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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 11 2017 12:38 GMT
#341
sSak dominated as expected.
Sad to see Last go :<
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Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
September 11 2017 12:39 GMT
#342
Does anyone know which songs they are using for intros/pre-match background?
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azrael1965
Profile Joined May 2017
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 12:52:07
September 11 2017 12:45 GMT
#343
Where can I watch your stream?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 12:56:05
September 11 2017 12:50 GMT
#344
On September 11 2017 21:33 FlaShFTW wrote:
Last had 2/1 when he tried to take his 4th and had the double stasis go off near the bridge to his 4th where stork traded armies.


Last threw his lead the first time he pushed out over the bridge (leading to his main) after he was maxed. Both players were maxed but Stork had 4 bases and was taking his 5th. Last's edge in that scenario would have been to have an upgrade lead (wish he should have had) so he could roll Stork's army cost efficiently. Instead he only had 1-0 and decided to push out with his tanks exposed and no mine protection, he lost ~40 supply worth of tanks for free there. At that point Stork's eco kicked in again so he was able to just churn out gate units and keep the momentum.

I don't understand why Last would even consider moving out like that with just 1-0 and i don't understand why his 2-1 was so late considering his 4th was suuuuuper delayed, was really weird.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
September 11 2017 12:58 GMT
#345
On September 11 2017 21:35 FlaShFTW wrote:
I will probably be doing an analysis video of the Stork Last game later today after work to try to figure out how stork won this game. I'll be trying to get esportsjohn to do it with me but analysis with 2 people generally is kinda tough to do. anyways, thanks everyone for coming and watching our stream! as usual, it's a ton of fun to be able to do this :D

No need to analyze it, it's obvious Stork won due to his innate awesomeness
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 11 2017 13:02 GMT
#346
Interesting info from K.H.J.

On September 11 2017 21:53 K.H.J wrote:
Today ASL4 Group B...

1. Stork said ' U key didnt activate while i was playing 1 set. So i cant use shuttle well.'

2. Light said ' it was me. yesterday, i changed hotkey U. '

3. But Stork use his own account, and his hotkey of shuttle drop is U key during his game. so...maybe is it bug?

The heart's eternal vow
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
September 11 2017 13:15 GMT
#347
Hey guys, this wont be streamed on youtube anymore? I lost yesterdays game and then got spoiled. I tried to go to the afreeca's site but you can't watch it on demand. It says "until next time". I found the vod on Afreeca but its the korean version and more importantly it keeps buffering. Now I don't want to get spoilers again and don't know how to look for this.

As Trump would say: sad.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
September 11 2017 13:17 GMT
#348
what the fuck last
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
September 11 2017 13:19 GMT
#349
On September 11 2017 22:02 PVJ wrote:
Interesting info from K.H.J.

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 21:53 K.H.J wrote:
Today ASL4 Group B...

1. Stork said ' U key didnt activate while i was playing 1 set. So i cant use shuttle well.'

2. Light said ' it was me. yesterday, i changed hotkey U. '

3. But Stork use his own account, and his hotkey of shuttle drop is U key during his game. so...maybe is it bug?


Yea I mentioned it earlier. Stork was saying how the U key wasn't there so he had to click on the wireframes separately to drop his units and because of that he wasn't able to micro his army.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 11 2017 13:21 GMT
#350
On September 11 2017 22:19 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 22:02 PVJ wrote:
Interesting info from K.H.J.

On September 11 2017 21:53 K.H.J wrote:
Today ASL4 Group B...

1. Stork said ' U key didnt activate while i was playing 1 set. So i cant use shuttle well.'

2. Light said ' it was me. yesterday, i changed hotkey U. '

3. But Stork use his own account, and his hotkey of shuttle drop is U key during his game. so...maybe is it bug?


Yea I mentioned it earlier. Stork was saying how the U key wasn't there so he had to click on the wireframes separately to drop his units and because of that he wasn't able to micro his army.

I missed that. Thanks for the details! That's very interesting and if true, problematic.

The heart's eternal vow
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
September 11 2017 13:29 GMT
#351
On September 11 2017 22:15 mcmascote wrote:
Hey guys, this wont be streamed on youtube anymore? I lost yesterdays game and then got spoiled. I tried to go to the afreeca's site but you can't watch it on demand. It says "until next time". I found the vod on Afreeca but its the korean version and more importantly it keeps buffering. Now I don't want to get spoilers again and don't know how to look for this.

As Trump would say: sad.


They're not streaming to YouTube, but they are uploading the games there afterward.

Here are today's games. Beware they were uploaded literally 1 minute ago, and I heard the video is lower resolution for a short time after it's uploaded.

Also it must be available on demand from Afreeca site, as I watched day 1 videos from there. But I can't find day 2 VODs. Currently it's "replaying" the matches. So maybe they put it up as a VOD after the rebroadcast ends.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 13:43:57
September 11 2017 13:42 GMT
#352
Links to games of Group B (english, korean, spanish) are uploaded in the Small VOD Thread.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
September 11 2017 14:06 GMT
#353
Beautiful last game from Stork. Thought he muffed it taking his fourth way too soon after losing the reaver so cheaply but what do I know?!

Last made a critcal error by sacrificing way too much to take out the 3 o'clock after killing Stork's nat. He would've been better containing him to his main imo and using smaller forces to poke at his expos. Think Last got a little cocky. I think maybe he didnt scout the 1 o'clock expo. Crucial error if so!
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 14:29:46
September 11 2017 14:27 GMT
#354
I just re-watched that part where Last goes to Stork's 3rd. It's actually _after_ Stork tries to push into Last's nat with his goons, yet the DT went unnoticed. It killed 4 tanks and weakened the other 4 as well, all which ended up being taken out by Stork.

The two vultures going scouting towards the 1 o'clock happens before Last's push and I do think he made an error or just a costly mistake not going up the ramp. You can check his vultures checking the nat but not the main of the 1 o'clock here at this timestamp.

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?t=6670&v=jrqsqrGlisc

On September 11 2017 23:06 RowdierBob wrote:
Thought he muffed it taking his fourth way too soon after losing the reaver so cheaply but what do I know?!

Actually that was something I feared for a second as well. When watching him play spons in the past couple of days he lost more than I can count to pushes while had not much of an army as he was over-expanding. Glad it worked out all good today!

Looking forward to the group selection!

On September 11 2017 22:42 Burned Toast wrote:
Links to games of Group B (english, korean, spanish) are uploaded in the Small VOD Thread.


Big thanks
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 11 2017 14:35 GMT
#355
Addendum: Here again a kettle of vultures go towards the 1 o'clock, see a pylon at the nat then turn around. I am trying to check if there was ever a scan from Last but it seems like he never figured out that an expansion was up and running there for Stork.

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?t=6877&v=jrqsqrGlisc
The heart's eternal vow
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
September 11 2017 15:12 GMT
#356
On September 11 2017 21:50 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 21:33 FlaShFTW wrote:
Last had 2/1 when he tried to take his 4th and had the double stasis go off near the bridge to his 4th where stork traded armies.


Last threw his lead the first time he pushed out over the bridge (leading to his main) after he was maxed. Both players were maxed but Stork had 4 bases and was taking his 5th. Last's edge in that scenario would have been to have an upgrade lead (wish he should have had) so he could roll Stork's army cost efficiently. Instead he only had 1-0 and decided to push out with his tanks exposed and no mine protection, he lost ~40 supply worth of tanks for free there. At that point Stork's eco kicked in again so he was able to just churn out gate units and keep the momentum.

I don't understand why Last would even consider moving out like that with just 1-0 and i don't understand why his 2-1 was so late considering his 4th was suuuuuper delayed, was really weird.


It was a good decision to move out, Stork invested heavily into reavers and his 4th was late. At that point they were pretty even on supply and sometimes it's a good decision to push out earlier instead of letting P have a chance of getting back in the game. Also he knew zealot speed wasn't going to finish soon. He did make a key mistake of losing all his tanks to kill a nexus which is not a good trade.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
September 11 2017 15:16 GMT
#357
nice power ranking teamliquid

Seriouslt what happened ? Did the other players just played well ? Do you guys think if it was BO1 Last would have made it out for sure ?
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empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
September 11 2017 15:16 GMT
#358
DinoToss FTW! <3
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
September 11 2017 16:03 GMT
#359
On September 12 2017 00:12 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 21:50 TT1 wrote:
On September 11 2017 21:33 FlaShFTW wrote:
Last had 2/1 when he tried to take his 4th and had the double stasis go off near the bridge to his 4th where stork traded armies.


Last threw his lead the first time he pushed out over the bridge (leading to his main) after he was maxed. Both players were maxed but Stork had 4 bases and was taking his 5th. Last's edge in that scenario would have been to have an upgrade lead (wish he should have had) so he could roll Stork's army cost efficiently. Instead he only had 1-0 and decided to push out with his tanks exposed and no mine protection, he lost ~40 supply worth of tanks for free there. At that point Stork's eco kicked in again so he was able to just churn out gate units and keep the momentum.

I don't understand why Last would even consider moving out like that with just 1-0 and i don't understand why his 2-1 was so late considering his 4th was suuuuuper delayed, was really weird.


It was a good decision to move out, Stork invested heavily into reavers and his 4th was late. At that point they were pretty even on supply and sometimes it's a good decision to push out earlier instead of letting P have a chance of getting back in the game. Also he knew zealot speed wasn't going to finish soon. He did make a key mistake of losing all his tanks to kill a nexus which is not a good trade.

I think TT1 was referring to the second push as Last was taking his 4th.
The first push was, as you said, a very good decision which should have ended the game or given him an insurmountable lead. The mistake with the tanks and, apparently a DT which did too much damage, cost Last the game.
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
September 11 2017 16:05 GMT
#360
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORK! FUCK YES! That was bloody amazing!
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