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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22132 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1181
On January 17 2017 21:09 BlackJack wrote:
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On January 17 2017 21:05 EatingBomber wrote:
Would I be wrong if I were to say that Jaedong's Mutalisks control was inadequate and failed to stall for enough time? Also, why did Jaedong tech to Hive so quickly (off just 2 gases)? Why not continue making Lurkers/Lings/Mutalisks? The Defiler barely did anything...


Would have been 3 base hive if he could keep an expo alive. That's pretty standard. 2 base lurker/ling/muta gets raped even easier than 2 base defiler. The game was over when Jaedong was unable to secure a 3rd.

Wouldn't teching a little slower allow him to macro more to delay Flash more?

Felt like JD just didn't have enough units on the map to slow Flash down.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1182
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God 3-0. It won't even be close.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1183
GG, sick series!

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BW invading Afreeca frontpage :D
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1184
Sad

One last time for this ASL. This one is for you JD!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1185
On January 17 2017 21:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
Tastosis saying FlaSh barely eeked out that win, but he smashed JD. cmon tastosis i know you want to hype it up but dude, it wasn't even close.

First game was a stomp JDs way, second game was flash, third game was flash, fourth game was jd doing the unthinkable, and the fifth game was flash just claiming his rightful first place.
The Bomber boy
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8646 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1186
On January 17 2017 21:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
Tastosis saying FlaSh barely eeked out that win, but he smashed JD. cmon tastosis i know you want to hype it up but dude, it wasn't even close.


Considering that we would have had a game if lurker aspect finished a few seconds earlier I think this statement is pretty accurate to be honest.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1187
Does Sea have a chance against Flash?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3451 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1188
No matter what I'm proud of my boy JD. Screw those who thought this was a 3-0 sweep.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
January 17 2017 12:12 GMT
#1189
TvT is not a matchup that I typically like.

but for finals, TvT is excellent, because the stakes are high.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19308 Posts
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1190
On January 17 2017 21:11 classicyellow83 wrote:
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On January 17 2017 21:10 BisuDagger wrote:
Rewatch the games here! http://afreeca.tv/36833823/v/57797

Great Job today. =)

Thank you! It's so much fun to cast FvJ. What awesome games!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1191
News flash! TvT hasn't been boring for several years now. It's rarely a long slow map split nowadays.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1192
The sheep still have their heads
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1193
On January 17 2017 21:08 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
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On January 17 2017 21:08 Vuk_91 wrote:
When JD busted Flash's defense in the main, he should have canceled the third, build 5 sunks at his natural, and try to do as much damage with Mutas as possible.


I agree.


That would have put him even more behind. 5 rax pumps out marines quite quickly Flash just has to wait for 1 group for mnm to take back his main and JD would have cancelled his 3rd for a few scvs and maybe depots?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1194
Thank you all for posting on TL and being good sports. This was really fun!

See you on super sunday!
The Bomber boy
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 12:14:09
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1195
On January 17 2017 21:13 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 21:11 classicyellow83 wrote:
On January 17 2017 21:10 BisuDagger wrote:
Rewatch the games here! http://afreeca.tv/36833823/v/57797

Great Job today. =)

Thank you! It's so much fun to cast FvJ. What awesome games!

Since I'm Korean I only tune into Korean Streams but I tried yours today. I like it. Do you have Youtube channel?
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
kiero
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada136 Posts
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1196
On January 17 2017 21:10 BisuDagger wrote:
Rewatch the games here! http://afreeca.tv/36833823/v/57797


Is there a way to see your other casts without a direct link? I think I prefer your casting over Tastosis, but I didn't even realize you could watch non-live videos until just now.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5060 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 12:15:02
January 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#1197
On January 17 2017 21:12 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 21:09 BlackJack wrote:
On January 17 2017 21:05 EatingBomber wrote:
Would I be wrong if I were to say that Jaedong's Mutalisks control was inadequate and failed to stall for enough time? Also, why did Jaedong tech to Hive so quickly (off just 2 gases)? Why not continue making Lurkers/Lings/Mutalisks? The Defiler barely did anything...


Would have been 3 base hive if he could keep an expo alive. That's pretty standard. 2 base lurker/ling/muta gets raped even easier than 2 base defiler. The game was over when Jaedong was unable to secure a 3rd.

Wouldn't teching a little slower allow him to macro more to delay Flash more?

Felt like JD just didn't have enough units on the map to slow Flash down.

But that's what happens. Zerg is always down in economy and food count for most of the game untill lategame or if you want a streak of engagements in the middle of the map. You need to establish an economy (3rd and 4th base) and tech to hive while the T pumps out vessels, tanks and mnm, while maybe transitioning to tech. It's really difficult to hold as a Z I think. It wasn't rare to see, not only when Flash dominated, for Terrans to straight up kill Zergs trying to get up their third base by breaking the lurkers of their timing being just a little bit too fast for the Z.
Taxes are for Terrans
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
January 17 2017 12:14 GMT
#1198
Good series, just too bad Jaedong couldnt win it. But it went better than expected.
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8646 Posts
January 17 2017 12:14 GMT
#1199
On January 17 2017 21:12 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 21:09 BlackJack wrote:
On January 17 2017 21:05 EatingBomber wrote:
Would I be wrong if I were to say that Jaedong's Mutalisks control was inadequate and failed to stall for enough time? Also, why did Jaedong tech to Hive so quickly (off just 2 gases)? Why not continue making Lurkers/Lings/Mutalisks? The Defiler barely did anything...


Would have been 3 base hive if he could keep an expo alive. That's pretty standard. 2 base lurker/ling/muta gets raped even easier than 2 base defiler. The game was over when Jaedong was unable to secure a 3rd.

Wouldn't teching a little slower allow him to macro more to delay Flash more?

Felt like JD just didn't have enough units on the map to slow Flash down.


Again, he wanted to skip his lurker tech and changed his mind when he spotted the 5 rax. You can't skip lurkers against 5 rax.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 17 2017 12:14 GMT
#1200
On January 17 2017 21:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
Tastosis saying FlaSh barely eeked out that win, but he smashed JD. cmon tastosis i know you want to hype it up but dude, it wasn't even close.

The problem is that you watched Tastosis casting brood war.
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