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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 11:10:44
December 11 2016 11:09 GMT
#101
Wow... that was over quickly. Soulkey's looking good early, and then... BOOM. Flash is Flash. =o

Quick night for him. Packs up, and he's outttta there.

User was warned for being hilarious
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 11 2016 11:10 GMT
#102
Damn, I wanted a long game
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 11 2016 11:10 GMT
#103
On December 11 2016 20:08 Heartland wrote:
Would Soulkey have done better if he flanked the bio attack group with his lurkers instead?



He would've crushed it if he ran in with them when Flash was attacking the sunkens.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 11 2016 11:10 GMT
#104
On December 11 2016 20:08 DwD wrote:
That was a really dumb lurker counter attack. He would've stopped that push easily if he had those at his home base.


He learned that from SC2. Rather base race than defend. Guess what, BW has something called defenders advantage.
Archaeo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States397 Posts
December 11 2016 11:10 GMT
#105
Soulkey...why? Shouldn't have tried any weird antics, you're good enough to take on Flash if you play standard.
Yo my chingu!!!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 11 2016 11:11 GMT
#106
FlaSh returned the favor with how the last time they met went down
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 11 2016 11:11 GMT
#107
On December 11 2016 20:09 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... that was over quickly. Soulkey's looking good early, and then... BOOM. Flash is Flash. =o

Quick night for him. Packs up, and he's outttta there.



It was more about Soulkey being kwanro than about Flash being Flash. Flash honestly didn't impress me today. He was solid and that's it.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 11 2016 11:11 GMT
#108
That was over in a....(T)Flash

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eekmice
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States373 Posts
December 11 2016 11:11 GMT
#109
On December 11 2016 20:08 Heartland wrote:
Would Soulkey have done better if he flanked the bio attack group with his lurkers instead?


I was watching the bisu stream and he said that it was a tough decision.

Yes his lurkers would've killed the initial army but does soulkey really want to go into a late game scenario against flash? If his 3 sunkens came up earlier he would've 100% won the game.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
December 11 2016 11:12 GMT
#110
On December 11 2016 20:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
That was over in a....(T)Flash



Congratulations to the birth of your child.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4141 Posts
December 11 2016 11:12 GMT
#111
On December 11 2016 20:08 Heartland wrote:
Would Soulkey have done better if he flanked the bio attack group with his lurkers instead?


That was just a very good attack from Flash and sort of an all-in from Soulkey. No point leaving 2 lurkers at home.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 11 2016 11:12 GMT
#112
On December 11 2016 20:11 eekmice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 20:08 Heartland wrote:
Would Soulkey have done better if he flanked the bio attack group with his lurkers instead?


I was watching the bisu stream and he said that it was a tough decision.

Yes his lurkers would've killed the initial army but does soulkey really want to go into a late game scenario against flash?

yes?

literally anything was better than what he did
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6833 Posts
December 11 2016 11:13 GMT
#113
On December 11 2016 20:11 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 20:09 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... that was over quickly. Soulkey's looking good early, and then... BOOM. Flash is Flash. =o

Quick night for him. Packs up, and he's outttta there.



It was more about Soulkey being kwanro than about Flash being Flash. Flash honestly didn't impress me today. He was solid and that's it.

flash is always solid and thats it.while others are 1 time brilliant and thats it .
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 11 2016 11:13 GMT
#114
On December 11 2016 20:07 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 20:06 -NegativeZero- wrote:
remember that regardless of it's popularity in korea itself, pro bw wasn't nearly as well known outside of korea as pro sc2, so the majority of their potential viewers will know sc2 better - the dedicated bw fans who already know the game extremely well just aren't the target audience here

Can we not do this?

It's incredibly boring.

Maybe you should tell the others that actually started complainting and not the guy that responds and reasonably explains why the commentators talk about SC2. But i agree - its boring.
eekmice
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States373 Posts
December 11 2016 11:14 GMT
#115
On December 11 2016 20:12 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 20:11 eekmice wrote:
On December 11 2016 20:08 Heartland wrote:
Would Soulkey have done better if he flanked the bio attack group with his lurkers instead?


I was watching the bisu stream and he said that it was a tough decision.

Yes his lurkers would've killed the initial army but does soulkey really want to go into a late game scenario against flash?

yes?

literally anything was better than what he did


If his 3 sunkens came up 5s earlier and his lings blocked the push you would've called him a genius. it was a split second decision and it didn't work.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 11:14:39
December 11 2016 11:14 GMT
#116
On December 11 2016 20:11 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 20:09 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... that was over quickly. Soulkey's looking good early, and then... BOOM. Flash is Flash. =o

Quick night for him. Packs up, and he's outttta there.



It was more about Soulkey being kwanro than about Flash being Flash. Flash honestly didn't impress me today. He was solid and that's it.

Think it says something about Flash's macro and late game strength that someone as good as Soulkey was apparently scared into doing a suicide all-in.




User was warned for being hilarious
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 11 2016 11:14 GMT
#117
On December 11 2016 19:54 [[Starlight]] wrote:
The Twitch stream commentary is so annoying. How many different ways can they work SC2 into the conversation?

"SC2 has taught players SO MUCH MORE about how to play SC1!!!"

Wait, what?? Derp. o_0



See this is why people hate BW circle jerkers so much. Artosis said that playing SC2 has made the best BW players better at some aspects of broodwar. If you think that isn't true, well you're just wrong. SC2 is an easier mechanical game allowing players to focus more on strategy, tactics, creativity and other aspects. They bring what they've been able to do in SC2 back to BW and combine that with the higher mechanical demands they are doing and they are better players. It's the same as the chess analogy. You don't learn how to click faster or how to use control groups but you do learn how to plan for the future 20 moves in advance.

Soulkey didn't win his game against Movie because he played better mechanically, he won because he used a creative strategy, that literally looked exactly like a 2012-2013 SC2 build. Get over yourself, watch a different stream and stop trying to keep your nostalgic "pure, bw is the only Starcraft ever crap to yourself."
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
December 11 2016 11:15 GMT
#118
What Flash won already? Damnit I went to make some coffee is it really over?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 11 2016 11:16 GMT
#119
On December 11 2016 20:15 lastride wrote:
What Flash won already? Damnit I went to make some coffee is it really over?


Soulkey went full "This is Flash, im fucked"
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 11 2016 11:16 GMT
#120
On December 11 2016 20:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 20:11 Miragee wrote:
On December 11 2016 20:09 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... that was over quickly. Soulkey's looking good early, and then... BOOM. Flash is Flash. =o

Quick night for him. Packs up, and he's outttta there.



It was more about Soulkey being kwanro than about Flash being Flash. Flash honestly didn't impress me today. He was solid and that's it.

flash is always solid and thats it.while others are 1 time brilliant and thats it .


Flash used to be always brilliant and that's it. Or solidness pushed to over 9000. If this was 2009 or something he would have killed Terror with his first group of marines easily. Because that's what he did to almost every zerg back then.
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