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[ASL3] Ro8 Mong vs Shine - Page 15

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Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
May 16 2017 15:12 GMT
#281
for all the worrying zergs out there, hope springs eternal!
you just have to look to vods dating back in 2000 for strats
https://cinesnipe.com
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8575 Posts
May 16 2017 15:13 GMT
#282
I'm really impressed by Shine. He played way better than I expected. You could literally see how well he was prepared, even aside from the builds. His scouting, overlord placement, scout-denial etc. was very clean. That's why I love the Ro8 game onwards in leagues: Players come up with special builds, specifically created for players and maps they are up against. They study their opponent for weaknesses. And they up their game in general. So far the Ro8 has been a blast.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5167 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 15:22:16
May 16 2017 15:22 GMT
#283
[image loading]
FBH #1!
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 15:32:28
May 16 2017 15:26 GMT
#284
SHINE!! That was an amazing series he played, Bisu better be on his toes. I can't remember the last time I've seen such a carefully planned and prepared out series.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 15:54:25
May 16 2017 15:31 GMT
#285
Edit : After RO8, Shine said something in his stream( not interview )

" The strategies which i used today are made in 2012 to catch Flash in Tving OSL."

" I am really confident in vsBisu"

" The strategy which i used in 4set is extempore."

" I will show you what is the Real Starcraft in RO4 "

" My practice partners were Sharp and Rush. both 2 couldnt win against Guardian-Lurker-Hydra."

" I has 'strategy pocket'. more strategies are in pocket now."

Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5167 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 15:47:55
May 16 2017 15:47 GMT
#286
On May 17 2017 00:31 K.H.J wrote:
After RO8, Shine said

" The strategies which i used today are made in 2012 to catch Flash in Tving OSL."

" I am really confident in vsBisu"

" The strategy which i used in 4set is extempore."

" I will show you what is the Real Starcraft in RO4 "

" My practice partners were Sharp and Rush. both 2 couldnt win against Guardian-Lurker-Hydra."

" I has 'strategy pocket'. more strategies are in pocket now."


Thanks. (The Winner's interview always get covered in the English cast as well: Interview)
FBH #1!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 16 2017 15:48 GMT
#287
Shine just showed on stream a game on Outsider, believe it was the same strategy he had in mind for game 3.

Also, Bisu practicing hardcore with hero atm.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 16 2017 16:01 GMT
#288
Man what a sick series. Shine played that so well and his builds were fun to watch. Wonder what he'll have planned for the ro4...
When I think of something else, something will go here
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 16 2017 16:04 GMT
#289
On May 17 2017 01:01 blade55555 wrote:
Man what a sick series. Shine played that so well and his builds were fun to watch. Wonder what he'll have planned for the ro4...

I'm quite interested as well. Shine seems like he's someone who excels in these kind of series. It'll be interesting to see how far he can go.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
May 16 2017 16:09 GMT
#290
" I will show you what is the Real Starcraft in RO4 "

Oh shit it's on
ggaemo fan
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
May 16 2017 16:20 GMT
#291
Man, I'm loving all of these ASL games. They've just been absolute top notch quality. Proxy Nydus is the best.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
May 16 2017 16:23 GMT
#292
fine, good.
KTY
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
May 16 2017 16:45 GMT
#293
OMG Shine completely brainfucking his opponent, poor Mong didn't have a chance. What's Bisu going to do? Proxy isn't gonna work vs. cheese master. I can't even call his playstyle as cheese - this is high quality play, this is something different... Time to SHINE!
sunbeams are never made like me...
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 16:59:15
May 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#294
Bisu has used 2 gate a lot in recent PvZ series (Hero SSL9, Zero SSL 11(twice!), Hero SSL 11, Effort VNSL finals), even the cannon contain against Larva. I think he will use it at least once
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 16:59:30
May 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#295
On May 16 2017 20:58 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 20:39 BisuDagger wrote:
That was poor by Mong. When Bonyth was playing versus FBH he straight up killed the neutral buildings so tank drops couldn't harass his natural later in the game. If you don't kill the neutral buildings you MUST keep an eye on it. Mong deserved to lose that map after making such a rookie mistake unfortunately. That said, Shine played brilliantly in this series and in that game.


Lol, no. Don't compare PvT with TvZ. With terran in this critical period of the game you just don't go "oh i better defend against the fastest possible drone drop into proxy hatch nydus". Terran focuses on denying muta harrass/denying third/containing zerg/defending against lurk/lings.


He's playing against shine though. So I'd say it's even more relevant. He's had time to prepare, shines probably most famous game from before this ASL run was him beating flash with a Proxy nydus.

I'd say that Mong didn't do his homework or forgot it during these weird intense surprising games.

Not saying your point is wrong,just pointing out another factor in this, one that in my opinion actually makes a bigger difference.
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 17:24:39
May 16 2017 17:22 GMT
#296
On May 16 2017 20:50 phosphorylation wrote:
zerg is looking strong again with
shine
soulkey
jaedong
and
effort


Sadly I wouldn't put JD up there. Shine is his own rank( not because he's better or worse but because of his unique style)

Effort and Soulkey are top regular zergs alone atm imo.

JD still multitasks and macros like a beast but his decisionmaking and confidence needs a boost. As I see things I think his problem with trolls on stream could mean problem with adapting to this new scene with streaming as a mainlife and income. And he's had a break because of his wrist. Maybe he can't practice like before though he's got the work ethics for it.
JD:s max level is still the one zerg that can beat Flash imo. Maybe Soulkey is on his way to a new high as well though, could be another zerg up there. Effort was there, but my view on him is that he needs a better zerg meta to do 100%perfect macro and games of. But he's not the one who changes the meta.

We'll see how things go. Maybe shines guardians, hyuns island base stuff will change the tvz meta a bit
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
May 16 2017 17:33 GMT
#297
Returned to watching SC after 4 years; instant Shine fan. Those games were on another level.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4129 Posts
May 16 2017 17:35 GMT
#298
Why is everyone assuming that Flash is a given finalist? Going through Last and Soulkey does not look so free to me
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden307 Posts
May 16 2017 17:44 GMT
#299
Man, this Ro8 has had some amazingly entertaining games.

The games overall still feels more sloppy than they did during the prolegue era but my god are they still great and so fun!

Shines pure joy and happiness is such a treat as well, he looked so damn happy.

Great games, I am just loving this!
nah
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
May 16 2017 18:07 GMT
#300
I am officially a shine fan

I think he has what it takes to win the finals!
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
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