead nerd. maybe he just doesn't care who his opponents are? That and maybe he loves Flash enough to want to sacrifice himself for him to advance | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
On September 21 2017 05:26 RouaF wrote: Thanks Seeker for translating, that was really good. I don't understand why Rain wanted to be put in group D. Group A was fine, I mean Baxter? Sharp? Clearly not the toughest opponents. He prefers playing against soulkey and jaedong ?! Also Larva is a dead nerd. This. Did I miss the part where Rain suddenly became good at pvz lately? Also Stork in pvp? No idea what's on his mind. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:08 Seeker wrote: I hope you guys enjoyed my crappy translation It wasn't crappy It was better than anything I heard so far from other casters tbo. One thing though, the background volume should have been lowered because I couldn't hear you sometimes. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 21 2017 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's really hard to say imo. While you have a point about avoiding terran i would still have prefered a group with one of the "weaker" terrans and shuttle or something. JD didn't really look like a monster in any matchup in spon matches and Rain, Soulkey and even Stork are imo harder to prepare for. But that's mainly a feeling tbh so i could be totally wrong. I probably would have even prefered JD to be in group B My thoughts exactly. If there is anything where JD can deiver whether he is in bad shape or not it is ZvZ. Besides he has already been in pure Z groups before and topped them, so. This D group doesn't look good also because I'd like all the players to advance. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
[A] - Flash, Mong [B] - Effort, Shine [C] - Shuttle, Bisu [D] - Rain, Stork | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
On September 21 2017 06:43 PVJ wrote: So here's what I hope will happen. Not sure I'll vote the same on liquibet though. [A] - Flash, Mong [B] - Effort, Shine [C] - Shuttle, Bisu [D] - Rain, Stork You think stork has the pvz to get past both jaedong and soulkey? O.O | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 21 2017 05:03 rauk wrote: jvz and jvp hasn't been a thing for 7 years man. i want dongjwa to make it out of his group but i think stork and rain are gonna upset him and advance JvZ is still there, maybe not as strong as it was before. Everybody should keep in mind that Jaedong has always been a very mechanical player unfortunately age eats away this quality first. He himself said that he no longer feels that his fingers are as fast, in addition he has wrist problems as well which he does not speak of often (correct me). Watching his streams I noticed that in late game he sometimes missclicks units or starts spaming too much to compensate for misscliks. This is a sad thing to witness. Nevertheless, his games stay being nail-biting to the end whatever form he is and that is why he is my favourite player of all times and I hope he tops this group! | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
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gamapg
Philippines189 Posts
His mechanics are solid, but I feel he's so vulnerable in the mid-game because of his over aggression coupled with twitch decision making against mech terrans which have an inherent advantage defending their positions.... I'm gonna root for Jaedong whenever Terran goes MnM (except flash's 5 rax +1), but jaedong against Mech... not his alley... Good luck to Jaedong though.... hope he regains his swagger coupled with his veteran's wisdom for the game | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On September 21 2017 12:19 gamapg wrote: Man jaedong....everyone loves you but brodie's got to work on his ZvsMech...... Only zergs that I feel are comfortable going against Mech terran are Soulkey, Effort, and Larva... Jaedong's living in the past era, hope he comes in with some new tricks. His mechanics are solid, but I feel he's so vulnerable in the mid-game because of his over aggression coupled with twitch decision making against mech terrans which have an inherent advantage defending their positions.... I'm gonna root for Jaedong whenever Terran goes MnM (except flash's 5 rax +1), but jaedong against Mech... not his alley... Good luck to Jaedong though.... hope he regains his swagger coupled with his veteran's wisdom for the game effOrt has just as much trouble as Jaedong, if not more, with late game mech. Jaedong has actually quite a few good ideas, chief among them his lurker/defiler drops while getting his 4th base up, but his execution has been really lacking throughout the entire matchup, which is why he hasn't looked very good at it. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On September 21 2017 13:46 outscar wrote: Honestly group B looks more like group of death, of massacre and cannibalism. All zergs are solid af. I think Shine will mindfuck them all even in ZvZ. Group B is a rock-paper-scissor competition. It is hardly a group of death. | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On September 21 2017 06:46 FlaShFTW wrote: You think stork has the pvz to get past both jaedong and soulkey? O.O It's been a long time since ASL2 and Stork beat JD in quite a couple of showmatches and spons. SK is harder, I agree, but since it's only 2 MUs and I don't think he really needs to train that much for PvP he might be able to come up with something. It's also possible that if he manages to win his 1st match he'll beat Rain in the winners and go out 1st. This is just what I'm hoping for and trying to rationalise it. It's going to be hard and he might crush out 0-2 just as well. | ||
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Shalashaska_123
United States142 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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Sweden2760 Posts
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
On September 21 2017 19:20 c3rberUs wrote: Group B is the hivemind at work, Shine sent forth the summons and well, all them zergs followed lol Its as if the Overmind suddenly got killed and most of the swarm are just suddenly tearing each other apart. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
Round 16 is going to be amazing. I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. I want to see how Flash, Shuttle, Effort and Bisu go into the next stage. From the ladder, practice and tournaments games I've seen from these guys. I'm really pumped to see how they go in the next part of the ASL. Such a fun ASL at the moment. I Hope we get more close games then the Ro 24 though. | ||
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VioleTAK
4315 Posts
After all he's one of the players who could really use at least a good portion of that prize cash. To buy new keyboards. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On September 21 2017 18:53 Shalashaska_123 wrote: Thank you, Seeker, for providing translations. I personally think FlaSh was given too much of an advantage. Being able to pick first from the pool of 16 and switching any other two players at the end is pretty huge. He switched out Rain for Mong, which made his group the easiest. Group B is certainly going to be a bloodbath. I feel bad for Larva; that challenge to Shine blew up in his face when Effort and Hero came in the picture, and FlaSh didn't help him out in the end. Most if not all of his training was for ZvT and ZvP, so I'm curious how he'll handle this situation. Group C is the group of death in my opinion. All the players went really deep in previous ASLs, so I expect that group to be the most competitive. Group D on paper would seem to be the group of death, but I don't think it is because Stork and JD aren't as dominant as they once were. I think Rain was delighted to transfer over to this group for this reason and the fact that he'd only have to prepare for PvP and PvZ. I'd love for them to prove me wrong, though. I really wish Stargirl would've chosen the groups by lottery. Shalashaska_123 I don't. Larva challenged Shine to pick him, and on his own turn he picked Effort. He created 75% of the ZvZvZvZ group himself, and his request to get switched at the end was just made to increase his camera time. If he'd wanted to go against Flash, he could have said something at the start. | ||
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Kau
Canada3500 Posts
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polgas
Canada1752 Posts
JD you can do it. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
Easy for Flash. No clue who will be second to advance. Group B: I think all the Zergs in group B is going to be very entertaining. There is a nice grudge match between Shine (a creative mastermind) and Larva (Flash thinks is a new up and comer). Not to mention Effort and Hero both have a good chance of winning. Anything can happen in ZvZ Group C: I wish I knew more about these players. I don't follow the scene enough to know about them. Group D: I'm hoping for Stork and Jaedong. But my brain tells me Rain is gonna advance. But alot of viewers are underestimating Stork. He trounced Last and shocked everyone. I think Stork has a chance of shocking us and advancing again. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 22 2017 05:01 Alpha-NP- wrote: Group A: Easy for Flash. No clue who will be second to advance. Group B: I think all the Zergs in group B is going to be very entertaining. There is a nice grudge match between Shine (a creative mastermind) and Larva (Flash thinks is a new up and comer). Not to mention Effort and Hero both have a good chance of winning. Anything can happen in ZvZ Group C: I wish I knew more about these players. I don't follow the scene enough to know about them. Group D: I'm hoping for Stork and Jaedong. But my brain tells me Rain is gonna advance. But alot of viewers are underestimating Stork. He trounced Last and shocked everyone. I think Stork has a chance of shocking us and advancing again. Group C has Bisu, Mind and Shuttle. Surprised you don't know about them tbh ^^ Stork is unlikely to beat Soulkey and Jaedong who both have solid ZvP so Rain should have issues as well. Wouldn't be surprising to see SK and Jaedong face off in the winners' match either. However, there is always a chance for an upset with a BO1 so who know. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 22 2017 05:37 Alpha-NP- wrote: Mind Shuttle Ssak I don't know anything about if you'd be polite enough to fill me in. Mind was on WeMadeFox but transferred to KT during the end of the KeSPA era. This was the guy who upset Bisu in 3 straight games during that one MSL. During the Sonic era, he had really strong TvZ (won offline tourneys quite a bit against the likes of Killer) and was one of the best TvTers. He's still a pretty decent and strong Terran if he practices and prepares hard. His TvZ doesn't seem as solid as it once was but that's likely due to stronger competition. IMO, his TvP is his worst matchup and seems to be the bane of many terrans. Shuttle was the captain of STX during the KeSPA era and is the ASL1 champion beating even Last at the time. Even though he's fallen from that level imo, he still has a chance against sSak and whoever the winner from the first match is. He had strong PvT (I believe he still does) and PvP can really vary as well. He had a period where I recall he had strong PvZ as well during the Sonic era despite wanting to exterminate all zergs lol (his kespa era vZ record is pretty bad from what I remember). Keep in mind that this was the guy who was given a special nickname for his ability to perform when money was on the line (sponmatches). Finally, sSak is kind of an anomaly lol. He was on SKT T1 during the KeSPA era. When this guy came back during the Sonic era, he actually won SSL10 against Last who was a TvT monster at the time. He's someone who should not be underestimated at all. Take a look at the last ASL. The guy beat Last, Jaedong and a slew of other really strong players before he took Bisu to a deciding game 5 on Outsider where he had a chance to actually upset his former teammate. That's also with the guy admitting to not practicing and doing other things too lol. I would say that he has a chance to top this group depending on how things go and how well he prepares so it wouldn't surprise me at all. There's probably much more that can be written about each one and personally, I think this group is going to be one of the hardest ones to call due to the abilities of all the players. Hope that helped | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On September 22 2017 05:57 BigFan wrote: Mind was on WeMadeFox but transferred to KT during the end of the KeSPA era. This was the guy who upset Bisu in 3 straight games during that one MSL. During the Sonic era, he had really strong TvZ (won offline tourneys quite a bit against the likes of Killer) and was one of the best TvTers. He's still a pretty decent and strong Terran if he practices and prepares hard. His TvZ doesn't seem as solid as it once was but that's likely due to stronger competition. IMO, his TvP is his worst matchup and seems to be the bane of many terrans. Shuttle was the captain of STX during the KeSPA era and is the ASL1 champion beating even Last at the time. Even though he's fallen from that level imo, he still has a chance against sSak and whoever the winner from the first match is. He had strong PvT (I believe he still does) and PvP can really vary as well. He had a period where I recall he had strong PvZ as well during the Sonic era despite wanting to exterminate all zergs lol (his kespa era vZ record is pretty bad from what I remember). Keep in mind that this was the guy who was given a special nickname for his ability to perform when money was on the line (sponmatches). Finally, sSak is kind of an anomaly lol. He was on SKT T1 during the KeSPA era. When this guy came back during the Sonic era, he actually won SSL10 against Last who was a TvT monster at the time. He's someone who should not be underestimated at all. Take a look at the last ASL. The guy beat Last, Jaedong and a slew of other really strong players before he took Bisu to a deciding game 5 on Outsider where he had a chance to actually upset his former teammate. That's also with the guy admitting to not practicing and doing other things too lol. I would say that he has a chance to top this group depending on how things go and how well he prepares so it wouldn't surprise me at all. There's probably much more that can be written about each one and personally, I think this group is going to be one of the hardest ones to call due to the abilities of all the players. Hope that helped It was nice even for me to reread the stuff Never underestimate SKT1 players, even their scrubs can deliver. | ||
Crisium
United States1618 Posts
Flash Mong Effort Larva Bisu Shuttle Stork Jaedong (gotta believe) | ||
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THE Sliggy
Australia65 Posts
Stork Bisu Shuttle Shine Effort Flash Mong | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:03 r33k wrote: That would be the only time where bo7 would be acceptable. Fantasy is so horrible at TvT it would be done in 45 minutes. LOL, what? Fanta was one of the only few guys in post-savior era (Flash, Skyhight and Leta were the 3 others) who knew how to play TvT properly. From what alternate universe did you came? | ||
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