EPT[SSL] QF: hero vs Mong
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On August 02 2015 12:33 BLinD-RawR wrote: Calm down eh? HAHAHA | ||
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only free looked like an old man so I drew him an old man beard, then _Animus_ said movie would look like a martial artist with a beard so I drew a beard on him too. I didn't want to leave it half done so I drew over mong and hero too.....You could say I lost control. | ||
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On August 02 2015 12:39 BLinD-RawR wrote: only free looked like an old man so I drew him an old man beard, then _Animus_ said movie would look like a martial artist with a beard so I drew a beard on him too. I didn't want to leave it half done so I drew over mong and hero too.....You could say I lost control. Restrain yourself  Hero kinda looks like Mario because of his chubby face. Movie's beard needs some trimming. | ||
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prech
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 Hoping for some fun TvZ, aka not  Mind vs  Killer | ||
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On August 02 2015 13:04 prech wrote: ^^Desecrating v1's banner masterpiece hahahaha, I apologize. I did it for the lols. | ||
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On August 02 2015 12:33 BLinD-RawR wrote: hilarious! :D | ||
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On a more serious note, I want Hero to advance because we need a zerg semifinalist (friggin' Killer) but I like Mong's playstyle so I'm kinda torn. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On August 02 2015 18:22 c3rberUs wrote: In before Bisu vs Free. :DDD i suspect u believe in unicorns :D | ||
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this random luck streak + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L8wKdCc.png) ends today | ||
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On August 02 2015 18:59 holopa wrote: who's gonna cast this? sayle and Bisudagger I believe | ||
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On August 02 2015 18:57 GTR wrote: interesting, ogn channel is korean only chat Yeh I was just about to comment that =/ it's weird They should at least offer something for English. | ||
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good looking out. Didn't think they were casting today http://www.twitch.tv/saylesc | ||
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On August 02 2015 19:04 c3rberUs wrote: So wait, we can't chat on the OGN channel? We can join a different chat by clicking the rooms button to the side. | ||
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Seri
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On August 02 2015 19:04 c3rberUs wrote: So wait, we can't chat on the OGN channel? Nvm, I made an english room | ||
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I can't see any 'different room button" | ||
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On August 02 2015 19:08 c3rberUs wrote: Lots of people today. I can't see any 'different room button" I forgot, what's your twitch name? | ||
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GG from Mong as he shakes his head. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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On August 02 2015 19:21 FyRe_DragOn wrote: what a rape holy shit Yah, that one wasn't even close. | ||
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Hero at 1 Mong at 7 | ||
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if mong loses this, i swear that'll be the reason | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:02 Caihead wrote: I don't understand why Mong doesn't just split the map again, just take the 9th and deny the 12 and 6 i dont think he can considering he has very few mines in the centre | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:04 2Pacalypse- wrote: not sure how Mong can win this well considering he literally walked right into the middle with his only tanks... | ||
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and vessels are back in the field | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:11 gngfn wrote: Enemy units should be able to travel through Nydus Canals, but with like a 50% chance of getting lost or dying inside they should be sent to another map altogether and have to find their way home through eight seasons while they meet friends and foes. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:12 Heartland wrote: they should be sent to another map altogether and have to find their way home through eight seasons while they meet friends and foes. I'd watch that. | ||
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c3rberUs
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Aaaannnnddd GG from Mong | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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Don't know why Mong got so vulture-happy, tho'... he really needed more vessels/irradiate for all defilers. Hero just spammed swarm all over Mong's face. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:15 [[Starlight]] wrote: Game 2 was so epic. Don't know why Mong got so vulture-happy, tho'... he really needed more vessels/irradiate for all defilers. Hero just spammed swarm all over Mong's face. All his gas went to wraiths, for whatever reason he thought Wraiths are better than science vessels. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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 It's like Hero's breaking Mong's multitask. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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On August 02 2015 20:15 Caihead wrote: All his gas went to wraiths, for whatever reason he thought Wraiths are better than science vessels. Not the way Mong used 'em. Didn't go after the overlords with 'em, he'd pick away at lings, giving away his position... and then of COURSE the o-lords would come in with hydra/scourage, and it'd be bye-bye wraiths. Really wondering about Mong's decision-making. Hero's making him look bad. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:19 [[Starlight]] wrote: Not the way Mong used 'em. Didn't go after the overlords with 'em, he'd pick away at lings, giving away his position... and then of COURSE the o-lords would come in with hydra/scourage, and it'd be bye-bye wraiths. Really wondering about Mong's decision-making. Hero's making him look bad. He didn't even need to use them, he saw queens and lost 3 vessels to scourge, had the time to make another star port, and could have just been making more vessels. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:16 GTR wrote: vultures are a mineral dump, but yeah all gas should be going towards making a vessel cloud Sorry, should've said vulture- and TANK-happy. Yah, tanks and mines were Mong's MVPs in the game, but the defilers and lurkers just ate him alive anyway. No one needed vessels in any game more than Mong needed 'em in Game 2.  | ||
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GOoooooooooOOO MOOOooooNNNNGGGG | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:29 gngfn wrote: The new layout has snapped GTR's knife thing I see you've played knifey spoony before. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:30 deathgod6 wrote: I see you've played knifey spoony before. sideways shark fin. | ||
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At least he played better in G3. | ||
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HERO 3-0 MONG HERO 3-0 MONG HERO 3-0 MONG HERO 3-0 MONG | ||
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damn Hero is so good. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:55 BLinD-RawR wrote: | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:57 [[Starlight]] wrote: Mind vs Hero would be an interesting Final. watching this match, I'd totally agree with you. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:58 Probemicro wrote: hero now is on a straight 10-win ZvT streak! Wow. I've been waiting for this for a long time. | ||
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On August 02 2015 18:35 Stratos wrote: hero is gonna fail hard this random luck streak + Show Spoiler + ends ftfy | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: watching this match, I'd totally agree with you. but minds on a completely different lvl to mong | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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*puts on sunglasses* ...was some Heroic play.  | ||
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On July 25 2015 03:33 Stratos wrote: Nope. Well, one can always hope but why would you even. BTFO | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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On August 02 2015 21:01 reminisce12 wrote: but minds on a completely different lvl to mong +1. Watching Mind a few days ago and watching Mong today makes me really appreciate Mind's play. | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:57 [[Starlight]] wrote: Mind vs Hero would be an interesting Final. Hero doesnt stand a chance against Mind tho. On the other hand if the final is pvt mind may lose. | ||
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On August 02 2015 21:09 _Animus_ wrote: Hero doesnt stand a chance against Mind tho. On the other hand if the final is pvt mind may lose. I dunno. I think you'd have to favor Mind over Hero, but I don't think it'd be a walkover. Hero played so well that it looked like he broke Mong's multitask and decision-making. That's *domination*, and over a guy who took 3rd in the last SSL. TLDR: Hero ain't chopped liver. | ||
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semis would be really exciting. yey | ||
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On August 02 2015 21:01 reminisce12 wrote: but minds on a completely different lvl to mong yes, but it would be an interesting match nonetheless | ||
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On August 02 2015 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote: No member of the top 4 of SSL10 made it to the top4 of SSL11 Ssak: one of the best (if not the best) current TvT player conceded not 1, not 2 but 3 straight TvT games to a certain Mind whom historically has mediocre TvT. Mind shows great preparation and improvement in his play and Ssak deserve to crash out for not rising to the occasion. Last: got relatively lucky in his SSL10 run where he mostly cheesed in nontvt matchups and did not have to show his true hand in such matchups. was brutally exposed by Killer (thanks HBR!) and Zero this tourney. Mong: seems to be very busy with his Honeynchip online business since his ssl10 run, any regular afreecans will observe he doesnt stream and practice much at night recently compared to his glory pighead days. his form and overall play slipped which was enough for a improving hero to beat him comprehensively. Hiya: Never been the type to practice seriously, got by on his best matchup TvP for SSL10 and ran out of luck meeting Bisu early this tourney. Still he always has a relatively good TvZ and has no excuses for losing to hero and especially freaking Larva, even if the latter was just a pride match.. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tJpb4cS.png) Looks like we get some recovery time in between matches as SSL winds down ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tZVC2o1.png) And the last QF ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/G6k8caC.png) 써킷브레이커 CB 신단장의능선 HBR 라만차 La Mancha 네오제이드 Jade 써킷브레이커 CB | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VjPS6YZ.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zFFhVwU.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vHyXkWQ.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pUZ9Vpg.png) http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015080220564566413 | ||
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And if it did, would it have paid off in an even fight too, or only against an outmatched foe such as Mong?  | ||
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I was really impressed the way he was able to deal with Mongs mech... Now, Mong wasn't able to keep up and it was kind of evident that Mong doesn't have the necessary multi tasking to play at the level of Hero. But still, very well done Hero. | ||
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Games where great but I'm so glad I got a seat. My dodgy leg could do without standing for 40min games. In other news when did all the PC Bang's shut. I've got no phone and assumed it would be a breeze to just go into a PC bang anytime I wanted and contact my friends. I guess everyone having internet on thier phones is killing the demand. | ||
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Mong was very solid but lacked a bit of star sense with his early to mid game MnM play. There were a few openings where he could have pushed Hero's third a bit better but he sat back too much. | ||
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About finals: honestly I think no matter who advances, both Bisu and Mind will make a great confrontation and opposition against Hero. But Mind really likes to apply semi all-ins and cheeses against zerg like in his KSL run (Well, Bisu is known as a well cheese performer too). | ||
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On August 03 2015 05:57 [[Starlight]] wrote: Btw, for anyone who watched the match... what did you think of Hero's mass Queen usage? Did it pay off, IYO? And if it did, would it have paid off in an even fight too, or only against an outmatched foe such as Mong? hero's queen usage wasnt as good as zero but it did force mong to build tons of useless wraiths which cost him the game. | ||
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On August 03 2015 12:12 Greg_J wrote: This week is holiday for a lot of people in Korea. I came all the way from Geoje to watch the games. A girl held up a sign saying she came from Geoje too (I wonder if we where on the same bus). I met Nick who came from Daegu and someone else held up a sign saying he was from Busan. Many people travelled along way just to watch some Starcraft. It's good to see. Games where great but I'm so glad I got a seat. My dodgy leg could do without standing for 40min games. In other news when did all the PC Bang's shut. I've got no phone and assumed it would be a breeze to just go into a PC bang anytime I wanted and contact my friends. I guess everyone having internet on thier phones is killing the demand. Are you sure there weren't any signs? Cuz from my experience they're all over the place but they're usually hidden underground so you won't see them by scanning the horizon, but by looking at the signs. I literally didn't notice a single one in three weeks until this guy with me at the KSL finals told me 'but they're everywhere, look!' and just a few feet away from us there was one, so we got in and it had Brood War and LoL all over the place. Had a good three or four games, perfect way to end the day. | ||
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Edit: Nvm I'm dumb should have checked the Small VOD Thread in the first place. | ||
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On August 03 2015 02:53 prech wrote: DES article: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015080220564566413 Rough translation of the interview: Back in the progamer (Kespa) days, Hero was held back by the match-up against Terran. While having solid performances against Protoss and Zerg, his weakness against Terran prevented him from going far. By defeating Mong 3-0 to advance to the Ro4, it seems that Hero has now eliminated even this weakness. Q: How do you feel about making it to the Ro4? A: I expected the Ro8 to be really tough, so I'm very glad. Q: Why did you think it would be that tough? A: First of all, because the opponent was Terran, preparing for the match as a whole was difficult. I thought a lot about it, and felt that if I didn't put a lot of effort into the preparation, I would lose, so I thought about preparing my strategies. It seemed that even with preparation, victory was in no way guaranteed. Q: During your progamer days, your vs.-Terran play always held you back. A: Yes, in the old days I really couldn't play against Terran. But recently I think I've improved a lot in this match-up. Back in the day I still felt I should at least not be worse than other Zergs. Q: It looked as though, after winning the first game, you were more comfortable preparing the rest of the match. A: I put everything into that first game. But it seemed that whatever I do, the game would come down to a build order rock-paper-scissors fight, so I just planned for the best outcome. When I saw what my opponent was doing, it was easy to make the right decisions. Q: You just barely held off the Terran attack. Was that on purpose? A: That was not intentional, I just tried to do everything to make sure he doesn't get through, and it ended up just barely working. I think that I might have won thanks to that engagement. Q: It seems both your attack and defense skills against Terran have improved. A: You won't hear such words coming out of my mouth, but it does feel a bit like that. But in order to make it to the finals, I think I need to improve more. Q: You're being picked as the player who could take out Bisu. A: That is an honor. Of course it's nice to be thought of as the rival of another player. If I can make it to the finals this time, I want to pay him back for the defeat in the Sonic Starleague finals, so I hope Bisu will also make it. Q: Your Ro4 opponent will be Protoss. A: Free and Movie are players who have been doing well since old times. Still, if I'm not careless, I think I will win. Q: A few finals words? A: I want to express my deepest gratitude to Mind, Ssak and Last for helping me prepare for this match. I'll make sure to get to the finals. | ||
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On August 03 2015 23:04 GeLaar wrote: Thanks very much!Rough translation of the interview: So modest of hero. Really glad all that extensive preparation succeeded for him, never in my wildest dreams did I expect a 3-0 result  | ||
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good job hero! | ||
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[[Starlight]]
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On August 03 2015 23:04 GeLaar wrote: DES article: Q: A few finals words? A: I want to express my deepest gratitude to Mind, Ssak and Last for helping me prepare for this match. Hmm... that might explain a few things. Simply dynamite ZvT from Hero. A pleasure to watch. | ||
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On August 02 2015 21:16 Stratos wrote: hero sure played well, better than I expected. Mong made a couple of seriously questionable decisions that turned back on him. Between the two of them, I still feel like Mong deserved the loss a bit more than hero deserved the win. If he beats sSak, Last or Mind in a bo5 then I'll get hyped about his zvt. Until then he's just beaten a few not-so-well practised Terrans.. but good on him. Last? cmon Stratos, Last sucks at TvZ lol. Agree though, if hero wins either Mind or sSak, I'd be more convinced. Still, damn, 3-0ing Mong is no easy feat considering Mong was almost maxed on mech in game 2 on CB. | ||
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Doesn't mean he won't kill hero. Besides, he has some dirty plays up his sleeves, I think those would be perfect against someone like hero. | ||
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