EPTTerran player sends 1 scv at 10/10 population (9th scv) to find proxy. If terran gets to see probe was coming + gateway is already 50%, then it must be 7 7 build. Mind's 6 scvs pull was perfect calculation to kill a gateway before the zealot comes out. Unfortunately, he did not prepare against 3 additional probes. :/
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Terran player sends 1 scv at 10/10 population (9th scv) to find proxy. If terran gets to see probe was coming + gateway is already 50%, then it must be 7 7 build. Mind's 6 scvs pull was perfect calculation to kill a gateway before the zealot comes out. Unfortunately, he did not prepare against 3 additional probes. :/ | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On August 12 2015 20:57 _Animus_ wrote: Aand game 5 is BBS a.k.a. Bisu's bullshit. Embarasing stuff for a player of such caliber. This makes no sense at all. | ||
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
what was even uncannier was how quickly bisu reacted to THAT - by sending his probes literally few microseconds after he saw mind pull his scvs these guys are scary good | ||
prech
United States2948 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2ER1FoH.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Far6Lkh.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/awbFdbw.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kIJHTyq.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BYWVCFW.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AYuXiBO.png) http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015081300331253819 Very cool, video interview this time  | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:09 LaStScan wrote: I really wish mind sent 1~2 more scvs. He should've sensed it was 7 7 build. Mind has to delay his barracks timing, and he must make sure that he takes down the gateway. Terran player sends 1 scv at 10/10 population (9th scv) to find proxy. If terran gets to see probe was coming + gateway is already 50%, then it must be 7 7 build. Mind's 6 scvs pull was perfect calculation to kill a gateway before the zealot comes out. Unfortunately, he did not prepare against 3 additional probes. :/ Wonder what would've happened if Mind had taken down the pylon instead... lots less hp/sp there than the gate... | ||
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aedeph
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HaruHaru
United States988 Posts
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reminisce12
Australia318 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17730 Posts
On August 13 2015 14:18 [[Starlight]] wrote: Wonder what would've happened if Mind had taken down the pylon instead... lots less hp/sp there than the gate... I have wondered about the same thing but I have never seen a good terran ever attack the pylon. I always see them attack the gateway. I never personally tested it so I don't know the exact reasons why but just thinking about it, I think because pylons build so quickly if the protoss sees you attacking the pylon, he can just make another one and it'll probably finish when the first pylon is destroyed which means the gateway is still being powered. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 13 2015 15:03 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I have wondered about the same thing but I have never seen a good terran ever attack the pylon. I always see them attack the gateway. I never personally tested it so I don't know the exact reasons why but just thinking about it, I think because pylons build so quickly if the protoss sees you attacking the pylon, he can just make another one and it'll probably finish when the first pylon is destroyed which means the gateway is still being powered. Well then you could just have the SCVs destroy the next warping-in pylon, too... but I guess you don't want to be out there all day destroying pylons when you should be mining. And at some point the proxying 'toss has the cash to have or start two or more proxy pylons at the same time... yah, you're right, makes sense that you go after the gate first. Still seeing the match through 'why you not win, Mind' -vision.  | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2229 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On August 13 2015 15:25 [[Starlight]] wrote: Well then you could just have the SCVs destroy the next warping-in pylon, too... but I guess you don't want to be out there all day destroying pylons when you should be mining. And at some point the proxying 'toss might have the cash to start two or more pylons at the same time... yeah, you're right, makes sense that you go after the gate first. I think it also has to do with the surface area of the gateway compared to the pylon. It's easier for scvs to surround and hit the gateway than the small pylon, especially if you are microing against taking damage from probes. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:07 endy wrote: i loved the twitch chat when that zealot popped out of the gateway literally a fraction of a second before it was destroyed. I immediately noticed my feed was a minute behind when twitch chat erupted into a chaotic frenzy of all-caps, one worded spams from dozens of people while Bisu and Mind were starting to mine haha. Toss can just drop another pylon the moment they see the pylon getting attacked. This series is so close that everything came down to milliseconds. Talk about a photo finish. | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On August 13 2015 13:58 prech wrote: Some DES coverage: Very cool, video interview this time http://youtu.be/JIibsqILcuI Rough translation of the DES interview. Q: How do you feel about finally making it to the Starleague finals? A: Since my progamer days it had been my dream to make it to a finals. [TN: Odd that they talk as if SSL9 wasn't a real Starleague and he's only now made it to a Starleague finals. I guess they mean televised ones.] Q: You faced a difficult opponent in Mind. A: Well, he beat me once in a finals, and I think also on another occasion when it mattered. But other than that, I defeated him a lot, so I was rather confident. Still, he is a rather scary opponent to face. Q: You used Carriers a lot, and also used them well in combinations with other units. A: These builds were not prepared for today. I was thinking I'll just see what my opponent does, and react. Back when I was a progamer, I really wasn't good at using Carriers. I didn't know how. But since I've been broadcasting on my stream, I've learned a few more things, got the hang of using them, and became more confident. So I used them today, and it went well in two games. Q: Free or Hero? A: They're both scary players. But I guess many people would prefer Hero to advance. And I will also prepare some interesting games. Q: You lost a game to Hero in the Ro16. A: I didn't really care about that. He lost more to me in the past, so I think it will be him trying to get revenge. Q: A few words for the fans? A: When I got on stage I was really shocked at how many people showed up. After all the support I've received from them, I really don't regret becoming a progamer. I can't express my gratitude other than through my games, so I will try to do just that. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19276 Posts
On August 13 2015 19:10 GeLaar wrote: Rough translation of the DES interview. Q: How do you feel about finally making it to the Starleague finals? A: Since my progamer days it had been my dream to make it to a finals. [TN: Odd that they talk as if SSL9 wasn't a real Starleague and he's only now made it to a Starleague finals. I guess they mean televised ones.] Q: You faced a difficult opponent in Mind. A: Well, he beat me once in a finals, and I think also on another occasion when it mattered. But other than that, I defeated him a lot, so I was rather confident. Still, he is a rather scary opponent to face. Q: You used Carriers a lot, and also used them well in combinations with other units. A: These builds were not prepared for today. I was thinking I'll just see what my opponent does, and react. Back when I was a progamer, I really wasn't good at using Carriers. I didn't know how. But since I've been broadcasting on my stream, I've learned a few more things, got the hang of using them, and became more confident. So I used them today, and it went well in two games. Q: Free or Hero? A: They're both scary players. But I guess many people would prefer Hero to advance. And I will also prepare some interesting games. Q: You lost a game to Hero in the Ro16. A: I didn't really care about that. He lost more to me in the past, so I think it will be him trying to get revenge. Q: A few words for the fans? A: When I got on stage I was really shocked at how many people showed up. After all the support I've received from them, I really don't regret becoming a progamer. I can't express my gratitude other than through my games, so I will try to do just that. Great answers. Bisu is such a cool guy | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 13 2015 19:10 GeLaar wrote: Rough translation of the DES interview. Q: How do you feel about finally making it to the Starleague finals? A: Since my progamer days it had been my dream to make it to a finals. [TN: Odd that they talk as if SSL9 wasn't a real Starleague and he's only now made it to a Starleague finals. I guess they mean televised ones.] Q: You faced a difficult opponent in Mind. A: Well, he beat me once in a finals, and I think also on another occasion when it mattered. But other than that, I defeated him a lot, so I was rather confident. Still, he is a rather scary opponent to face. Q: You used Carriers a lot, and also used them well in combinations with other units. A: These builds were not prepared for today. I was thinking I'll just see what my opponent does, and react. Back when I was a progamer, I really wasn't good at using Carriers. I didn't know how. But since I've been broadcasting on my stream, I've learned a few more things, got the hang of using them, and became more confident. So I used them today, and it went well in two games. Q: Free or Hero? A: They're both scary players. But I guess many people would prefer Hero to advance. And I will also prepare some interesting games. Q: You lost a game to Hero in the Ro16. A: I didn't really care about that. He lost more to me in the past, so I think it will be him trying to get revenge. Q: A few words for the fans? A: When I got on stage I was really shocked at how many people showed up. After all the support I've received from them, I really don't regret becoming a progamer. I can't express my gratitude other than through my games, so I will try to do just that. Thanks for the interview, very insightful | ||
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GeLaar
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rotta
5593 Posts
Bisu <3 Protoss <3 Sayle <3 Mind | ||
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