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On January 03 2017 19:45 Letmelose wrote:
ZeuS's analysis.
1) heRO notices BeSt likes gateway into expansion -> wants to kill it with 9 pool speedlings.
2) BeSt does 1 base play which nullifies the threat of 9 pool speedlings, and has the advantage
3) herO makes 2 hydralisks to stop the corsairs. If he were going lurkers, he would have made more. BeSt should have predicted mutalisks in advance.
4) BeSt should have noticed the hydralisk count, so shouldn't have gone for robotics bay. Going for the natural was the right choice.
5) BeSt goes for speed zealots, which is okay against 2 base 3 hatchery play, but not against fast tech 2 hatchery play.
6) BeSt goes for the rush anyways, but herO doesn't see the speed zealots coming and loses tons of drones, which shouldn't happen considering he went for 2 hatchery play which is already low on drone count.
7) BeSt secures his natural and wins the game.
It seems neither play had a clear idea what was going on, and BeSt came out on top of this clown fiesta (which may be what he was aiming for, rather than a pre-planned build that had every variable in mind).
Best did cancel the robo in that game though, so seems like he figured out what was going on.
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On January 03 2017 20:05 neilmellor wrote:
Even jaedong and hero can not beat Best and we all know Bisu is even better vs. Zerg. A new era for P v Z?
calm down,god is awake now ^^
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On January 03 2017 20:03 Letmelose wrote:
Woah, I was listening to the commentary of Jaedong, and Stork, but ZeuS has way better insight than both of them combined. I mean, even these guys, both of whom representing their race since what seems like forever, had little clue about all the intricacies that happened in the first game. Old school players, like ZeuS, who witnessed the entire evolution of the scene for nearly two decades, and watched exactly why certain builds died out, and why current concepts were created have so much better understanding the game.
Respect to Jun Tae-gyu
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We finally need SB in open beta...or BW HD ...i wanna play with no lag pleaseeee!!!
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On January 03 2017 20:00 LittLeLives wrote:So, who's locking in their Liquibet for GuemChi? 
A bridge too far, even with the Upset Karma goin' on now.
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Never done Liquibet before. Lemmie vote now.
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On January 03 2017 20:06 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2017 19:45 Letmelose wrote:
ZeuS's analysis.
1) heRO notices BeSt likes gateway into expansion -> wants to kill it with 9 pool speedlings.
2) BeSt does 1 base play which nullifies the threat of 9 pool speedlings, and has the advantage
3) herO makes 2 hydralisks to stop the corsairs. If he were going lurkers, he would have made more. BeSt should have predicted mutalisks in advance.
4) BeSt should have noticed the hydralisk count, so shouldn't have gone for robotics bay. Going for the natural was the right choice.
5) BeSt goes for speed zealots, which is okay against 2 base 3 hatchery play, but not against fast tech 2 hatchery play.
6) BeSt goes for the rush anyways, but herO doesn't see the speed zealots coming and loses tons of drones, which shouldn't happen considering he went for 2 hatchery play which is already low on drone count.
7) BeSt secures his natural and wins the game.
It seems neither play had a clear idea what was going on, and BeSt came out on top of this clown fiesta (which may be what he was aiming for, rather than a pre-planned build that had every variable in mind). Best did cancel the robo in that game though, so seems like he figured out what was going on.
He canceled the robo when he saw the mutas, not when he saw the hydra count
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Poll: Recommend game 2?yes (23) 85% no (4) 15% 27 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 2? (Vote): yes
(Vote): no
Poll: Recommend game 1?yes (25) 89% no (3) 11% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 1? (Vote): yes
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Hm, BD just spoke about the most memorial 3-0 comback after being down 0-2. He said Effort vs Flash. For me it's probably Jaedong vs Fantasy. The games were much better and much more exciting for me.
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On January 03 2017 20:09 c3rberUs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2017 20:06 [[Starlight]] wrote:On January 03 2017 19:45 Letmelose wrote:
ZeuS's analysis.
1) heRO notices BeSt likes gateway into expansion -> wants to kill it with 9 pool speedlings.
2) BeSt does 1 base play which nullifies the threat of 9 pool speedlings, and has the advantage
3) herO makes 2 hydralisks to stop the corsairs. If he were going lurkers, he would have made more. BeSt should have predicted mutalisks in advance.
4) BeSt should have noticed the hydralisk count, so shouldn't have gone for robotics bay. Going for the natural was the right choice.
5) BeSt goes for speed zealots, which is okay against 2 base 3 hatchery play, but not against fast tech 2 hatchery play.
6) BeSt goes for the rush anyways, but herO doesn't see the speed zealots coming and loses tons of drones, which shouldn't happen considering he went for 2 hatchery play which is already low on drone count.
7) BeSt secures his natural and wins the game.
It seems neither play had a clear idea what was going on, and BeSt came out on top of this clown fiesta (which may be what he was aiming for, rather than a pre-planned build that had every variable in mind). Best did cancel the robo in that game though, so seems like he figured out what was going on. He canceled the robo when he saw the mutas, not when he saw the hydra count
Ok, that was late, yes. 
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~60k viewers across all streams. Woop!
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man, i missed tastosis commentary.
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On January 03 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:
Hm, BD just spoke about the most memorial 3-0 comback after being down 0-2. He said Effort vs Flash. For me it's probably Jaedong vs Fantasy. The games were much better and much more exciting for me.
Yeah but in JD vs fantasy people never stopped believing in JD.
No one in their right mind ever expected Effort to win three times in a row vs Flash, no matter what.
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On January 03 2017 20:12 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:
Hm, BD just spoke about the most memorial 3-0 comback after being down 0-2. He said Effort vs Flash. For me it's probably Jaedong vs Fantasy. The games were much better and much more exciting for me. Yeah but in JD vs fantasy people never stopped believing in JD. No one in their right mind ever expected Effort to win three times in a row vs Flash, no matter what.
for me it was gorush vs nada from the iops osl semi-finals
how nada won the 3rd set on dream of balhae, i'll never figure out.
when i was talking to gorush at artosis' christmas party in 2015 i kept ribbing him about it and all he could say was 'nada is just god'
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On January 03 2017 20:12 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:
Hm, BD just spoke about the most memorial 3-0 comback after being down 0-2. He said Effort vs Flash. For me it's probably Jaedong vs Fantasy. The games were much better and much more exciting for me. Yeah but in JD vs fantasy people never stopped believing in JD. No one in their right mind ever expected Effort to win three times in a row vs Flash, no matter what.
Yeah right. Maybe it's just me because I didn't really care at all about the Flash vs Effort finals either way.
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man I wake up to 2-0 scores all the time lately, pls give me more games t.t
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On January 03 2017 20:14 Warfie wrote:
man I wake up to 2-0 scores all the time lately, pls give me more games t.t
yeah, it especially sucks to see the end of such a series when you could have watched all of it on your own and been surprised by the VODs
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On January 03 2017 20:10 Miragee wrote:
Hm, BD just spoke about the most memorial 3-0 comback after being down 0-2. He said Effort vs Flash. For me it's probably Jaedong vs Fantasy. The games were much better and much more exciting for me.
NaDa versus GoRush IOPS OGN StarLeague. 6th most viewed series in the history of televised Starcraft. That game on Dream of Balhae. The greatest player to ever touch the mouse and keyboard accomplishes his third ever reverse-sweep (the most in history).
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