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*Hello guys, I love BW a lot and I wanted to host my own bw tournament and I am looking for people to help me! (casters/website design/liquidpedia) This is going to be the first tournament that I'm going to run to see how it does and if it does well I will also my own starleague and more tournaments.
The tournament format is that the first day is a 5 round swiss where the top 8 will play online (live streamed) the next day for the 75$ prizepool. I'm also accepting donations to help fund future events and raise prizepools :D
If you guys are interested please review the information below!
*Updates!
Made a liquidpedia page :D http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/TSn_Brood_War_Cup
Mappack download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0q9UPOEsNp_a2h5X2ZLejd3WDQ/view?usp=sharing
tSn Brood War Cup
Server: iccup
Duration: Feburary 27 & March 6
Playoffs: March 6
Organizer: Team Sky Nite
Sponsor: Team Sky Nite (looking for potential sponsors for future events)
Casters: Dj Knite X (TeamSkyNiteTV) (Also looking for casters)
link: http://teamskynite.net
Registration link: http://teamskynite.challonge.com/tsnbroodwarcup
Prizepool: $100
1st. $55
2nd. $25
3rd/4th $10
Paypal: pureknitex@gmail.com (To help fund future events and raise prizepool)
Mappool:
(Day 1)
Fighting Spirit - 1st RO
Monty Hall SE - 2nd RO
Katrina SE - 3rd RO
Andromeda - 4th RO
Outsider SE - 5th RO
New Bloody Ridge - 6th RO
(Playoffs)
Python (1st round)
Fighting Spirit
Neo Bifrost
Aztec
Destination
1st Day (Friday, Feburary 27) - 1:00PM CST/2:00 PM EST/20:00 CET (+7) (might be live streamed)
6 Round Swiss Elimination (bo1)
Top 8 to play in the playoffs
2nd day (Friday, March 6 - livestreamed - 1:00PM CST
Top 8 (bo3)
finals (bo5)
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Cool ! Thanks for your contribution to BW foreign scene, no rank cut off in this tournament?
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On February 12 2015 10:52 GGzerG wrote:
Cool ! Thanks for your contribution to BW foreign scene, no rank cut off in this tournament?
I thought about it, but I wasn't sure who would play. Maybe in the future I can do a rank cut off. Like one of the things I thought was like first 2 qualifiers can be opened for D ranks and lower. and the last 2 qualifiers can be opened to everyone. Giving a chance for lower rank people to play... but that's just an idea!
Hope you will play in it :D
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you should post on defiler.ru
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On February 12 2015 11:05 dRaW wrote:
you should post on defiler.ru
got it! I hope a lot of people join :D
Do they have a forum? I just advertised on the chat
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Pretty sure they have some forum, everyone is Russian though. However, if there is a mention of money or link to this thread then they will probably participate.
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If you want to start the tournament at 8pm EST given on challonge you won't get many Europeans to play in it because this is like 2am or later. So you should consider to hold it a little earlier if possible.
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On February 12 2015 13:47 Cryoc wrote:
If you want to start the tournament at 8pm EST given on challonge you won't get many Europeans to play in it because this is like 2am or later. So you should consider to hold it a little earlier if possible.
Yeah I can do that for the first day since I won't be casting but still be checking the site. what time you think I should do it? 4pm CST?
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On February 12 2015 11:05 DjKniteX wrote:got it! I hope a lot of people join :D Do they have a forum? I just advertised on the chat
Yes, they do, not sure how many of them read the forum though. You have to register on the page and add a topic via the crosshair button at the top - already did it.
Also added it on reps.ru and going to write something short in the upcoming days on broodwar.de.
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On February 12 2015 14:05 DjKniteX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 13:47 Cryoc wrote:
If you want to start the tournament at 8pm EST given on challonge you won't get many Europeans to play in it because this is like 2am or later. So you should consider to hold it a little earlier if possible. Yeah I can do that for the first day since I won't be casting but still be checking the site. what time you think I should do it? 4pm CST?
Yes, that sounds much more reasonable.
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I'm thinking of changing the days to the 26-27 of Feburary due to my work schedule, will that work for anyone? or I can still do the 27th and have the playoffs the next week?
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I signed up!
Really regret that I didn't notice the Arcania StarLeague until it was far too late so I'll definitely play in this one.
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United States336 Posts
On February 13 2015 01:48 DjKniteX wrote:
I'm thinking of changing the days to the 26-27 of Feburary due to my work schedule, will that work for anyone? or I can still do the 27th and have the playoffs the next week?
It will work for me if my coworkers allow me to play in the office >.>
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On February 13 2015 03:22 afreecaTV.Char wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 01:48 DjKniteX wrote:
I'm thinking of changing the days to the 26-27 of Feburary due to my work schedule, will that work for anyone? or I can still do the 27th and have the playoffs the next week? It will work for me if my coworkers allow me to play in the office >.>
I set the official date for March 1st-March 2nd! both times will start at 1:00PM CST/2:00 PM EST/8:00PM CET (+7)
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On February 13 2015 03:22 afreecaTV.Char wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 01:48 DjKniteX wrote:
I'm thinking of changing the days to the 26-27 of Feburary due to my work schedule, will that work for anyone? or I can still do the 27th and have the playoffs the next week? It will work for me if my coworkers allow me to play in the office >.>
Sounds like an awesome job!
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Hello,
you can not host such events without contact the Administration.
There are the Terms of use and Tour rules to respect and we also can give support and information (for example the 1st-2nd March is scheduled the season reset and the server will be offline for hours)
Msg me via iCCup or skype @ iccup.face
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On February 13 2015 18:03 iCCup.Face wrote:Hello, you can not host such events without contact the Administration. There are the Terms of use and Tour rules to respect and we also can give support and information (for example the 1st-2nd March is scheduled the season reset and the server will be offline for hours) Msg me via iCCup or skype @ iccup.face
I sent you a message on skype!
guess the official date is still in consideration D:
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United States336 Posts
I guess the Fish server is not an option?
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On February 14 2015 04:27 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
I guess the Fish server is not an option?
I wouldn't mind playing on Fish! But everyone knows ICCUP. And I got the Okay with the admin above. Now I'm looking for dates.
Sunday-Monday sound good? we can do the feburary 22-23 or should we wait til march? March 8 or 9
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On February 13 2015 18:03 iCCup.Face wrote:Hello, you can not host such events without contact the Administration. There are the Terms of use and Tour rules to respect and we also can give support and information (for example the 1st-2nd March is scheduled the season reset and the server will be offline for hours) Msg me via iCCup or skype @ iccup.face
Oh great, you can't even host a tournament now on iCCup without iCCup being the face of it? =_=
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he informed him that the server is in maintenance during the tour. a ghastly and very horrible thing indeed. ![[image loading]](http://defiler.ru/i/smiles/s2.gif)
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On February 14 2015 07:20 GeckoXp wrote:he informed him that the server is in maintenance during the tour. a ghastly and very horrible thing indeed.
" you can not host such events without contact the Administration "
Not much later, you see in the OP, ICCup is now the face of this tournament.
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On February 14 2015 07:20 GeckoXp wrote:he informed him that the server is in maintenance during the tour. a ghastly and very horrible thing indeed.
Yeah now I have to find a good date to start this tournament... It won't be finaly until I get my actual work schedule next week! ahh bloody shift changes.
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don't worry, any tour is a good tour, as long as it doesn't rely on hockey cards.
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I didn't know you needed to get iccup's permission to host a tournament :/
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On February 14 2015 05:07 DjKniteX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 04:27 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
I guess the Fish server is not an option? I wouldn't mind playing on Fish! But everyone knows ICCUP. And I got the Okay with the admin above. Now I'm looking for dates. Sunday-Monday sound good? we can do the feburary 22-23 or should we wait til march? March 8 or 9
I highly prefer Sat~Sun(2 days)
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On February 14 2015 09:07 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 05:07 DjKniteX wrote:On February 14 2015 04:27 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
I guess the Fish server is not an option? I wouldn't mind playing on Fish! But everyone knows ICCUP. And I got the Okay with the admin above. Now I'm looking for dates. Sunday-Monday sound good? we can do the feburary 22-23 or should we wait til march? March 8 or 9 I highly prefer Sat~Sun(2 days)
I requested my schedule to have saturday and sunday off! I hope it happens :D
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On February 14 2015 08:57 DjKniteX wrote:
I didn't know you needed to get iccup's permission to host a tournament :/
Exactly, I didn't think you needed it either, and there has been plenty hosted without there permission i'm sure....which is why I think it is ridiculous they are also trying to be the face of this tournament lol...
Do you think it is going to increase iCCups Population by forcing people to have iCCup as the face of every tournament, asking people to pay to enter tournaments, advertising to pay for rank in ladder, ect.?
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On February 14 2015 17:37 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 08:57 DjKniteX wrote:
I didn't know you needed to get iccup's permission to host a tournament :/ Exactly, I didn't think you needed it either, and there has been plenty hosted without there permission i'm sure....which is why I think it is ridiculous they are also trying to be the face of this tournament lol... Do you think it is going to increase iCCups Population by forcing people to have iCCup as the face of every tournament, asking people to pay to enter tournaments, advertising to pay for rank in ladder, ect.?
It was mainly established to keep an overview of who does what and when stuff takes place. This should make sure no admin wastes time to host a ladder tournament, while a defiler tour goes on, or that you host special events during prize tournaments. At the same time, you could also inform - just like it happened - if the server goes down for mainentenance.
Aside from all that, if you use an alien system for the first time and are somewhat of a stranger to the current staff there, you might contact them on your own, just to be nice and get in touch. Obviously regular hosts like yoda do not need to run there for any tour he hosts, as it is known. He still did it in the past regardless, mostly to get server announces and news support.
Futhermore, thank Game and Eywa for the countless ways to have the rules read worse than they are. Replay sales and the inclusion of blacklisted users is a no go, another reason for first time hosters to approach the team first, just to make sure. Dunno about you, but for me it is a no brainer that I ask first if it's really important to me. The banner on top was always a demand by Yelloant, even though nobody really insists on it to be reinforced, or that your tour would be banned if ICCup is not featured in huge letters on top of your thread/banner.
As for sales go: One thing you mentioned was an idea to raise prizes for players by players, just like yoda did. Yoda is a greedy capitalist apparently. The other one, buying things in store to raise money to keep the page and all servers online, is apparently equally bad. If you think that's reason enough to hate something, hate Teamliquid (TL+). Hf in your narrow minded world.
I hope a person with your capabilities understands the point now. In case you did not, let's try it like this:
XD XD XD XD ICCUP XD XDXD NOT SOOOO BAD L!OL!OL!!O!L FUG xddddddddd
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On February 14 2015 20:49 GeckoXp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 17:37 GGzerG wrote:On February 14 2015 08:57 DjKniteX wrote:
I didn't know you needed to get iccup's permission to host a tournament :/ Exactly, I didn't think you needed it either, and there has been plenty hosted without there permission i'm sure....which is why I think it is ridiculous they are also trying to be the face of this tournament lol... Do you think it is going to increase iCCups Population by forcing people to have iCCup as the face of every tournament, asking people to pay to enter tournaments, advertising to pay for rank in ladder, ect.? It was mainly established to keep an overview of who does what and when stuff takes place. This should make sure no admin wastes time to host a ladder tournament, while a defiler tour goes on, or that you host special events during prize tournaments. At the same time, you could also inform - just like it happened - if the server goes down for mainentenance. Aside from all that, if you use an alien system for the first time and are somewhat of a stranger to the current staff there, you might contact them on your own, just to be nice and get in touch. Obviously regular hosts like yoda do not need to run there for any tour he hosts, as it is known. He still did it in the past regardless, mostly to get server announces and news support. Futhermore, thank Game and Eywa for the countless ways to have the rules read worse than they are. Replay sales and the inclusion of blacklisted users is a no go, another reason for first time hosters to approach the team first, just to make sure. Dunno about you, but for me it is a no brainer that I ask first if it's really important to me. The banner on top was always a demand by Yelloant, even though nobody really insists on it to be reinforced, or that your tour would be banned if ICCup is not featured in huge letters on top of your thread/banner. As for sales go: One thing you mentioned was an idea to raise prizes for players by players, just like yoda did. Yoda is a greedy capitalist apparently. The other one, buying things in store to raise money to keep the page and all servers online, is apparently equally bad. If you think that's reason enough to hate something, hate Teamliquid (TL+). Hf in your narrow minded world. I hope a person with your capabilities understands the point now. In case you did not, let's try it like this: XD XD XD XD ICCUP XD XDXD NOT SOOOO BAD L!OL!OL!!O!L FUG xddddddddd
...really? There is no reason to act like a child lol, comparing teamliquid and iCCup in terms of marketing relationships is absolutely silly, TeamLiquid is alive and booming and has been for a very long time, iCCup on the other hand is dead most hours and inactive for a very good bit of time, so why would iCCup be trying to make money off of everything on there server when they are inactive to begin with?
Your argument is futile, and you are wrong....
TL+ is a great way to gift someone (one of your friends), or for yourself, this website is active...
How silly would you feel spending $ on iCCup when there is so few users?
EDIT : Grammar
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Do not answer every troll spreading hate on iCCup admins Gecko, doesn't worth the time. You see we are talking about him instead of the good tour created by DjKniteX.
GGzerG is just angry coz I banned his account Ever)P(TelecoM for being very BM, now he doesn't miss a chance to talk shit.
Just forgive these mediocre ppl and wish they will grow up.
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On February 15 2015 00:03 iCCup.Face wrote:
Do not answer every troll spreading hate on iCCup admins Gecko, doesn't worth the time. You see we are talking about him instead of the good tour created by DjKniteX.
GGzerG is just angry coz I banned his account Ever)P(TelecoM for being very BM, now he doesn't miss a chance to talk shit.
Just forgive these mediocre ppl and wish they will grow up.
Wise words.
@GGzerg and anyone else it may concern. Iccup has always upheld their tournament policies and been completely reasonable in working with whoever wants to run a tournament.
@OP, your event is good willed. However, I would be wary of anyone donating money to you for "future events". At least if it went through the iccup PayPal account people would know where it was sitting. Regardless, I don't believe anyone should accept money for advance tournaments and instead take all donations and add them to current prizepools. Also, fans could always donate directly to the winning players PayPal themselves.
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On February 15 2015 00:03 iCCup.Face wrote:
Do not answer every troll spreading hate on iCCup admins Gecko, doesn't worth the time. You see we are talking about him instead of the good tour created by DjKniteX.
GGzerG is just angry coz I banned his account Ever)P(TelecoM for being very BM, now he doesn't miss a chance to talk shit.
Just forgive these mediocre ppl and wish they will grow up.
I don't even play BW often anymore and when I do, it is not on iCCup. I could care less that one of my accounts was banned, way to uphold a professional demeanor for iCCup face lol....
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Iv spent some hours discussing some BW event with Knitex, unfourtantly i dont have time to help organize any event at the moment, but im happy to see some enthusiastic BW fan who spend time&money to make some BW event for the comunity. I encourage those who can to help Knitex out, i trust this guy and his intentions. I start off with donating 25 $ for the prizerpool.
Thank you for hosting this, i look forward to it 
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will you stick with five rounds of swiss system or do you plan to expand if more people show up?
might be worth to explain it a bit, not many tours use it.
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On February 16 2015 00:01 GeckoXp wrote:
will you stick with five rounds of swiss system or do you plan to expand if more people show up?
might be worth to explain it a bit, not many tours use it.
Which format would you think would be good? I'm kinda used to the swiss system from TCG and having the top players making it to the top cut(play-offs). This way, even if the player loses their first round they can keep playing other rounds.
Or go with round robin?
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I like the idea of a foreign BW tournament, I hope you manage to find the help you need to make it happen.
I really don't understand the arguing above since as far as I know nobody is paid or has ever been paid to do what they do on iCCup. Same goes for tournaments like this, it is all out of the pockets of people who love the game and want to make it more fun for the players who really put some effort and time into becoming somewhat good at it. Or at least I think that goes for the BW section, correct me if I'm wrong.
And on the side note I notice that the bw server is getting a bit more active than before recently so nothing is pointless at the moment.
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I'm having an easier time getting games at the B+ level than before. I think that BulgarianToss is right about the server's activity.
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I would like you to try the swiss system because you play various opponents but don't necessarily drop out if you lose one because of a bad bracket or group. The only disadvantage I see, is that every player has to wait for all games per round to be finished before the next one can start.
It would also be nice, if you would provide a map pack for your tournament to avoid using different versions of the maps.
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Alright time is settled! Feburary 27-28 1:00 PM CST
Also updated the prizepool!
Also, is there any way I can edit the events on the right side? I submitted them already D:
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On February 19 2015 06:12 DjKniteX wrote:
Alright time is settled! Feburary 27-28 1:00 PM CST
Also updated the prizepool!
Also, is there any way I can edit the events on the right side? I submitted them already D:
PM me if you ever need calender event edits. Ill take care of it. :D
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First of all thanks for hosting a BW tournament.
I have a question regarding the format. You say its a "5 round swiss". What does that exactly mean?
I always thought swiss means everyone plays everyone as it is done in football/soccer leagues etc.
The tournament has 17 players registered, that would mean every player would need to play 16 games.
17*16 = 272 games. That can't possibly be right.
If "5 round swiss" means that a player just plays 5 games instead of 16, then who decides WHICH 5 players he faces?
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On February 19 2015 21:21 MasterReY wrote:
First of all thanks for hosting a BW tournament.
I have a question regarding the format. You say its a "5 round swiss". What does that exactly mean?
I always thought swiss means everyone plays everyone as it is done in football/soccer leagues etc.
The tournament has 17 players registered, that would mean every player would need to play 16 games.
17*16 = 272 games. That can't possibly be right.
If "5 round swiss" means that a player just plays 5 games instead of 16, then who decides WHICH 5 players he faces?
It's 5 rounds, basically like this - if I understood it correctly:
Round 1: games are set randomly, no particular order behind it. With 17 players, one receives a walk over.
Round 2: the winners play the winners, losers play the losers, someone receives a w.o., but no idea who (cause no opponent)
Round 3: winners of Round 2 play Winners of Round 2, Losers of Round 2 winners of Round 2 with a loss in Round 1, losers of Round 2, losers of Round 2
Round 4 & 5: same procedure
Further restriction: You may only play one player once, not twice
Sounds complicated, but isn't. The general idea is that whoever wins plays someone who wins equally, or if you constantly lose, you only play other losers. People are matched per round in consideration of their previous records. In the end you have a table like:
1. 5 wins, 0 losses
2. 5 wins, 0 losses
3. 4 wins, 1 loss
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17. 0 wins, 5 losses
It's a more forgiving format than randomly drawn groups, or eliminiation grids, as you always get a second chance.
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On February 19 2015 22:06 GeckoXp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 21:21 MasterReY wrote:
First of all thanks for hosting a BW tournament.
I have a question regarding the format. You say its a "5 round swiss". What does that exactly mean?
I always thought swiss means everyone plays everyone as it is done in football/soccer leagues etc.
The tournament has 17 players registered, that would mean every player would need to play 16 games.
17*16 = 272 games. That can't possibly be right.
If "5 round swiss" means that a player just plays 5 games instead of 16, then who decides WHICH 5 players he faces?
It's 5 rounds, basically like this - if I understood it correctly: Round 1: games are set randomly, no particular order behind it. With 17 players, one receives a walk over. Round 2: the winners play the winners, losers play the losers, someone receives a w.o., but no idea who (cause no opponent) Round 3: winners of Round 2 play Winners of Round 2, Losers of Round 2 winners of Round 2 with a loss in Round 1, losers of Round 2, losers of Round 2 Round 4 & 5: same procedure Further restriction: You may only play one player once, not twice Sounds complicated, but isn't. The general idea is that whoever wins plays someone who wins equally, or if you constantly lose, you only play other losers. People are matched per round in consideration of their previous records. In the end you have a table like: 1. 5 wins, 0 losses 2. 5 wins, 0 losses 3. 4 wins, 1 loss ... 17. 0 wins, 5 losses It's a more forgiving format than randomly drawn groups, or eliminiation grids, as you always get a second chance.
Hm from your description it totally sounds like a normal bracket with losers bracket:
Round 1: randomly generated bracket
Round 2: losers dropped to losers bracket and play other losers there. Winner play winners in the main bracket
Round 3:
Those who have 1-1 stats play each other (those who dropped to losers bracket in round 2, but won first round and those who dropped to losers bracket in round 1 and won their game there).
Those who have 2-0 play each other (players who stayed in main bracket).
The only difference i see is that the players with two losses (0-2 stats) dont drop out completely but there is a "losers bracket of the losers bracket" and so on in further rounds.
Apart from that its the same^^.
But thanks for the explanation anyways 
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Alright guys to not be in the way of the A/B tour, I'm moving the play-offs one week so the top 8 will battle on March 6! This will give the players one week to practice and able to compete in the other tours that are within that time :D
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Could you clean up the OP? You stated 6 dates for the 2-day tour.
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On February 24 2015 01:01 Cryoc wrote:
Could you clean up the OP? You stated 6 dates for the 2-day tour.
Edited & Fixed!
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is 1 pm cst = 20:00 cet ? im a bit lost
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On February 24 2015 05:12 sas.ZaRaki wrote:
is 1 pm cst = 20:00 cet ? im a bit lost
That's right.
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1st Day (Friday, Feburary 27) - 1:00PM CST (might be live streamed)
6 Round Swiss Elimination (bo1)
Top 8 to play in the playoffs
2nd day (Friday, March 6 - livestreamed - 1:00PM CST
Top 8 (bo3)
finals (bo5)
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Do users must come on that time to play?
The time and date seem not good to me.
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Korean IP addresses allowed?
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Open tournament to all! I'll fix the OP to add in times from different timezones too!
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Oh snap! 9heart is going to wipe the floor!
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On February 24 2015 09:55 LaStScan wrote:
1st Day (Friday, Feburary 27) - 1:00PM CST (might be live streamed)
6 Round Swiss Elimination (bo1)
Top 8 to play in the playoffs
2nd day (Friday, March 6 - livestreamed - 1:00PM CST
Top 8 (bo3)
finals (bo5)
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Do users must come on that time to play?
The time and date seem not good to me.
Don't come, so i win -_-
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On February 24 2015 21:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Oh snap! 9heart is going to wipe the floor!
No, Scan is going to wipe the floor.
Yoo Seung Gon hwaiting!
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
what channel? my friend wants to play.
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It will probably be in the channel op Team Sky Nite. If I can be on the PC at the time I would want to do check ins by BW but if not (I'll be on the road) I would like to have people check in using the chat box on the tSn website.
For now, I want to keep it as whoever shows up can play rather than schedule a match (at least not for this cup)
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edit: oops nothing.. It was a preview bracket.
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On February 25 2015 09:47 9heart wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2015 21:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Oh snap! 9heart is going to wipe the floor! No, Scan is going to wipe the floor. Yoo Seung Gon hwaiting!
I am sorry, this time cannot be played in my schedule. :/
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is it finished or nobody showed up?
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On February 28 2015 12:19 OnegameClub wrote:
is it finished or nobody showed up?
It's finished! I will make a new post with details of the play-offs :D
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United Kingdom1667 Posts
Oh lol bugger I thought it was today! Damn.
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EPT
