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On December 11 2016 21:04 DwD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 21:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: do u think zerg winning all game long then this race we all know decides to do an 1a 2a 3a and zerg is dead ... Oh come on. You are acting like Soulkey did everything perfect. That was a clown game
We've seen a lot of clown games at ASL2 so far...
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On December 11 2016 21:00 reminisce12 wrote: i dont get it why was sk only making lings? He was always low on gas?
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On December 11 2016 21:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: do u think zerg winning all game long then this race we all know decides to do an 1a 2a 3a and zerg is dead ...
When you start to say such nonsense it's time to stop posting.
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Japan11285 Posts
On December 11 2016 21:05 tanngard wrote: I have never experienced a darker time for zerg...and zero not competing despite him just winning Thrill starleague.. I hope Zero join in on the next one, because he is sorely needed. Yeah, it was usually protoss who had a really hard time pre-revolution
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On December 11 2016 21:02 Miragee wrote:Yeah? Soulkey just didn't play very good. I mean Movie didn't play great, either, but he was mostly solid. I have never been a fan of this "turtle all the way into late game" style by zerg. It doesn't work very well because protoss has all the time in the world to expand (which movie didn't) and get a sick reaver/storm/archon army up and running.
Turtling was pretty necessary given that Movie had a lot of gateways off two base. In fact, that's the usual reaction ZvP if you see that protoss is delaying their third. It was reactionary, he couldn't play any other way. Hence, the 1000 sunkens to defend.
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On December 11 2016 21:03 Maks wrote: so much pressure on jaedong and by.hero now Wouldn't it be funny if Jaedong was the only Zerg in the Ro16, and yet he took the whole thing?
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Two hours early for the final Ro24 group. Because they are doing group selection right after. Confirmed by Artosis/Rapid.
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On December 11 2016 21:08 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 21:03 Maks wrote: so much pressure on jaedong and by.hero now Wouldn't it be funny if Jaedong was the only Zerg in the Ro16, and yet he took the whole thing? Would be the most anime ending for ASL2
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How did SK run out of gas when he was on 4 base? Even though all the drones died at one shouldn't he at least have had enough to make more than 5 mutas?
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Bisutopia19152 Posts
Posting this in case zerg wanted some good news for a change:
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On December 11 2016 21:07 Archaeo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 21:02 Miragee wrote:On December 11 2016 20:59 Archaeo wrote: I despise protoss so much... Yeah? Soulkey just didn't play very good. I mean Movie didn't play great, either, but he was mostly solid. I have never been a fan of this "turtle all the way into late game" style by zerg. It doesn't work very well because protoss has all the time in the world to expand (which movie didn't) and get a sick reaver/storm/archon army up and running. Turtling was pretty necessary given that Movie had a lot of gateways off two base. In fact, that's the usual reaction ZvP if you see that protoss is delaying their third. It was reactionary, he couldn't play any other way. Hence, the 1000 sunkens to defend. Soulkey was Trump in that game.
"We gonna build a BEAUTIFUL SUNKEN WALL!!! And the PROTOSS are gonna PAY FOR IT!"
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On December 11 2016 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Maybe BW needs a balance patch ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) This is not normal. Take a look: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Leagues/Post-KeSPA_Tournaments
I think its also the snowball effect that when fewer and fewer zergs qualify the more pressure on the remaining zergs. That pressure can make you lose sleep and get to the best of us.
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Japan11285 Posts
On December 11 2016 21:10 BisuDagger wrote:Posting this in case zerg wanted some good news for a change: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/u4rrgqM.png) His performance last Sunday may have suffered a bit due to this though. But I am happy for him.
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On December 11 2016 21:07 Archaeo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 21:02 Miragee wrote:On December 11 2016 20:59 Archaeo wrote: I despise protoss so much... Yeah? Soulkey just didn't play very good. I mean Movie didn't play great, either, but he was mostly solid. I have never been a fan of this "turtle all the way into late game" style by zerg. It doesn't work very well because protoss has all the time in the world to expand (which movie didn't) and get a sick reaver/storm/archon army up and running. Turtling was pretty necessary given that Movie had a lot of gateways off two base. In fact, that's the usual reaction ZvP if you see that protoss is delaying their third. It was reactionary, he couldn't play any other way. Hence, the 1000 sunkens to defend.
exactly this. it's clearly evident that some people haven't played even b-c iccup/pgt level. soulkey scouted all the possible expos and movie only had 2 bases. wtf do you think he's doing? building probes? he's doing a fucking one big army timing push to secure his 3rd with hts and a few zeals.
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On December 11 2016 21:08 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 21:03 Maks wrote: so much pressure on jaedong and by.hero now Wouldn't it be funny if Jaedong was the only Zerg in the Ro16, and yet he took the whole thing?
Wasn't there an OSL where Reach was the only Protoss in the Ro16?
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Lots of Protoss! And they say BW is different than SC2! Not so much, it would seem! But seriously folks... Awesome to see Flash going through! Hoping Jaedong can do the same when him time comes.
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United States11390 Posts
On December 11 2016 21:05 tanngard wrote: I have never experienced a darker time for zerg...and zero not competing despite him just winning Thrill starleague.. I hope Zero join in on the next one, because he is sorely needed. ?
Zero would just choke and fail like he always does.
Zerg has been godawful and irrelevant without Killer.
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On December 11 2016 21:16 sparklyresidue wrote: Lots of Protoss! And they say BW is different than SC2! Not so much, it would seem! But seriously folks... Awesome to see Flash going through! Hoping Jaedong can do the same when him time comes. BW Protoss don't even have a bonjwa, though Stork and Bisu in their primes were pretty savage (and still kinda are).
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I watched all games. I rooted for movie, and i am not happy with his decision making in final match. I think both players played poorly for ppl who understand games very well. T.t
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On December 11 2016 21:15 eekmice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 21:07 Archaeo wrote:On December 11 2016 21:02 Miragee wrote:On December 11 2016 20:59 Archaeo wrote: I despise protoss so much... Yeah? Soulkey just didn't play very good. I mean Movie didn't play great, either, but he was mostly solid. I have never been a fan of this "turtle all the way into late game" style by zerg. It doesn't work very well because protoss has all the time in the world to expand (which movie didn't) and get a sick reaver/storm/archon army up and running. Turtling was pretty necessary given that Movie had a lot of gateways off two base. In fact, that's the usual reaction ZvP if you see that protoss is delaying their third. It was reactionary, he couldn't play any other way. Hence, the 1000 sunkens to defend. exactly this. it's clearly evident that some people haven't played even b-c iccup/pgt level. soulkey scouted all the possible expos and movie only had 2 bases. wtf do you think he's doing? building probes? he's doing a fucking one big army timing push to secure his 3rd with hts and a few zeals.
You need some army to flank though. Sunkens don't win you the game. Hell, they don't even let you defend your base once reavers are out.
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