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Some things :
1) Dont even bother thinking that the result of the super fight says more than 10 % about the outcoming of the OSL Final.
2) NaDa vs Savior will be one hell of a game and hopefully be the series the names indicates it to be.
3) Do you all realize that we are talking all about Nada vs savior final already ? LOL D: I realize right now we dont even think about the possibilty of Iris winning vs savior. Pretty sick. When was the last time u read about a final of the OSL and like 8 pages were full of finals predictions, where the person who was predicted the most didnt even make it to the finals until now. omg n/C
we just pretend savior is already through.. lolzor D:
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i predict 5 groups of science vessels owning savior gg kid nada 4 osls win woot woot!!!!!!
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NaDa is definitely in better shape than he was during Superfight. Presuming Savior beats Iris (a safe bet), we're in for one hell of a finals.
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How can we say Nada is in better shape going into the finals of this OSL than Shinhan bank season 2? There he dominated all the way through until matching up well against Anytime for the win. Nada has struggled all through this OSL.
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he made it to the finals on these maps. unbelievable, he truly is a demon. the thing that really impress me is his ability to always squeeze out that final deciding game, especially this msl doing things like 4 pool and allin defiler rush. really really looking forward to a savior nada finals.
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Netherlands19137 Posts
The fact that Savior made it to these finals with these maps and the strategies he played. I'll take my hat off to you sir.
Some luck along the way, but as much bad luck as well now and then. All in all he really did it on innovation, skill and solid titanium balls.
Hwasin played really well but needs experience I think, he looks very promising but plays so uninspired just as midas. I like Casy and UpMagic so much more and I'll enjoy seeing more of all of them in the future Im sure.
I just don't like nada for some reason :/
Hope it's gonna be awsome finals for the MSL and no steamroll, and that tomorrow gives us a nice semi final!
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last osl was won by nada right
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On February 15 2007 03:58 muramasa wrote:
The lack of irradiate hurt him too. If he could have gotten rid of the defilers, he could have recovered. Definitely should have lifted that cc though T_T.
So, Is ChoJJa the only player to have beaten Savior in a bo5 or is there anyone else?
Yes, ChoJJa is the only player Savior has never managed to beat in a bo5 when given the opportunity. What's more impressive is not only ChoJJa is the only player in the world to have bested Savior in a bo5, he did so not just once, but twice.
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On February 15 2007 09:11 DoA.A_Ngoc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2007 06:05 ChApFoU wrote:On February 15 2007 04:44 DoA.A_Ngoc wrote:On February 15 2007 04:39 ChApFoU wrote:
Hwasin is simply not yet at top lvl. Midas/Casy/NaDa would've won this bo5 imho lolz ??? Hwasin not at top lvl TvZ ?? u blew up ?? No he is not, we all jumped the bandwagon looking at his recent stats at the beggining of OSL but his recent losses in this matchup on terran favoured maps prove my point. edit : not to mention he seems to have a hard time handling pressure Hwasin record 16/3 in TvZ, 84.2%, and he's not in top lvl ??? u need he must be 16/0 to be seem in top ??? lolz ?
I didn't say he sucks, but I need more. Any good terran could come up with such a record on these maps. He has very good control, nice timing but he is not the beast Oov or Boxer used to be at their glory days in this mu.
edit : maybe I'm just biased because I was generally dissapointed by his play today, but what I saw was a good TvZ, not a godly TvZ
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 15 2007 14:38 ChApFoU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2007 09:11 DoA.A_Ngoc wrote:On February 15 2007 06:05 ChApFoU wrote:On February 15 2007 04:44 DoA.A_Ngoc wrote:On February 15 2007 04:39 ChApFoU wrote:
Hwasin is simply not yet at top lvl. Midas/Casy/NaDa would've won this bo5 imho lolz ??? Hwasin not at top lvl TvZ ?? u blew up ?? No he is not, we all jumped the bandwagon looking at his recent stats at the beggining of OSL but his recent losses in this matchup on terran favoured maps prove my point. edit : not to mention he seems to have a hard time handling pressure Hwasin record 16/3 in TvZ, 84.2%, and he's not in top lvl ??? u need he must be 16/0 to be seem in top ??? lolz ? I didn't say he sucks, but I need more. Any good terran could come up with such a record on these maps. He has very good control, nice timing but he is not the beast Oov or Boxer used to be at their glory days in this mu. edit : maybe I'm just biased because I was generally dissapointed by his play today, but what I saw was a good TvZ, not a godly TvZ Too bad all terrans play on such maps yet not just any of them has such a record.
Hwasin probably wasn't very impressive because his wins were timing wins, but those were pretty good.
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On February 15 2007 14:38 ChApFoU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2007 09:11 DoA.A_Ngoc wrote:On February 15 2007 06:05 ChApFoU wrote:On February 15 2007 04:44 DoA.A_Ngoc wrote:On February 15 2007 04:39 ChApFoU wrote:
Hwasin is simply not yet at top lvl. Midas/Casy/NaDa would've won this bo5 imho lolz ??? Hwasin not at top lvl TvZ ?? u blew up ?? No he is not, we all jumped the bandwagon looking at his recent stats at the beggining of OSL but his recent losses in this matchup on terran favoured maps prove my point. edit : not to mention he seems to have a hard time handling pressure Hwasin record 16/3 in TvZ, 84.2%, and he's not in top lvl ??? u need he must be 16/0 to be seem in top ??? lolz ? I didn't say he sucks, but I need more. Any good terran could come up with such a record on these maps. He has very good control, nice timing but he is not the beast Oov or Boxer used to be at their glory days in this mu. edit : maybe I'm just biased because I was generally dissapointed by his play today, but what I saw was a good TvZ, not a godly TvZ midas is the only other terran whos been able to come as close to savior as hwasin did today since he made it into his first msl, including oov nada and boxer. how is that not impressive?
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 15 2007 12:04 sC.lover wrote:
last osl was won by nada right
right
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I kinda agree with Chapfou on this one. Hwasin has been on fire TvZ lately and he was being hyped heavily by the TL.net community but I was never that impressed with his play.
Let's take a look at this series. I know a win is a win and taking 2 of 5 of savior is a great accomplishment but I think that savior lost games 2 and 4 more than hwasin won it. Hwasin had excellent muta harass defense in both games and he did play really solid but there was nothing there that really impressed me too much.
On the other hand, he lost 2x on longinus and once on desert fox. He had a significant lead in the game on desert fox and the last game on longinus. He lost way too many dropships on desert fox and showed pretty poor control and overall management IMO. The last game on longinus, he really should have handled that last attack much better. Although it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway, not lifting the CC or moving SCVs away was a bit amateurish IMO. And the first game on longinus, losing so many marines to 6 lings is not something that you would typically see fro the top tvz players like casy, boxer, nada.
Hwasin's results have been very impressive lately, but his actual play has been less so for me. I don't think he has shown enough to qualify for the "godly TvZ" category. I'd still put nada, casy, midas, and an in shape boxer and oov above hwasin. I'd say hwasin's TvZ is closer to the likes of sea and light (very good but not godly) than nada and casy.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 15 2007 05:15 G.s)NarutO wrote:
NaDa will destroy savior. Savior's too smart to be destroyed, you are joking.
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Nobody can destroy Savior at the moment. Come on believe me. Nomatter how much good they are, he'll take both MSL AND OSL. I can even bet my girl friend ioi
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savior's been dominating for soooo long now, its uncomprehensible
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imagine if it was down to the last buildings pylon and supply depot for nada and sav and they both attacking it with scv and probe now that is intense
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On February 15 2007 17:20 sC.lover wrote:
imagine if it was down to the last buildings pylon and supply depot for nada and sav and they both attacking it with scv and probe now that is intense
What the...? You have't been following the pro scene for a long time have you? lol :p
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