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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
August 16 2016 11:57 GMT
#261
On August 16 2016 20:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:46 feckless wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:44 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:43 duke91 wrote:
Sloppy play by Hero. Fortunate he made it. Reminded me of the style Jaedong had vs Flash two weeks ago

Even more sloppy by Sea, wasn't it?
That game was the worst of the series so far.
Yes, games 1 & 2 were short, but not as poorly executed.

Did we watch the same games?

Game 1 Hero did a buildorder snipe (and happened to catch Sea doing a different buildorder, fail.)
Game 2 Sea did a Valk/m&m hybrid and gets his first valk sniped which is just simply bad luck.
Game 3 Sea had great timing.
Game 4 Sea and Hero both being sloppy.
Did we see the same games?

How were they playing sloppy in the fourth game? Please explain. Because you haven't yet.

I like how you describe the games as if from Sea's point-of-view.

So let's look at game 4 from hero's perspective.

hero's troop movements were much better. His mutalisk control was better, as was his zergling control (the first three games he kept tossing zerglings to no effect), and the backstabs. His troop movements were crisper. These things bought him time. Even the second backstab, where he lost some zerglings, forced Terran army back, while retreating most of his lurkers intact to buy time. He exploited Terran mentality. Sea wasn't allowed to put the same amount of pressure on as the third game, nor was he allowed a great timing attack. Oh, and the final break from hero? Yeah, that was real sloppy.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10601 Posts
August 16 2016 11:58 GMT
#262
cmon these mutas need to do WORK
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
August 16 2016 11:59 GMT
#263
3rd hatch in main? 2 hatch is kinda bad this way, should have gambled
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10601 Posts
August 16 2016 12:00 GMT
#264
heor needs to expand and he'll be a really good position.
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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 16 2016 12:01 GMT
#265
On August 16 2016 20:57 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:52 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:46 feckless wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:44 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:43 duke91 wrote:
Sloppy play by Hero. Fortunate he made it. Reminded me of the style Jaedong had vs Flash two weeks ago

Even more sloppy by Sea, wasn't it?
That game was the worst of the series so far.
Yes, games 1 & 2 were short, but not as poorly executed.

Did we watch the same games?

Game 1 Hero did a buildorder snipe (and happened to catch Sea doing a different buildorder, fail.)
Game 2 Sea did a Valk/m&m hybrid and gets his first valk sniped which is just simply bad luck.
Game 3 Sea had great timing.
Game 4 Sea and Hero both being sloppy.
Did we see the same games?

How were they playing sloppy in the fourth game? Please explain. Because you haven't yet.

I like how you describe the games as if from Sea's point-of-view.

So let's look at game 4 from hero's perspective.

hero's troop movements were much better. His mutalisk control was better, as was his zergling control (the first three games he kept tossing zerglings to no effect), and the backstabs. His troop movements were crisper. These things bought him time. Even the second backstab, where he lost some zerglings, forced Terran army back, while retreating most of his lurkers intact to buy time. He exploited Terran mentality. Sea wasn't allowed to put the same amount of pressure on as the third game, nor was he allowed a great timing attack. Oh, and the final break from hero? Yeah, that was real sloppy.

It was less sloppy from Hero in game 4 but I thought the second counter was waste, also he expanded "slowly" considering his advantage etc.
I was more trying to defend the other games to be honest because game 1 & 2 while short, were rather crisp imo.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10601 Posts
August 16 2016 12:01 GMT
#266
greater spire build from hero all in now. cmon man i believe in you
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 12:02:52
August 16 2016 12:02 GMT
#267
wtf are you doing Hero.
You are not Jaedong

edit: wtf are you doing Crazy zerg?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7218 Posts
August 16 2016 12:02 GMT
#268
whats hero doing Oo?
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
August 16 2016 12:02 GMT
#269
i think he forgot his hydra den
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 12:04:48
August 16 2016 12:03 GMT
#270
On August 16 2016 21:02 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
i think he forgot his hydra den


no he tried to go Crazyzerg, but got nervous I guess

edit: I know now what he is doing. He is doing the SIGAMARI build Hydra + guardians
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10601 Posts
August 16 2016 12:04 GMT
#271
FUCK hero is gonna lose so much to this drop
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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 16 2016 12:04 GMT
#272
Wtf how is Sea winning this suddenly?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 16 2016 12:04 GMT
#273
that drop ...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 16 2016 12:05 GMT
#274
On August 16 2016 21:04 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Wtf how is Sea winning this suddenly?

No, but Hero is trying his best to make that happen.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
August 16 2016 12:05 GMT
#275
ARGHARGH the rines. All those poor drones.
Artosis loves Starcraft
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10601 Posts
August 16 2016 12:06 GMT
#276
YES CLUTCH GUARDIANS
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7218 Posts
August 16 2016 12:06 GMT
#277
gg
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
August 16 2016 12:06 GMT
#278
On August 16 2016 21:04 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Wtf how is Sea winning this suddenly?


How is this suddenly?
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
August 16 2016 12:06 GMT
#279
Doesn't matter about the guardians. He's lost his third.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
August 16 2016 12:06 GMT
#280
THIS FUCKING GAME
Oh no
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