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FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
June 12 2017 15:19 GMT
#501
On June 13 2017 00:16 supernovamaniac wrote:
Right, forgot that everything I see isnt actually everything.



all good man. <3 to you for your support with the series, and helping out with casts and whatnot. You're an awesome guy
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
June 12 2017 15:24 GMT
#502
On June 13 2017 00:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (T)JuNe 12 2017 23:52 ldv wrote:
On (T)JuNe 12 2017 23:51 (P)filthyrake wrote:
I *AM* discontinuing the (T)Filthy BW Cup due to the constant complaining of the foreign players.


And that's all she wrote. Thanks trutacz, eonzerg. Stay classy.

and i bet you are korean,tell me,are you ?

What the actual fuck does that have to do with anything? I'm nowhere near Korean.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
June 12 2017 15:39 GMT
#503
On June 13 2017 00:19 FilthyRake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 00:16 supernovamaniac wrote:
Right, forgot that everything I see isnt actually everything.



all good man. <3 to you for your support with the series, and helping out with casts and whatnot. You're an awesome guy

Hoping to get to work with you again someday! And thanks for everything.
ppp
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 15:41:58
June 12 2017 15:41 GMT
#504
Was a nice effort.

while I don't like the decision (I enjoyed watching the tourneys) I get it. Wouldn't want to deal with that shit either.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50587 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 15:45:01
June 12 2017 15:41 GMT
#505
I enjoyed this series and I hope you reconsider your decision in the future FilthyRake.

or if nothing else, just back some guy whos willing to carry on the torch.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 12 2017 16:04 GMT
#506
On June 13 2017 00:24 ldv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 00:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On (T)JuNe 12 2017 23:52 ldv wrote:
On (T)JuNe 12 2017 23:51 (P)filthyrake wrote:
I *AM* discontinuing the (T)Filthy BW Cup due to the constant complaining of the foreign players.


And that's all she wrote. Thanks trutacz, eonzerg. Stay classy.

and i bet you are korean,tell me,are you ?

What the actual fuck does that have to do with anything? I'm nowhere near Korean.


There might be 1% of DNA that matches to KR BW users. :D
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
June 12 2017 16:06 GMT
#507
On June 13 2017 01:04 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 00:24 ldv wrote:
On June 13 2017 00:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On (T)JuNe 12 2017 23:52 ldv wrote:
On (T)JuNe 12 2017 23:51 (P)filthyrake wrote:
I *AM* discontinuing the (T)Filthy BW Cup due to the constant complaining of the foreign players.


And that's all she wrote. Thanks trutacz, eonzerg. Stay classy.

and i bet you are korean,tell me,are you ?

What the actual fuck does that have to do with anything? I'm nowhere near Korean.


There might be 1% of DNA that matches to KR BW users. :D

I can feel my APM rising already.... =D
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 18:08:11
June 12 2017 16:10 GMT
#508

User was warned for this post
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
June 12 2017 16:13 GMT
#509
On June 13 2017 01:10 sas.Sziky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 23:51 FilthyRake wrote:
I mean, I really dont see the point in these discussions continuing.

I am *not* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to low player turnout.

I am *not* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to low viewership on stream.

I am *not* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to lack of money or resources.

I *AM* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to the constant complaining of the foreign players.


I'm really bummed about this. I wanted to keep these going through the release of Remastered, and put a lot of additional funds/effort behind growing it. I have Day[9] lined up and ready to cast some of these (dont worry, I'm gonna get him to cast one before we call it quits). I really wanted to make this work.

Sadly, the community made running these events *suck* for me, and its not like I was getting any return on this in the first place. Each of these events costs me $50-$100 to run (depending on how good people are about using matcherino codes), and I might make $1 in revenue from the stream. So if everyone wants to make me miserable, why bother wasting my time?

Now, as for my own involvement (and PSISTORM Gaming's) going forward in the BW/Remastered scene? It is too early to say. If the scene picks up, the team might sign a pro player to our roster. I can tell you one thing for certain, however. If we do, it wont be a foreign player.

Regarding the region locking on my SC2 tournaments. It is not super relevant to the discussion, honestly. I started those as region locked, in a time when there were just no NA tournaments. There are lots of them now, so I relaxed it from NA to "Americas", with 1 week in every 4 being completely open. I actually would love to remove all the region locking from the events, and it is something I've been thinking about for quite a while. I havent done it yet because, historically, my Global events have had double prize pools/etc.. and I am not sure if I would maintain that if every week is Global. There are also considerations with the sponsors of that event that have to be sorted out before I could make that decision.

In any event - these tours will continue through July 2nd. If you want to play in them in the meantime and get some free money, awesome - go nuts! Have fun! Just quit wasting my time with all the complaining.


[...] chingchangchung [...]


what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
June 12 2017 16:13 GMT
#510
On June 13 2017 01:10 sas.Sziky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 23:51 FilthyRake wrote:
I mean, I really dont see the point in these discussions continuing.

I am *not* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to low player turnout.

I am *not* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to low viewership on stream.

I am *not* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to lack of money or resources.

I *AM* discontinuing the Filthy BW Cup due to the constant complaining of the foreign players.


I'm really bummed about this. I wanted to keep these going through the release of Remastered, and put a lot of additional funds/effort behind growing it. I have Day[9] lined up and ready to cast some of these (dont worry, I'm gonna get him to cast one before we call it quits). I really wanted to make this work.

Sadly, the community made running these events *suck* for me, and its not like I was getting any return on this in the first place. Each of these events costs me $50-$100 to run (depending on how good people are about using matcherino codes), and I might make $1 in revenue from the stream. So if everyone wants to make me miserable, why bother wasting my time?

Now, as for my own involvement (and PSISTORM Gaming's) going forward in the BW/Remastered scene? It is too early to say. If the scene picks up, the team might sign a pro player to our roster. I can tell you one thing for certain, however. If we do, it wont be a foreign player.

Regarding the region locking on my SC2 tournaments. It is not super relevant to the discussion, honestly. I started those as region locked, in a time when there were just no NA tournaments. There are lots of them now, so I relaxed it from NA to "Americas", with 1 week in every 4 being completely open. I actually would love to remove all the region locking from the events, and it is something I've been thinking about for quite a while. I havent done it yet because, historically, my Global events have had double prize pools/etc.. and I am not sure if I would maintain that if every week is Global. There are also considerations with the sponsors of that event that have to be sorted out before I could make that decision.

In any event - these tours will continue through July 2nd. If you want to play in them in the meantime and get some free money, awesome - go nuts! Have fun! Just quit wasting my time with all the complaining.


Soon maybe:D im i will be other skill and u stop?t.t.t..t.t he JOKE ?:D But one thing. Foreigner never cant play asl,afreeca(of course i teach korean and go live korea simple :D) and idk what more event here korea(china when i play not remember tour name 10 hours need to fix and still high,extra high lat i was not happy :D) we have few events and small and i see one chingchangchung win all time? maybe bad and not truth. i understand scan A lot of time and energy and deserves it To get something There are possibilities him much more than foreigner. If you want to be fair or anyone There is no place korean for foreigner tournaments. If once bw gets attention as sc2 I would not care im rape all korean!!!! :D ok This is only 1 review Not to be outraged ! thxxx all That they were here I hope you will still be whatever will be glhfgg .


Wow, sziky. Are you for real right now?
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 12 2017 16:15 GMT
#511
Btw, SonStar is Korean, a semipro. His name is 최진영(Choi, Jinyoung/yeong).
He also made up to ASL Busan qualifiers finals, but lost to guemchi 2-1.

I believe he won 1 tour(very first tour?), but failed rest of the tours that he participated.
Quite not sure why he stopped playing, and no one was really complaining about him.

And I hear from a few people yelling at me that why I couldn't make it.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
June 12 2017 16:15 GMT
#512
On June 13 2017 00:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I enjoyed this series and I hope you reconsider your decision in the future FilthyRake.

or if nothing else, just back some guy whos willing to carry on the torch.


I may add some funding to Schamtoo's tour - I am undecided on that point right now, but I've been considering it. That said, it honestly just feels *bad* to support these guys right now, you know?
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
June 12 2017 16:18 GMT
#513
If anyone wonders why foreigners can't play at Korean levels or at least come close, direct them to this thread and show them the foreigner's mentality at this game.

Also, people should stop using the term "foreign pros", this is anything but "professional" mindset that any pro players should have.
ppp
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6782 Posts
June 12 2017 16:19 GMT
#514
Who is that ching chang chung ?
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 16:22:33
June 12 2017 16:20 GMT
#515
On June 12 2017 23:24 EndingLife wrote:
"Stop whining about winning and get better"
That sums it up pretty well. If you're complaining about one player being too good... Practice more? I don't think being born in Korea gives you a significant advantage, if any. Being able to practice the game for 12-15 hours a day will surely give you an advantage over the players who are only able to play a few hours a day. The reason Scan is so good compared to the others is due to the amount of practice he's put into the game. His understanding for the game, his game sense, his multitasking, his apm. 'Top foreigners' are behind Scan in every category listed above. How can you expect to win a game or a series of games vs a player who is WAY more mechanically sound than you? Rather than complaining about him being too good, how about work on your mechanics?


I used to be when I was young, but I am not taking that much of serious into the game and practicing massively.
Although if I can play with good players to practice with, I just do so.


Quantity>Quality If you want to specifically improve multitasking/optimizing and stuff.

Quality>Quantity If you want to MAINTAIN overall skill.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 18:07:31
June 12 2017 16:23 GMT
#516
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
June 12 2017 16:24 GMT
#517
On June 13 2017 01:23 sas.Sziky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2017 01:18 supernovamaniac wrote:
If anyone wonders why foreigners can't play at Korean levels or at least come close, direct them to this thread and show them the foreigner's mentality at this game.

Also, people should stop using the term "foreign pros", this is anything but "professional" mindset that any pro players should have.


sponsors me and u can see foreigner level and mentality

You've got it backwards. Nobody cares about whiny has beens until they prove they have the mentality to improve and become worth the money.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 16:28:26
June 12 2017 16:25 GMT
#518
On June 13 2017 01:18 supernovamaniac wrote:
If anyone wonders why foreigners can't play at Korean levels or at least come close, direct them to this thread and show them the foreigner's mentality at this game.

Also, people should stop using the term "foreign pros", this is anything but "professional" mindset that any pro players should have.


e-Sports cultural difference with mindset I would say.
In sports, they just have to improve without any disturbance. Just get better. Make a new record.

I even saw a YouTube video that one commentator was analyzing and telling stories why Koreans are so dominant in games.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
June 12 2017 16:25 GMT
#519
On June 13 2017 01:18 supernovamaniac wrote:
If anyone wonders why foreigners can't play at Korean levels or at least come close, direct them to this thread and show them the foreigner's mentality at this game.

Also, people should stop using the term "foreign pros", this is anything but "professional" mindset that any pro players should have.


please do not assume all foreigners are the same. i fucking hate this bitching for the last 4 years. this alone destroyed my fun with bw.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6782 Posts
June 12 2017 16:27 GMT
#520
On June 13 2017 01:18 supernovamaniac wrote:
If anyone wonders why foreigners can't play at Korean levels or at least come close, direct them to this thread and show them the foreigner's mentality at this game.

Also, people should stop using the term "foreign pros", this is anything but "professional" mindset that any pro players should have.

What pro players..We are just better than the average casual players yet still behind from korean semi pros...
and the word pro plays a role when you are getting paid for it.i dont think that even applies for Koreans right now witha fixed salary.
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