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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 03 2017 11:00 GMT
#141
Ok i understand it now, it is destiny. Best to get into the finals to lose to JD there. Amazing
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
January 03 2017 11:00 GMT
#142
So, who's locking in their Liquibet for GuemChi?
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 03 2017 11:00 GMT
#143
On January 03 2017 20:00 Dante08 wrote:
If Hero had defended that DT drop he might have had a chance lol

No he wouldn't have. He had no drones.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
January 03 2017 11:00 GMT
#144
amazing play.
great build orders
impeccable micro

and of course, beastly macro

Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
January 03 2017 11:01 GMT
#145
On January 03 2017 19:59 Waxangel wrote:
Gross, KR casters are pushing the "the return of TBLS has pushed the others to become even stronger!" narrative T_T


Is it wrong though? Flash being around for example has made Sea play a hell of a lot better since he's so far ahead of everyone else. It's also pushed the zergs to get better at ZvT and toss at PvT purely to beat Flash. The same thing happened with Bisu.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
January 03 2017 11:01 GMT
#146
On January 03 2017 19:59 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2017 19:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
oh man wtf,dont do this to me,how cna u miss that dt drop observer...

HEHEHE Shine is the observer.


LOL That's so good after Letmelose said Shine is bad at lategame management just yesterday. xD
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
January 03 2017 11:01 GMT
#147
On January 03 2017 19:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
zvp god =)


Apparently not today.


User was warned for being hilarious
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33713 Posts
January 03 2017 11:01 GMT
#148
On January 03 2017 20:01 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2017 19:59 Waxangel wrote:
Gross, KR casters are pushing the "the return of TBLS has pushed the others to become even stronger!" narrative T_T


Is it wrong though? Flash being around for example has made Sea play a hell of a lot better since he's so far ahead of everyone else. It's also pushed the zergs to get better at ZvT and toss at PvT purely to beat Flash. The same thing happened with Bisu.


ahhh I just hate the diminishing of everyone and everything else, just because TBLS have come back and dominated the spotlight -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 03 2017 11:01 GMT
#149
This is some crazy good build prep by best. Completely pulled one over Hero.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 03 2017 11:02 GMT
#150
This is why I was saying last week that BeSt will beat hero. What a cool set of games thus far, I love it. One more left, BeSt, gogogogo!
The heart's eternal vow
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 03 2017 11:02 GMT
#151
man I always wanted to see best do well PvZ I'm so happy
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 03 2017 11:02 GMT
#152
BeSt dominating (aka raping) hero today! Flawless execution. My god...
sunbeams are never made like me...
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 03 2017 11:02 GMT
#153
On January 03 2017 20:01 neobowman wrote:
This is some crazy good build prep by best. Completely pulled one over Hero.

Plus good execution and decision making.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10622 Posts
January 03 2017 11:02 GMT
#154
On January 03 2017 20:00 LittLeLives wrote:
So, who's locking in their Liquibet for GuemChi?

stop... please no more
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
January 03 2017 11:03 GMT
#155
Woah, I was listening to the commentary of Jaedong, and Stork, but ZeuS has way better insight than both of them combined. I mean, even these guys, both of whom representing their race since what seems like forever, had little clue about all the intricacies that happened in the first game. Old school players, like ZeuS, who witnessed the entire evolution of the scene for nearly two decades, and watched exactly why certain builds died out, and why current concepts were created have so much better understanding the game.
TL+ Member
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
January 03 2017 11:03 GMT
#156
Don't fuck with a Dragon, yes?

User was warned for being hilarious
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
January 03 2017 11:03 GMT
#157
On January 03 2017 20:01 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2017 20:01 Qikz wrote:
On January 03 2017 19:59 Waxangel wrote:
Gross, KR casters are pushing the "the return of TBLS has pushed the others to become even stronger!" narrative T_T


Is it wrong though? Flash being around for example has made Sea play a hell of a lot better since he's so far ahead of everyone else. It's also pushed the zergs to get better at ZvT and toss at PvT purely to beat Flash. The same thing happened with Bisu.


ahhh I just hate the diminishing of everyone and everything else, just because TBLS have come back and dominated the spotlight -_-


TBLS without a doubt were the strongest players for a very long time. It was only right at the end of Brood War (professional) that FanTaSy started to overtake Flash and Jangbi got closer to beating Stork. Jaedong was unbeaten at the top imo.

Without a doubt they're going to build on this to try and bring the spotlight back to Broodwar. It's the best way they have of promoting it all. TBLS, The heroes of prior are back in Broodwar, everyone come watch! (for example)
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 03 2017 11:04 GMT
#158
On January 03 2017 20:02 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2017 20:00 LittLeLives wrote:
So, who's locking in their Liquibet for GuemChi?

stop... please no more


ASL Season 2 finals. Guemchi beats Sea 3-0
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-03 11:06:33
January 03 2017 11:04 GMT
#159
On January 03 2017 20:03 Letmelose wrote:
Woah, I was listening to the commentary of Jaedong, and Stork, but ZeuS has way better insight than both of them combined. I mean, even these guys, both of whom representing their race since what seems like forever, had little clue about all the intricacies that happened in the first game. Old school players, like ZeuS, who witnessed the entire evolution of the scene for nearly two decades, and watched exactly why certain builds died out, and why current concepts were created have so much better understanding the game.

Zeus is the best at analyzing games. Flash even said even though Zeus isn't a good player he has perfect understanding of the current meta.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
neilmellor
Profile Joined December 2010
China49 Posts
January 03 2017 11:05 GMT
#160
Even jaedong and hero can not beat Best and we all know Bisu is even better vs. Zerg. A new era for P v Z?
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