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DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
September 11 2017 16:23 GMT
#361
On September 11 2017 18:55 DinoToss wrote:
Hopefully Stork will show us some old magic.

I was right :D
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
September 11 2017 17:10 GMT
#362
On September 11 2017 23:06 RowdierBob wrote:
Beautiful last game from Stork. Thought he muffed it taking his fourth way too soon after losing the reaver so cheaply but what do I know?!

Last made a critcal error by sacrificing way too much to take out the 3 o'clock after killing Stork's nat. He would've been better containing him to his main imo and using smaller forces to poke at his expos. Think Last got a little cocky. I think maybe he didnt scout the 1 o'clock expo. Crucial error if so!

I have just re-watched the game. Last's push while had a huge tank count was very low on vulture. So army divide would have been a self suicide decision. We should remember that Stork had speed shuttle full of zealot and dark templar at this point.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
September 11 2017 17:17 GMT
#363
I'm very happy Stork made it! What a surprise!
I'm shocked Last is out... (was) top3 player in this tourney without a doubt, WOW!
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10155 Posts
September 11 2017 17:50 GMT
#364
On September 12 2017 00:16 Marou wrote:
nice power ranking teamliquid

Seriouslt what happened ? Did the other players just played well ? Do you guys think if it was BO1 Last would have made it out for sure ?

Last made a critical error in his game vs ssak where he had an air force designed to stop ssak's air fleet of dropships and moved them south for whatever reason right as ssak moved in from the north to drop. Instant gg
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Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 18:03:14
September 11 2017 18:01 GMT
#365
There's a Liquipedia screenshot under the "results" spoiler, but when I go to Liquipedia ASL4 page I see an empty Group B table.
Am I doing something wrong?
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 11 2017 19:01 GMT
#366
I knew Ssak would finish first. Either Last or Stork was going to get knocked out.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 11 2017 19:21 GMT
#367
I am so glad for sSak. I thought Stork would win group but sSak would get second.

So happy both of them made it out! Well deserved by both of them. Last is an amazing player, but he doesn't show up well enough to tournaments at all.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
September 11 2017 19:32 GMT
#368
On September 12 2017 03:01 Hatchet_man wrote:
There's a Liquipedia screenshot under the "results" spoiler, but when I go to Liquipedia ASL4 page I see an empty Group B table.
Am I doing something wrong?

I think whoever did the screenshot submitted the changes but they aren't accepted just yet which is why the live version is empty.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 11 2017 19:53 GMT
#369
Last feels like the Canata/Hery of modern bw. Online/practice room god, rarely shows up IRL.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
September 11 2017 20:02 GMT
#370
Very cool games. That last one was a treat.

Never imagined I would get to witness this level of SC once more!
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 21:27:00
September 11 2017 20:26 GMT
#371
On September 12 2017 00:12 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 21:50 TT1 wrote:
On September 11 2017 21:33 FlaShFTW wrote:
Last had 2/1 when he tried to take his 4th and had the double stasis go off near the bridge to his 4th where stork traded armies.


Last threw his lead the first time he pushed out over the bridge (leading to his main) after he was maxed. Both players were maxed but Stork had 4 bases and was taking his 5th. Last's edge in that scenario would have been to have an upgrade lead (wish he should have had) so he could roll Stork's army cost efficiently. Instead he only had 1-0 and decided to push out with his tanks exposed and no mine protection, he lost ~40 supply worth of tanks for free there. At that point Stork's eco kicked in again so he was able to just churn out gate units and keep the momentum.

I don't understand why Last would even consider moving out like that with just 1-0 and i don't understand why his 2-1 was so late considering his 4th was suuuuuper delayed, was really weird.


It was a good decision to move out, Stork invested heavily into reavers and his 4th was late. At that point they were pretty even on supply and sometimes it's a good decision to push out earlier instead of letting P have a chance of getting back in the game. Also he knew zealot speed wasn't going to finish soon. He did make a key mistake of losing all his tanks to kill a nexus which is not a good trade.


This is what I'm talking about:

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Last pushes out with 1-0 at a point in the game where he should have been 2-1 (considering how late his 4th was, how early his 3rd was and how late he pushed out).

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His decision to push out with 1-0 is already flawed.. but then he decides to push out over the bridges and expose his tanks with no mine support, his tanks are completely exposed.

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Stork trades out evenly in supply with Last (70 to 70 which obviously isnt good for Terran, he lost a ton of tanks) but he's taking his 5th at this point and already has all his gateways up. Last has to remake his tanks (which takes a long time) and he's reinforcing his army with weak upgrades. He should have been 2-1 when he pushed out and he should have been at least 3-1 by the time the later engagements happened. In any case after this exchange Stork has a huge lead, Last mined out his main and Stork was sitting on 5 bases.

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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
September 11 2017 20:27 GMT
#372
Amazing game, but I'm surprised people expected Ssak to qualify. I was expecting him to come 3-rd in this group.

Anyway, Stork just showed that a talent is for life! It's amazing how he wins the games with his strategic thinking. Only if he had a little better macro and multitasking, he would be unbeatable!
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
September 11 2017 20:27 GMT
#373
Man Stork looks STRONG. Can't believe he won that last game.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
September 11 2017 20:27 GMT
#374
Was really expecting Last and Stork coming out 1st and 2nd respectively, but anything can happen in BW!
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
September 11 2017 21:11 GMT
#375
It's interesting that before that battle on the bridge last was 1-0 in upgrades, while immediately after the battle finished he was 2-1 already. The upgrades kicked while the battle was going. Had he crossed the bridge 10 seconds later, we might have seen a different outcome there.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
September 11 2017 21:17 GMT
#376
last t_t
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 11 2017 21:27 GMT
#377
TBLS can't be beaten! Incredible engagements which made him to comeback. Stork never stops to amaze even after 10+ years. Now I want him on ro8.
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Salbahe
Profile Joined March 2017
Philippines18 Posts
September 11 2017 21:31 GMT
#378
STORKUUUU!!!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 21:45:53
September 11 2017 21:45 GMT
#379
Grats to sSak and Stork. I think Last has a mental block against sSak. It's likely not many people remember but sSak beat Last 3-2 in SSL10 finals despite Last having unstoppable TvT at the time and being up 2-1. Since then, sSak has had his number in several instances including last ASL and this one too.

As for the last game, wp by Stork. Despite losing his 2 nexi, he destroyed Last's army and rebuilt them right away. Last also never found that fourth base I believe so he might've thought it's 3 base vs 1 base at that point. From there, Stork took a great second engagement and thinned out Last's tank line and the rest was history with Stork having the base and eco advantage.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 11 2017 22:40 GMT
#380
No idea about TvP. From a TvZ standpoint, how far behind was stork? Like losing the third and then 20 marines camping in front of the FE behind?
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