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[ASL3] Ro8 Mong vs Shine - Page 14

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 12:21:03
May 16 2017 12:20 GMT
#261
On May 16 2017 21:09 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 20:37 c3rberUs wrote:
A drop of sweat forms on Bisu's forehead.


His knees weak, palms sweaty


mom's spag-Destiny!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 16 2017 12:21 GMT
#262
On May 16 2017 21:17 EsportsJohn wrote:
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On May 16 2017 20:49 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:46 BigFan wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:45 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:42 Arrian wrote:
That was too much fun. Shine has to get past Bisu and probably Flash to walk the royal road, but what a story that would be.


Man, I think Flash is wayyyyy above Mong and give Shine almost no chance if he ever gets to face Flash but if he prepares some other sick strats and keep surprising everyone with innovative and solid play, and gets to win even just a game or two, that would be absolutely awesome. I'm counting on soulkey and shine at the moment for zvt.

agree. His build against Flash on Camelot was great, Flash is just really sick at defending and even he was forced to lift his main and evacuate for a while.


Was this on stream? I can't recall seeing flash play on camelot recently haha.




Somehow forgot about this, thanks buddy.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
May 16 2017 12:24 GMT
#263
It's 2017 and Shine is the best Zerg (until Soulkey win his match that is )
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 12:40:17
May 16 2017 12:31 GMT
#264
Bit of a side note, it's pretty easy as a viewer to say Mong should've done this or that. Shine just prepared really really well for all the games. Game 1, he goes for the lurker attack with a fake drop. As a terran, you have to defend against that. Mong should've left 1/3 of his army in the bunkers to at least dissuade Shine and then respond to it. If that drop was filled with lurkers and zerglings and his production was camped, he would've lost the game.

Game 2, Mong would've never suspected that Shine took his third base so fast instead of an inbase hatch. Yes, he scouted his main but it's hard to say what could be running in his mind. The drop did a ton of damage but it so happened that by then, Shine got enough to start his push. Mong also only had 1 port, he added another I think as he saw the guardians. Could've microed his wraith better but he was getting squeezed in and Shine was microing really damn well too. There's a reason that wraith are considered paper planes.

Game 4, sure, I agree that Mong should've kept an eye on the back of his base. Maybe break down the disrupters at the back but as mentioned, what are the chances of a proxy hatchery being placed there with a nydus? Anyways, I think Shine played to his strength and prepared well. Can't wait to see how he plays against Bisu. Shine fighting ~

On May 16 2017 20:49 Essbee wrote:
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On May 16 2017 20:46 BigFan wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:45 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:42 Arrian wrote:
That was too much fun. Shine has to get past Bisu and probably Flash to walk the royal road, but what a story that would be.


Man, I think Flash is wayyyyy above Mong and give Shine almost no chance if he ever gets to face Flash but if he prepares some other sick strats and keep surprising everyone with innovative and solid play, and gets to win even just a game or two, that would be absolutely awesome. I'm counting on soulkey and shine at the moment for zvt.

agree. His build against Flash on Camelot was great, Flash is just really sick at defending and even he was forced to lift his main and evacuate for a while.


Was this on stream? I can't recall seeing flash play on camelot recently haha.

ya, group A Ro16 with flash, shine, ggaemo and HyuN. They played on Camelot in winners' match. Shine had a really sick strat too, Flash was well Flash lol. Go check it out ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
May 16 2017 12:33 GMT
#265
On May 16 2017 21:02 TheNewEra wrote:
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On May 16 2017 20:58 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:40 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Jacenoob wrote:
ok I take it back, TvZ is balanced if the T side is a complete and utter idiot


"Joined August 2014"

What does it matter when a person joined? Don't be a BW elitist snob over a joining date lol.


People who complain about bw balance are people who has been watching bw for a few months, so yeah I am going to be a bw elitist snob, sorry about that.

On May 16 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Jacenoob wrote:
ok I take it back, TvZ is balanced if the T side is a complete and utter idiot

134 posts and joined in 2014. lol.

how much brood war have you watched again?

Disgusting attitude. I mean the creepiest thing got to be that someone has bothered to look up somebody's join date.

Tbf it's just a mouse hover about the username. Using it as an argument is silly tho.

Yeh, kinda...

But If you are an old school fan/player you know that the game isn't imbalanced. Slight tweaks on maps can make it favor one race over another. That shows how balanced the game is. If you are a new fan, nothing wrong about that, but should learn that it bothers people if you pollute game threads with posts whining about imbalances. Simply because you are wrong. Now, if you are an old school bw player and you still think the game isn't balanced then you probably learned over the years to keep that opinion to yourself or to discuss it only on the strategy section. That's why join date is an important factor.

I'm as anti-elitist as it can get but talks about imbalances irritate me. I'm sorry.
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2268 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 12:41:54
May 16 2017 12:36 GMT
#266
On May 16 2017 20:53 Essbee wrote:
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On May 16 2017 20:50 hitthat wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Jacenoob wrote:
ok I take it back, TvZ is balanced if the T side is a complete and utter idiot


"Joined August 2014"

What does it matter when a person joined? Don't be a BW elitist snob over a joining date lol.


Some people still believe that TL was the center of foreign BW since ever Xd


I never claimed this, but someone complaining about bw balance should prove my point without me having to say anything.

With a signature like "Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.", you should know better.


Well, you attacked him from a spot that made you look like an a-hole.
Also, as a long TL poster, you should know that ballance whining was here (and not only here) from a long time. Once I started follow regulary TL in early 2009 I already seen one in the peak of Zerg victories (Fantasy vs JD SPL final anyone? FBH bizzare wins with battlecruisers? Sea vs JD - one of the biggest traversity of balance whines?)

btw first time when I got even interested in TL was first TSL
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 12:54:13
May 16 2017 12:43 GMT
#267
On May 16 2017 20:58 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 20:40 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Essbee wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Jacenoob wrote:
ok I take it back, TvZ is balanced if the T side is a complete and utter idiot


"Joined August 2014"

What does it matter when a person joined? Don't be a BW elitist snob over a joining date lol.


People who complain about bw balance are people who has been watching bw for a few months, so yeah I am going to be a bw elitist snob, sorry about that.

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 16 2017 20:37 Jacenoob wrote:
ok I take it back, TvZ is balanced if the T side is a complete and utter idiot

134 posts and joined in 2014. lol.

how much brood war have you watched again?

Disgusting attitude. I mean the creepiest thing got to be that someone has bothered to look up somebody's join date.


Let's just say that I have nothing against elitism and that contrary to popular belief, I think elitism is a good thing. Why? Well, let's just say that when someone is an "elitist" about something, it usually means they have a passion about this certain thing and that they surely know a lot about said thing. And you know the cool thing about this? It allows people who do not know about the certain thing to learn about it from a person who is passionate and has a lot of experience with it, and I think that's awesome. I discovered new passions in my life because of other "elitists".

But when the new person who barely knows about the certain thing starts to want to change everything about it because he doesn't understand it or doesn't understand why the elitist like it, then the thing slowly start becoming something else, something that is going to be different from what the elitist originally liked.

It might be a disgusting attitude to you, but to me seeing noobs come here to try and change the game we have loved for 2 decades, THAT to me is more disgusting. Love <3

Btw no hard feeling to anyone
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
May 16 2017 12:43 GMT
#268
I believe in Shine! Old WeMade players fighting!
SUNSFANNED
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
May 16 2017 12:47 GMT
#269
that was soooo good to watch Shine 3-0 Bisu please
JD fanboy. #FPPS
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
May 16 2017 12:55 GMT
#270
Oh my god that was just a symphony of destruction
https://cinesnipe.com
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
May 16 2017 12:56 GMT
#271
Shine might be my new favourite zerg player. Game two in particular was brilliant.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 16 2017 13:01 GMT
#272
On May 16 2017 21:43 BrownBear wrote:
I believe in Shine! Old WeMade players fighting!


Dude! I remember you being one of the other WeMade fan :D

Good thing we've got our Shine back and in better shape than ever hehe
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
May 16 2017 13:28 GMT
#273
On May 16 2017 19:35 Arvendilin wrote:
How great would it be if SHINE ended this series with a proxy Nydus?

That would be my personal fanfiction lol


nailed it
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 13:41:08
May 16 2017 13:39 GMT
#274
holy fuck that was the most creative and entertaining zvt series i've ever seen

he had a build for every map

what he lacked in pure mechanical skills like jaedong, he made up for it with amazing builds

what a player, i hope he makes it to the finals
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elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden177 Posts
May 16 2017 13:48 GMT
#275
On May 16 2017 20:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 20:37 Jacenoob wrote:
ok I take it back, TvZ is balanced if the T side is a complete and utter idiot

134 posts and joined in 2014. lol.

how much brood war have you watched again?


I joined october 2010, Yet i started playing sc:bw around 98-99 and have been visiting this site since the beginning

Some people can live without replying to every post there is u know
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 16 2017 13:51 GMT
#276
If all the Shine love keeps up, we're just going to have to rename the BW tourney forum into "Shine Fanclub". He was awesome, and I'm super happy for him and I want him to win the whole thing, but...Bisu...Flash...
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
May 16 2017 13:54 GMT
#277
Just watched the vods and I am genuinely impressed. SHINE IS A GENIUS HOLY SHIT
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
May 16 2017 14:34 GMT
#278
i was cheering for shine going into the series because i wanted bisu to smash him in the ro4 for all the 2 hatch hydra busts that shine would do to knock bisu out of tournaments but now I'm a bit worried :o

amazing games regardless holy cow
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5198 Posts
May 16 2017 14:36 GMT
#279
Shine is coming for your ass, Bisu
FBH #1!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 16 2017 14:40 GMT
#280
On May 16 2017 22:51 Arrian wrote:
If all the Shine love keeps up, we're just going to have to rename the BW tourney forum into "Shine Fanclub". He was awesome, and I'm super happy for him and I want him to win the whole thing, but...Bisu...Flash...

Don't worry if he does win the whole thing, we'll probably have to rename the BW tourney forum into "<insert insult or swear here> Shine!".
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