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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
August 12 2015 07:57 GMT
#301


Wolf with the sick Twitter shoutout!

Brood War 2015 momentum cannot be stopped!
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
August 12 2015 08:57 GMT
#302
hey guys.. where can i access the vods?
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 22:05:45
August 12 2015 09:05 GMT
#303
On August 12 2015 17:57 hubfub wrote:
hey guys.. where can i access the vods?

http://www.twitch.tv/saylesc/v/10663486?t=10m20s
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
August 12 2015 09:07 GMT
#304
wow dude

ur awesome :D

i haven't watched BW for like 3 years.. didn't realise it's so big again O.o
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 12 2015 09:32 GMT
#305
Bisu made carriers - very useful talent toi have.
Bisu cheesed 2nd game.
And Bisu cheesed in last game even though knowing that HBR favors protoss.
Hero's going to eat alive that mollusk.

There's no better T out there though, so I'd think Mind will come back and be the dominant player of the current era, along with maybe Effort and Hero. Bisu will be watching all that from the army barracks.


You reprieved me! Now I am calm at least.
sunbeams are never made like me...
hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
August 12 2015 10:44 GMT
#306
boo.. vid 3 is blocked for some kind of copyright... stupid youtube
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 13:39:58
August 12 2015 11:57 GMT
#307
so far ive watched game 1 2 and 3. 1 and 2 was good, but 3 is frustratingly stupid on the side of mind. Hes playing so bad that i dont believe im watching mind playin. What is that army movement is mind out of mind? Why not go 12 push carriers out of his nat, take 12 as 4th and attack protoss natural, pretty simple isnt it? I guess hes just having a bad day with the nerves otherwise i cant explain such bad play.
Aand game 5 is BBS a.k.a. Bisu's bullshit. Embarasing stuff for a player of such caliber. Thats why i cannot praise bisu, he always does this and kills my protoss fanboism. That plus 2 times HBR and still Mind is looking like a better player(except in game 3)
Luv ya BroodWar!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8660 Posts
August 12 2015 14:20 GMT
#308
Just watched the games. Solid series, great to watch. Game 3 was a bit weak though, mostly because of Mind's indecisiveness. I found game 5 to be quite cool, even though it was so one sided after bisu lucked out that one zealot (or more like Mind anti lucked it out).
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10396 Posts
August 12 2015 15:17 GMT
#309
I didn't see game 1 before but im assuming bisu just went carriers and stomped.
game 2: clever cheese by bisu, but a great hold by mind at the top of the ramp with tanks. even if bisu killed that initial army i still think mind was in a great position being a base up.

game 3: mind looks like he forgot how to push and just kept moving back and forth. was very very disappointing to watch.

game 4: circuit breaker. too easy for terrans. but also mind adapted really well to the exact same build bisu threw out this time.

game 5. bullshit. nuff said.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6951 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 15:34:59
August 12 2015 15:33 GMT
#310
On August 13 2015 00:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
I didn't see game 1 before but im assuming bisu just went carriers and stomped.
game 2: clever cheese by bisu, but a great hold by mind at the top of the ramp with tanks. even if bisu killed that initial army i still think mind was in a great position being a base up.

game 3: mind looks like he forgot how to push and just kept moving back and forth. was very very disappointing to watch.

game 4: circuit breaker. too easy for terrans. but also mind adapted really well to the exact same build bisu threw out this time.

game 5. bullshit. nuff said.


that game 5 was awesome,there was so much in the line.Bisu sent early probe to proxy a pylon(this mean his economy is actually weak,he need get some gain from it,alright build a pylon gate,then Mind great sense of play scout it and instantly sent scvs to deny this,now bw is so magical,in theory if mind manage to deny this proxy gate and kill pylon he will be so ahead that he will play the rest of the game leading it,then bisu appear with 4 probes and starts to snipe scvs and delay the time kill of the gateway it was so magic that if for some reason this zealot didnt out this was game over for Bisu,doing a proxy build and sending more probes to defend and also loss 100 minerals of the zealot in the gateway,instead what happen was Bisu saved enough time to the zealot out ,it was so close that was unreal and sniped so many scvs,very very high lvl play,im sure most of the people watching the game will just think ah sh*t what a lucky zealot blabla,but there is so much skill in that game.

if someone gonna do a recap feel free fix my grammar and add my notes to that game. ^^;
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 16:01:27
August 12 2015 15:58 GMT
#311
On August 13 2015 00:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
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On August 13 2015 00:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
I didn't see game 1 before but im assuming bisu just went carriers and stomped.
game 2: clever cheese by bisu, but a great hold by mind at the top of the ramp with tanks. even if bisu killed that initial army i still think mind was in a great position being a base up.

game 3: mind looks like he forgot how to push and just kept moving back and forth. was very very disappointing to watch.

game 4: circuit breaker. too easy for terrans. but also mind adapted really well to the exact same build bisu threw out this time.

game 5. bullshit. nuff said.


that game 5 was awesome,there was so much in the line.Bisu sent early probe to proxy a pylon(this mean his economy is actually weak,he need get some gain from it,alright build a pylon gate,then Mind great sense of play scout it and instantly sent scvs to deny this,now bw is so magical,in theory if mind manage to deny this proxy gate and kill pylon he will be so ahead that he will play the rest of the game leading it,then bisu appear with 4 probes and starts to snipe scvs and delay the time kill of the gateway it was so magic that if for some reason this zealot didnt out this was game over for Bisu,doing a proxy build and sending more probes to defend and also loss 100 minerals of the zealot in the gateway,instead what happen was Bisu saved enough time to the zealot out ,it was so close that was unreal and sniped so many scvs,very very high lvl play,im sure most of the people watching the game will just think ah sh*t what a lucky zealot blabla,but there is so much skill in that game.

if someone gonna do a recap feel free fix my grammar and add my notes to that game. ^^;

Pulling probes was key and with that bisu was going to be ahead even if the zealot didnt come coz bisu killed scvs and mining probes prolly doubled mind's while mind pull so many scvs so early, its still bullshit.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 16:10:13
August 12 2015 16:04 GMT
#312
I actually really enjoyed game 5. Like the game was pretty much over after the zealot managed to spawn but the thought of sending probes after having the proxy detected was really smart. Mind and pretty much every good terran already has everything calculated and optimized when dealing with a proxy gate on HBR. They know exactly how many scvs they should send to kill the gateway before a zealot can finish and Bisu knew this so he took advantage by sending more probes to kill/delay the scvs.

In the interview after Bisu actually said the proxy gate in game 5 actually wasn't prepared beforehand. He decided to do it after seeing Mind's response to Bisu's gas rush in the first game. In the first game Mind delayed his barracks to make his refinery first when seeing Bisu trying to do a gas steal. So if Bisu fakes a gas steal this time and Mind reacts the same way his barracks would be delayed and would have gotten more damage from the proxy gate but the game went differently after Mind scouted the proxy so early.

Also another thing to note is that Bisu said that he knew his zealot was going to finish in time but even though he knew it was going to finish he still felt nervous when his gateway health turned red. ^^
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malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
August 12 2015 17:12 GMT
#313
last game made me scream like that day on the pro league finals vs flash ^_^
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
August 12 2015 17:26 GMT
#314
Mind may be the mindless terran machine, but bisu is the better tournament player. He can win even when he ''seems to be the underdog''.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 12 2015 18:11 GMT
#315
On August 13 2015 02:26 Piste wrote:
Mind may be the mindless terran machine, but bisu is the better tournament player. He can win even when he ''seems to be the underdog''.

when was bisu the underdog in the post-kespa era?
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
August 12 2015 18:47 GMT
#316
KIM TAEK YONG !!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2015 19:26 GMT
#317
On August 12 2015 15:42 GeLaar wrote:
I get why people would feel bad for Mind after this series, but I don't get the hate directed at Bisu. He was anything but arrogant, and didn't have an "it's ok, I got this" attitude. And he was quite humble in the interview. So I don't think the usual reasons given for disliking him apply this time.

I don't hate Bisu but I would like to see someone beat him, especially ones of Mind's caliber since he's kind of the final boss and the best protoss player. Also, he plays protoss and TvP is dreadful so there's that too!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
August 12 2015 20:09 GMT
#318
HBR played very well.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 12 2015 20:48 GMT
#319
silly twitch

The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 12 2015 22:07 GMT
#320
i loved the twitch chat when that zealot popped out of the gateway literally a fraction of a second before it was destroyed.
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