It's been a long time. Starcraft 2 Has been released for over 4 years. Many of our old Heroes have been gone, Never to be seen again. The old stories have been forgotten, retirements announced and players moved on. As Time progressed, a burning desire increased: A high school reunion, but then for the game we all love. A Brood War Reunion Tournament.
Prize pool
The current prizepool is €726,18 + €60 for the King of the Hill event. You can donate to increase the prize pool directly. The prizes will be divided in a 40% / 25% / 12.5% / 12.5% manner, with the remaining 10% being split between the two players of the most entertaining game in the tournament.
The tournament format will be a Swiss format where everyone is matched up with an opponent in a best of one. After this, the winners and the losers will be matched up with each other. Players who are 2-1 after 3 games will be matched up with other players that are 2-1, and so on. After 6 rounds, the Top 8 will play a Best of Three single elimination bracket, with the Finals being a Best of Five.
Sponsors:Silky Goose Studios (€~150 + €50) Teamliquid (€~112), Kaoru (€100), and various others from the community. Server:Iccup Organization: Artanis[Xp] and Kaoru Graphics: Raistlin and aLc.Myu Referees: Artanis[Xp] + aLc.Myu
Thank god the event is played on 1 day, I am disappointed in some of the tours lately that span over weeks at a time and just fall apart due to time management issues. Brat_OK was streaming not too long ago, maybe you can grab him.
On August 07 2014 03:09 EndingLife wrote: No IdrA? Nony? No usa gosu's?
I think Nony is really devoted to SC2 right now so I'd be really surprised if he wanted to play. Not sure what Idra does nowadays, he left SC2 but I dunno if he'd be interested in playing BW at all or if he's just done completely
Socke and Cloud fighting!!! I wonder whether the favourites are the ones who still play sc2 because they still play sc2, or the ones who don't, because they dont. :D
Ah, Tau Cross!!! That is the map whose name I keep forgetting! I will never forget that one TvP I watched on there, I think the terran went bunker rush, factory float into cloaked banshee, if I remember correctly.
On August 07 2014 05:04 Metal[x] wrote: Can't wait to see sen and mistrzzz! Wonder if their skill is going to be bad, like current B players level?
The skill level probably won't be all too high. Some players haven't played for 3-5 years. The tournament is basically aimed to be a get together for a lot of names we haven't heard from in a long time, hopefully with plenty of banter during the games.
On August 07 2014 05:36 mau5mat wrote: Get Artosis/Day9/Tasteless
Unfortunately quite unrealistic. I've tried reaching them but to no avail.
On August 07 2014 05:50 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: what about Grrr the guy who wwon OSL in 2000 ?
I personally don't have a line to reach him, and the current player group is the one that was active far past the time he was active. A lot of these players have history with each other, not so much with Grrr.
I think Idra and Nony are to competitive thinking, so they will not go into this just for fun... I mean Nony and Mondi for example, what a rivalry! Man I am so hyped! to bad I cant donate at the moment... :-(
Great!! but i have to agree to Pauline, i think a tournament with these players and current top players would be most interesting. Mondragon would win in any case [/ger bias]
Unbelievable ! Sen / MistrZZZ / Ptak / SarenS / Socke / Mondragon.... this line up is amazing, Can't wait to see the last 2 players ! Very nostalgic to see all these old faces playing BW again... Socke bro I hope you been practicing BW some
On August 07 2014 13:46 TaShadan wrote: Cool! I wonder how Socke will perform. He is actually from an earlier era of BW and i doubt he can compete with the rest.
On August 07 2014 13:52 EndingLife wrote: I think Sen can stomp pretty much anyone on that list. Just saying...
Yea...just looking at all the pictures in the OP, there is only 1 really focused / angry / bloodthirsty looking asian so....others might be in trouble, Sen has always been a monster.....
Mondragon did really well in his games against current top players. After he adjusted to BW mechanics, he pretty much won every game again.. I think he will take it.
A shame about no NonY, as I am a shameless fanboy, but this is still going to be fun to watch.
Would be kinda cool if there was a showmatch between winner and a top current foreigner. Could be very one-sided though as we've seen what no BW for that length time does to players and I doubt (hopefully incorrectly) that anybody has been doing enough ninja training to be back to former strength.
On August 07 2014 14:23 chrisolo wrote: Mondragon did really well in his games against current top players. After he adjusted to BW mechanics, he pretty much won every game again.. I think he will take it.
[/german bias]
Do you know approximately how many games it took him to get back in shape? I know Mondi is a beast but that's still very impressive after a 4 years break.
On August 07 2014 07:16 iFU.pauline wrote: Why don't they play with us instead of doing a tourney on their own, so not interesting.
Imo these old dawgs would not stand a chance agaisnt todays top players. It would be cool, that they show some activity after this reunion tour, not just play here and be gone again. BW is not a game for such bullshit!
On August 07 2014 14:23 chrisolo wrote: Mondragon did really well in his games against current top players. After he adjusted to BW mechanics, he pretty much won every game again.. I think he will take it.
[/german bias]
Do you know approximately how many games it took him to get back in shape? I know Mondi is a beast but that's still very impressive after a 4 years break.
As far i know the good players he played dont played his main race. Cryoc playedhis main and won him easily.
On August 07 2014 14:23 chrisolo wrote: Mondragon did really well in his games against current top players. After he adjusted to BW mechanics, he pretty much won every game again.. I think he will take it.
[/german bias]
Do you know approximately how many games it took him to get back in shape? I know Mondi is a beast but that's still very impressive after a 4 years break.
As far i know the good players he played dont played his main race. Cryoc playedhis main and won him easily.
WOW so hyped!!!! Good Job! Btw can't we get more players? Like White-Ra, Dimaga and other people I'm sure we can get some more! And btw I love that FRIENDS theme banner
gogo Lamer!! also another great initiative, great job gathering all of these old school players to play once again.. also I join the guys that pointed out that if Idra or Nony played this it would've been much awesomer, but it's still awesome so i'm not complaining !
why is it exactly that people are excited to see formerly good players play at a level far below their peak? seems significantly better to watch ex-pros that are actively playing bw
Arew joins the lineup! By the way, we'll probably go over 16 players, but that's fine as there'll probably be no shows. If we get over 16 players at the event we'll just adjust the format to make up for it
On August 07 2014 19:30 BearAttack wrote: why is it exactly that people are excited to see formerly good players play at a level far below their peak? seems significantly better to watch ex-pros that are actively playing bw
cuz is Cool to watch Yellow vs Boxer low skill games aswell..
Artanis and Kaoru thanks for getting this all organised, incredible event!
You may have already tried for their contact information, but is there any chance to get some of our Russian and Ukranian friends to play as well? Brat_OK was seen streaming on defiler somewhat recently, not sure if someone like A2 could maybe be lured as well?
On August 07 2014 19:30 BearAttack wrote: why is it exactly that people are excited to see formerly good players play at a level far below their peak? seems significantly better to watch ex-pros that are actively playing bw
Because watching the pros is like peering into the cosmos and looking at all the massive stars and wondering if, someday, you'll travel the galaxy. But you know deep down you never will, and you just marvel at their beauty. This tournament is going to be more like grabbing a bag of popcorn and watching a white dwarf collide with the sun. It hits closer to home.
On August 07 2014 19:30 BearAttack wrote: why is it exactly that people are excited to see formerly good players play at a level far below their peak? seems significantly better to watch ex-pros that are actively playing bw
Because watching the pros is like peering into the cosmos and looking at all the massive stars and wondering if, someday, you'll travel the galaxy. But you know deep down you never will, and you just marvel at their beauty. This tournament is going to be more like grabbing a bag of popcorn and watching a white dwarf collide with the sun. It hits closer to home.
On August 07 2014 19:30 BearAttack wrote: why is it exactly that people are excited to see formerly good players play at a level far below their peak? seems significantly better to watch ex-pros that are actively playing bw
It's nostalgia only. There will be more viewers because they are famous from a long time ago but it's definitely better to watch SSL or the Chinese OSL if you are looking for good level of play.
Hello maybe some of you guys remember me im Darki from Peru just heard about this and would love to participate if you invite me , it would be nice to meet again some good friends i made at sc like technics lamer etc
ya, hate to say it like everyone else but if most of the other older pros haven't played much BW, Technics' got the easy win imo. No way they would be able to compete with everyone else.
On August 08 2014 02:37 PeruHOpe wrote: Hello maybe some of you guys remember me im Darki from Peru just heard about this and would love to participate if you invite me , it would be nice to meet again some good friends i made at sc like technics lamer etc
Hey darki been a long time! Yeah he is WCG Peru representative back in 2006-2007 I think?
On August 08 2014 02:37 PeruHOpe wrote: Hello maybe some of you guys remember me im Darki from Peru just heard about this and would love to participate if you invite me , it would be nice to meet again some good friends i made at sc like technics lamer etc
technics ? when i play 4 5 6 7 years ago where is technics? so what is old gamer. and what a hell i need play sc2 if i can playing brood war event?. add more money not enough for 10000000000000000000 dolllar for sc2 .. and im playing 10 dollar for me skill
Technics qualified for WCG 2006 and qualified for TSL2, the guy's been around a long time, so in that regard, him being on here is fine.
But if he still actively plays then it's not exactly fair. He said he hasn't practiced since TLS 2 and they're gonna judge his skill and kick him out if he's too in shape. I don't see the issue~
This is so awesome! Apparently i havent heard much for the bulgarian player Lamer just knowing him as a name, but seems like he was real gosu looking at his profile, Lamer FTW im so pumped yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!
On August 08 2014 05:58 Metal[x] wrote: wasn't technics playing in the most recent sbwi league? that wasn't that long ago yo!
well in that case TT1 made B rank 2 seasons ago and Eriador are kind of active too
but i only played for like 3 weeks after a 4 year break and that was 5-6 months ago 8D, i think i played like 100 games total and i havnt played much since then (prob around 10 games)
technics was always around back in the day but he wasnt a top player like sziky or koget were iirc, i know sziky is pretty op now but i dunno about koget and technics
On August 08 2014 02:37 PeruHOpe wrote: Hello maybe some of you guys remember me im Darki from Peru just heard about this and would love to participate if you invite me , it would be nice to meet again some good friends i made at sc like technics lamer etc
On August 08 2014 05:55 GoShox wrote: Technics qualified for WCG 2006 and qualified for TSL2, the guy's been around a long time, so in that regard, him being on here is fine.
But if he still actively plays then it's not exactly fair. He said he hasn't practiced since TLS 2 and they're gonna judge his skill and kick him out if he's too in shape. I don't see the issue~
hi,hi hiyo im sziky i no play 2 years if u see sziky sometime its not me really.. its play jaedong so can i play?thx
On August 08 2014 02:37 PeruHOpe wrote: Hello maybe some of you guys remember me im Darki from Peru just heard about this and would love to participate if you invite me , it would be nice to meet again some good friends i made at sc like technics lamer etc
Hey darki been a long time! Yeah he is WCG Peru representative back in 2006-2007 I think?
hi!, yep 2004-2007 i think after that i quit because of poker
On August 08 2014 02:37 PeruHOpe wrote: Hello maybe some of you guys remember me im Darki from Peru just heard about this and would love to participate if you invite me , it would be nice to meet again some good friends i made at sc like technics lamer etc
On August 07 2014 19:30 BearAttack wrote: why is it exactly that people are excited to see formerly good players play at a level far below their peak? seems significantly better to watch ex-pros that are actively playing bw
Because watching the pros is like peering into the cosmos and looking at all the massive stars and wondering if, someday, you'll travel the galaxy. But you know deep down you never will, and you just marvel at their beauty. This tournament is going to be more like grabbing a bag of popcorn and watching a white dwarf collide with the sun. It hits closer to home.
Should contact THEOGNIS so we have at least 1 more gosu oldschool Terran and at least 1 player from USA...Theognis should def. be requested to join this though. Dunno how any of you wouldn't of thought of this.
On August 08 2014 08:48 EndingLife wrote: There were way better terrans than THEOGNIS-X17. Assem, Froz, Idra, Artosis, Nyoken, LastGosu, Sadist. List goes on.
I don't think any of those people you listed are even active or would play, and I beg to differ that artosis / sadist are better, and i'm sure theo beat lastgosu many times...
EDIT : and also I remember seeing reps of theo beating assem, nyoken, and froz as well. He was up there competing with all of these guys in this list back when they all played.
Sadist is the only one in question. But even he was pretty damn good. I remember him taking games off the pros in wgtour days. Glad an old school Terran agrees with me.
American players have been difficult for me to reach in general. If there's any americans, preferably zergs or terrans that you have contacts for please send me a PM.
On August 08 2014 01:48 TT1 wrote: artanis you should do a oldschool vs newschool (current BW'ers) team match too (like a day before the main tour), i'd play in it
I would watch this for sure, even if it could be very one sided due to inactivity.
Too bad we can't have full form 2009 foreigners versus the 2012/2013 guys.
On August 08 2014 19:00 _Animus_ wrote: Why no Fisheye, wasnt he playing in some old school tournament recently? He is a real legend and should participate.
http://www.twitch.tv/artanisxp streaming a few games between PredY and challengers. Currently Playing against Eriador! Edit: Over now. Two games of Eriador vs PredY, one of Eriador vs Darki and one of PredY vs MistrZZZ were played. Check them out here.
On August 08 2014 23:48 Metal[x] wrote: Shaman would be good if you want to get him, but as far as i'm aware he only play 2v2s now...never 1v1 last time i talked to him.
I don't think that guy is the real Shaman. As far as I know, he's Goody[ro], pn]wink[, SC_Goody, RomaniaFTW etc. He has many aka's.
Maybe he just took Shaman's nickname and aka's after the real one retired.
Pretty much better to watch a showmatch between some good players like Sziky and Scan for this prizepool than some low level games between guys who played BW years ago, but well, goodluck with organization.
On August 09 2014 06:23 trutaCz wrote: Pretty much better to watch a showmatch between some good players like Sziky and Scan for this prizepool than some low level games between guys who played BW years ago, but well, goodluck with organization.
Given the support for this tournament, especially with the donations given, seems like everyone else seems to disagree with you.
Sure, everyone has own opinion about something. Mine is that if you put as a name Radley vs HolaHolaAmigo91 it will be same level game as Fenix vs Ptak
On August 09 2014 06:23 trutaCz wrote: Pretty much better to watch a showmatch between some good players like Sziky and Scan for this prizepool than some low level games between guys who played BW years ago, but well, goodluck with organization.
People paying up for nostalgia is quite common in about everything. Personally I think this tournament will be great and not as A4 as most of today's games.
On August 08 2014 22:01 SolaR- wrote: Other USA players you could try: chosen, yosh, skew, nooks, day, kawaiirice, sonic, city, Nero. Some others I can't think of right now
I can ask Nooks, and Chosen is aka Liquid`Sheth i'm pretty sure....
This tournament is positive. We have a real opportunity to show the old gamers that the scene is alive and today's community is even more awesome then ever.
On August 09 2014 06:40 trutaCz wrote: Sure, everyone has own opinion about something. Mine is that if you put as a name Radley vs HolaHolaAmigo91 it will be same level game as Fenix vs Ptak
I am on same level as you, without abusing fish games (^_^)^
On August 07 2014 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: if there are any other oldschool players that would like to join the tournament, please send me a PM. Referee: Artanis[Xp]
what is the definition of an oldschool player? do you have to be known or sth.?
On August 09 2014 06:23 trutaCz wrote: Pretty much better to watch a showmatch between some good players like Sziky and Scan for this prizepool than some low level games between guys who played BW years ago, but well, goodluck with organization.
I don't get it why you have this kind of mindset. It's always fun to watch retired players battle once again at broodwar. Brings back a lot of good memories. Low level games huh, while the expected quality of the games might not be that high that is still pretty harsh word to say. Maybe if you play here it is not even guaranteed you'd win.
On August 07 2014 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: if there are any other oldschool players that would like to join the tournament, please send me a PM. Referee: Artanis[Xp]
what is the definition of an oldschool player? do you have to be known or sth.?
I would guess that they aim for former good players that quit 3-4 years ago or more.
On August 07 2014 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: if there are any other oldschool players that would like to join the tournament, please send me a PM. Referee: Artanis[Xp]
what is the definition of an oldschool player? do you have to be known or sth.?
you have to chat in-game. forget to make many workers and know how to play 1 , micro; i like the maps
On August 07 2014 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: if there are any other oldschool players that would like to join the tournament, please send me a PM. Referee: Artanis[Xp]
what is the definition of an oldschool player? do you have to be known or sth.?
you have to chat in-game. forget to make many workers and know how to play 1 , micro; i like the maps
don't forget to talk about BW in the past tense ^^ so irritates me for some reason.
On August 09 2014 06:23 trutaCz wrote: Pretty much better to watch a showmatch between some good players like Sziky and Scan for this prizepool than some low level games between guys who played BW years ago, but well, goodluck with organization.
I don't get it why you have this kind of mindset. It's always fun to watch retired players battle once again at broodwar. Brings back a lot of good memories. Low level games huh, while the expected quality of the games might not be that high that is still pretty harsh word to say. Maybe if you play here it is not even guaranteed you'd win.
i like too and i think tru like too that will be held this tour. if tour end and stay 1 - 2 players it would be really good and not saying how much viewers come on By this time. bw need this is. just give us a little bad feeling because you know we stay bw while all player out sc2 we playing more and more and actually see this prize we long time ago no see and cant play same as money. past,present
Man you see, its like that - what do you want to watch more, match between the active players like Sky and Larva, or Jaedong vs Stork? Legendary players from the glory days of bw will always be huge interest for everyone. In official BW tournements there is much much more drama and excitement than in ordinary online tournaments. Even if today skill is improved there is no such feeling like before, at least for me and such events bring that exact feeling back. Also we see you playing regularly and there are many tournements for current active part of bw, this is just one tournament for the amusement of everyone. And man you cant expect to earn money like progamer, because the scene is gone long time ago.
On August 09 2014 20:11 _Animus_ wrote: Man you see, its like that - what do you want to watch more, match between the active players like Sky and Larva, or Jaedong vs Stork? Legendary players from the glory days of bw will always be huge interest for everyone. In official BW tournements there is much much more drama and excitement than in ordinary online tournaments. Even if today skill is improved there is no such feeling like before, at least for me and such events bring that exact feeling back. Also we see you playing regularly and there are many tournements for current active part of bw, this is just one tournament for the amusement of everyone. And man you cant expect to earn money like progamer, because the scene is gone long time ago.
besides Korea u could never live from bw only it was then and its now too
On August 09 2014 06:23 trutaCz wrote: Pretty much better to watch a showmatch between some good players like Sziky and Scan for this prizepool than some low level games between guys who played BW years ago, but well, goodluck with organization.
I don't get it why you have this kind of mindset. It's always fun to watch retired players battle once again at broodwar. Brings back a lot of good memories. Low level games huh, while the expected quality of the games might not be that high that is still pretty harsh word to say. Maybe if you play here it is not even guaranteed you'd win.
i like too and i think tru like too that will be held this tour. if tour end and stay 1 - 2 players it would be really good and not saying how much viewers come on By this time. bw need this is. just give us a little bad feeling because you know we stay bw while all player out sc2 we playing more and more and actually see this prize we long time ago no see and cant play same as money. past,present
also i hope make a show match vs winner someone
I understand your point sziky and tbh an idea came into my mind. Instead of giving the prize money on the winner why not make this a fund raising tournament and the money can be used for future bw tournaments that is open for everyone. Surely this guys won't mind much and I'm sure most of them agreed to join the tournament in the 1st place saying "for old times sake". Maybe we could use this chance to support broodwar much more.
To be honest, in my opinion nowadays what BW needs the most is a team league or nation wars. This kind of rivarly between teams,players or nations raise the activity and interest so much.
On August 09 2014 21:04 trutaCz wrote: To be honest, in my opinion nowadays what BW needs the most is a team league or nation wars. This kind of rivarly between teams,players or nations raise the activity and interest so much.
I 100% agree with this. Bring back nation wars! A teams and B teams!
sziky man , you seem like you care too much about this prize (lol) i recommend you if you want to earn good money playing switch to poker , this is a just for fun tournament obviously people dont expect Top korean matchs , its just for nostalgia , also dont understimate old school players i will bet many if not all of them can make it to the top in today's games if they really want to.
obviously must of us are old enough that we cant play this like we used to
On August 09 2014 20:41 BulgarianToss wrote: I would like to see a showmatch between the winner of this and Sziky/Trutacz/TechnicS or a top active foreigner at the moment .
I can't say this idea doesn't appeal to me, though I worry it would probably be a bit onesided . A final boss of sorts, but we can look at something like that after the event as it'd deter too much from the original idea: A high school-like reunion of players who haven't been in the scene for a while to play and talk to each other once more. The tournament is the vessel rather than the focal point.
This tournament it`s not about the money. It is about the feeling we all lust for. Old people coming back to the roots. Sziky/trutaCz when they(the people who are participating were in their prime) you were not even close to them. So don`t try to chalenge them now. We do respect you, but we do respect them more.
On August 10 2014 05:37 SADguy wrote: This tournament it`s not about the money. It is about the feeling we all lust for. Old people coming back to the roots. Sziky/trutaCz when they(the people who are participating were in their prime) you were not even close to them. So don`t try to chalenge them now. We do respect you, but we do respect them more.
sziky was very good back when everyone was active too (around tsl2)
On August 10 2014 05:37 SADguy wrote: This tournament it`s not about the money. It is about the feeling we all lust for. Old people coming back to the roots. Sziky/trutaCz when they(the people who are participating were in their prime) you were not even close to them. So don`t try to chalenge them now. We do respect you, but we do respect them more.
tell for urself, besides Sziky made A rank in TSL2 qualis and trutaCz was in POL-A team as a 2on2 player, so yea learn before write
On August 10 2014 05:37 SADguy wrote: This tournament it`s not about the money. It is about the feeling we all lust for. Old people coming back to the roots. Sziky/trutaCz when they(the people who are participating were in their prime) you were not even close to them. So don`t try to chalenge them now. We do respect you, but we do respect them more.
See I understand the point you're trying to make, but it's much better to do it without then making sweeping statements. Comparing peoples skill level now to then is silly as it is, but saying people respect people more doesn't have any basis or meaning.
I haven`t see Sziky in TSL 2. I haven`t seen trutaCz in TSL 2, But I have seen a lot of this guys who are playing this tournament in both TSL 1 and also TSL 2. So yes. I know what i`m talking about. Sziky complaint about the money that are thrown in this tournament. If you want to earn big money from broodwar play vs korean and in Korean leagues then you could make your living from BW. I love our foreigners both trutCz and Sziky. I cheer for them when they play Koreans. But let`s have respect for the ones who really made history in Brood War foreign scene!
On August 10 2014 07:03 SADguy wrote: I haven`t see Sziky in TSL 2. I haven`t seen trutaCz in TSL 2, But I have seen a lot of this guys who are playing this tournament in both TSL 1 and also TSL 2. So yes. I know what i`m talking about. Sziky complaint about the money that are thrown in this tournament. If you want to earn big money from broodwar play vs korean and in Korean leagues then you could make your living from BW. I love our foreigners both trutCz and Sziky. I cheer for them when they play Koreans. But let`s have respect for the ones who really made history in Brood War foreign scene!
Sziky qualified for TSL2 like TT1 said, he was really good. The other guy I have no idea about. I don't get why people come in and complain about the money, as if they have the right to tell other people what they should like. I don't watch much SC anymore, I prefer to play, so I'm completely fine with watching the top foreigners that I remember from when I played a lot, back when the game was much more alive. If someone disagrees that's fine, but don't come into the thread telling people it's silly that an event like this has such a prize pool... that's just a dumb statement to make
On August 10 2014 05:37 SADguy wrote: This tournament it`s not about the money. It is about the feeling we all lust for. Old people coming back to the roots. Sziky/trutaCz when they(the people who are participating were in their prime) you were not even close to them. So don`t try to chalenge them now. We do respect you, but we do respect them more.
Firstly get off from me. Secondly i never challenged anyone here i just said the truth, games will be low level. Thirdly i didnt came here to gain the respect. I don't care. To sum up chill a little, because everyone has a right to share a own opinion, and it doesnt have to be the same as yours.
Wonder if this makes anyone else feel old Thinking back, been following this scene on and off since a year after the original was released. Back when the terran only shareware portal had more players than probably play currently. When I hear about 2006 as old school reminds me how long this game has been around and how long i've taken some time to follow it through the years.
Nostalgia matches are truly not a measure of the level of skill but rather a short little glimpse in the past for some i'd imagine. It's just fun. The banter and idea of it will probably be as enjoyable as seeing current top level foreigners play. Should be a fun event all around, as it should be.
I'm looking forward to this ! But in my opinion, you should make something like 16 oldschool players and 16 best current players tour (32 players imba tour) . Anyway, good luck guys with organising this osam tour !
On August 09 2014 21:04 trutaCz wrote: To be honest, in my opinion nowadays what BW needs the most is a team league or nation wars. This kind of rivarly between teams,players or nations raise the activity and interest so much.
While I agree on this post I think they are some things we need to consider. What Broodwar needs is innovation to attract more people to support the scene, I think we can all agree that over the past 2 years broodwar community has been really suffering from loss of audience. For example, if we keep on seeing the same people battling on every finals of tournaments then getting more audience is highly unlikely (It is proven with time). We need the fans of the old players, fans that would be happy to watch their old heroes battle once again on this game. Broodwar needs unity, Us, Koreans and Chinese scene should find a way to truly connect.
On August 09 2014 21:04 trutaCz wrote: To be honest, in my opinion nowadays what BW needs the most is a team league or nation wars. This kind of rivarly between teams,players or nations raise the activity and interest so much.
While I agree on this post I think they are some things we need to consider. What Broodwar needs is innovation to attract more people to support the scene, I think we can all agree that over the past 2 years broodwar community has been really suffering from loss of audience. For example, if we keep on seeing the same people battling on every finals of tournaments then getting more audience is highly unlikely (It is proven with time). We need the fans of the old players, fans that would be happy to watch their old heroes battle once again on this game. Broodwar needs unity, Us, Koreans and Chinese scene should find a way to truly connect.
agreed, thats why we should get nada and boxer to play in the tournament
I would like to bring another argument to the table regarding the current discussion here: Of course it would be interesting to have oldschool and new players participate in the same tournament. But is that appealing to both sides? I guess not: from my little experience organizing Oldschool Tournaments, i think that these Oldschoolers, who havent played the game in ages, prefer NOT to get demolished by the current top players, when they are playing their third after 5 years (exaggerated example).
It's the same as with everybody: when you pick up BW again after a longer break you start playing in lower games and work your way up. So, i think if your hyped to see Sziky, tacz or technics play vs oldschool-legends, you should wait for those oldschoolers to join the public tournaments for everybody. When some of those players get back into the game and decide to play the regular tournaments, you will have plenty time to see those matches. Forcing them to compete with the current best players just dissuades them from playing.
Sorry Mewka, but one has to make cuts. We can discuss it in private if you wish but I don't think it's good for the thread to discuss every player who is and isn't allowed to play here.
Also, MistrZZZ has decided to cancel his participation. Not enough passion, but he will be providing casting in one form or the other.
I used to practice quite a bit with Odin, his TvP was sweet. I feel like I did better vs him than I deserved (we usually went around 50-50 from what I remember), his builds and macro were always so clean.
I was wondering if Legionnaire might be a possibility. He is currently running a BW tournament for Australians called The Australian Rumble, so he is still around at least. Would be a great addition to the lineup.
On August 11 2014 14:24 shizzz wrote: I was wondering if Legionnaire might be a possibility. He is currently running a BW tournament for Australians called The Australian Rumble, so he is still around at least. Would be a great addition to the lineup.
On August 11 2014 20:07 PeruHOpe wrote: btw since more players are going to be included what not make it a 2day event ?
It depends on how long the event will run. If it gets late we'll probably decide to finish the rest on a second day, but that's easier to organize when there's only 8 players left instead of ~20.
does anybody know what happened with odin from brasil ? , he was a good friend of mine but i lost contact with him since i stopped using msn messenger lol
The prizes will be divided in a 40% / 25% / 15% / 10% manner, with the remaining 10% being split between the two players of the most entertaining game in the tournament.
On August 13 2014 04:01 kusto wrote: Right now the prize pool is embarassing.... let's hope more people donate!
Well, it's a reunion tournament not a these players should get rich from it tournament. This mindset is kind of why people like Sziky are justified in being upset. The donations are cool and all, but my donation money is going strictly to current players. If any of these players are bit by the BW bug and return then it'd be a great thing and more the reason for donating money at that point. Right now with the BW community so small it's a lot of the same people putting in money and it can't go to everything. To say it's an embarrassment comes off as rather disrespectful imo.
Damn if I go through the player list it reminds me of the good old times. SC2 has never given me the same feelings as BW. I remember watching BW Vods before going to school back in the days. The days where we had no Livestreams such as twitch, but we had Shoutcasts which were amazing. Koreans were basically all unbeatable unlike today because the game was so much harder. I wish Blizzard would have just updated the graphics and keep the BW gameplay and units just like they do with the Counter-Strike series.
Looking forward to this tourney although I don't expect any gosu moves ^^
On August 13 2014 04:01 kusto wrote: Right now the prize pool is embarassing.... let's hope more people donate!
Well, it's a reunion tournament not a these players should get rich from it tournament. This mindset is kind of why people like Sziky are justified in being upset. The donations are cool and all, but my donation money is going strictly to current players. If any of these players are bit by the BW bug and return then it'd be a great thing and more the reason for donating money at that point. Right now with the BW community so small it's a lot of the same people putting in money and it can't go to everything. To say it's an embarrassment comes off as rather disrespectful imo.
It's a redundant argument. Any type of tournament (E-sports or other sports) gets a different type of exposure in terms of magnitude. If people are more interested in watching a tournament like this, it's only natural that the prizepool is bigger. Sponsors are the ones that increase the prizepool and more people watching means more exposure.
In case of donations, any tournament organizer can ask for donations to make a prizepool bigger. The popularity of an event determines the prizepool which is honestly fine by me. Seems to me like some people that watch current BW (which is pretty much dead) are just jealous? Can't find any other reason to whine about the prizepool, which isn't even big atm.
If you want to compare it to MMA for example, big known fighters get huge participation checks, even when they're past their prime. Youngsters who are much better now get way less. This is just how it works. I'm not at all interested in watching a BW tournament with current players whom I don't know at all. But this tournament is gonna be a lot of fun for me to watch (even if it is from VODs) because I've met, played with and am friends with several players in the tournament. Getting old players to play and giving them appropriate reward for it is a good thing. They are the pioneers of pro-gaming outside Korea after all.
Octzerg still fairly active compared to everyone else in that list. A lot of them are already practicing and streaming. We saw a predy vs tt1 split map tvp on stream today.
On August 13 2014 16:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: http://bwreplays.com/search/tt1/p2 weird tt1 was very low apm player and now not even playing bw almost 300 ? :/
On August 07 2014 03:05 EndingLife wrote: Hype! Some strong zerg's in there.
On August 07 2014 03:09 EndingLife wrote: No IdrA? Nony? No usa gosu's?
It's like he's violating apostrophes intentionally...
I've heard of this format before but I'm not sure if I've seen it in action or not. I can agree with the map pool, as I like 3 out of 4 and that isn't bad.
It would be great if anyone could convince any of the following people to play: Protoss: Draco, IefNaij Terran: Strelok, Tarson, KawaiiRice, BRAT_OK Zerg: Avi-Love, Ahzz, CastrO, XiaOzI, Naugrim
It's a bit of a shame GoOdy will play as protoss instead of mech terran.
On August 07 2014 03:09 EndingLife wrote: No IdrA? Nony? No usa gosu's?
It's like he's violating apostrophes intentionally...
I've heard of this format before but I'm not sure if I've seen it in action or not. I can agree with the map pool, as I like 3 out of 4 and that isn't bad.
It would be great if anyone could convince any of the following people to play: Protoss: Draco, IefNaij Terran: Strelok, Tarson, KawaiiRice, BRAT_OK Zerg: Avi-Love, Ahzz, CastrO, XiaOzI, Naugrim
It's a bit of a shame GoOdy will play as protoss instead of mech terran.
Damn it, why does an amazing BW tournament have to happen the same weekend as Ludum Dare? Sucks for me I guess. Well, at least I can watch the VODs later.
On August 14 2014 06:37 GoShox wrote: Predy just went 2-1 vs. alc.zaraki on stream, who I've heard is a very high level player nowadays. They were really good games, worth watching :O
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
With all due respect; piss off. Artanis is hosting a tournament for oldschoolers for your viewing pleasure and welcomed donations to fund a prizepool - he is not controlling the donators nor the amount these people are donating. Stop spamming this thread with useless comments about the amount - this is a community funded prizepool in the interest of about everyone including people who quit years ago. If you're still playing broodwar for money you should seriously reconsider the time you put down into this game. You'd make more money in a regular job in no time. Yoda/defiler and everyone else who still hosts tournaments got all my respect and I hope people donate to them aswell, but we don't see them bitching like you do. You could always donate yourself, but I guess that is not of interest. Oh well.
Let people enjoy this tournament without this narrow-minded bullshit.
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
You do realize that iccup got more active since this happened. Loads of people came back to play BW again and got excited to game/practice again. Maybe this is a boost bw needed to get more people to play again. If people wants to see old elites play again why is that bad?
Be positive instead of trying to derail the thread with negative comments. Challenge them and practice with the old school players instead and perhaps be a part of of it
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
rofl coming from the guy who "quit BW to try and become a SC2 pro" then comes back to BW, and complains about an amazing tournament being hosted for people that you probably WEREN'T EVEN AROUND to know or see them play back in the day, this is the newschool stupid mentality that too many of you newschool kids have....so sad that so many newschool players feel so entitled lol....seriously...if you are not oldschool at all....just stop....
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
While it's true that this tourney won't be high level (thinking sziky level here lol), I think people are free to donate their money how they want. Everyone has favorites and it doesn't surprise me that people would want to support them even if they don't play anymore and it's for a bit. As mentioned, being a BW pro atm isn't really possible so chances are most atm are working some job or studying etc... and they play BW on the side. The option to donate to other tournaments is always there. Personally, I think this tournament will be a lot of fun to watch and I can't wait to see who ends up winning :D
Wow! The prize pool is at 763.96 US Dollars now? This is amazing....we just need to make this a continual tournament to keep positivity going, with or without the amazing prizepool....no wonder new schoolers are getting butt hurt hahah
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
rofl coming from the guy who "quit BW to try and become a SC2 pro" then comes back to BW, and complains about an amazing tournament being hosted for people that you probably WEREN'T EVEN AROUND to know or see them play back in the day, this is the newschool stupid mentality that too many of you newschool kids have....so sad that so many newschool players feel so entitled lol....seriously...if you are not oldschool at all....just stop....
Ironic you were an SC2 player also. A lot of us wish you played SC2 still. And we all know you spread your cheeks to get into those Korean clans. Ex: It wasn't skill.
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
rofl coming from the guy who "quit BW to try and become a SC2 pro" then comes back to BW, and complains about an amazing tournament being hosted for people that you probably WEREN'T EVEN AROUND to know or see them play back in the day, this is the newschool stupid mentality that too many of you newschool kids have....so sad that so many newschool players feel so entitled lol....seriously...if you are not oldschool at all....just stop....
Ironic you were an SC2 player also. A lot of us wish you played SC2 still. And we all know you spread your cheeks to get into those Korean clans. Ex: It wasn't skill.
Yea true, most of us here have played SC2 and left, so ironic. I love the little jab, who are you again? Yes I spread them via battle.net somehow. Call me the david blane of joining Korean clans.
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
I really can understand you and I feel a little like it as well. But saying yoda wouldn't have gotten attention around here is a little too much imo. Fact is, that Defiler got the least bit of clicks, because the advertisment for his tournaments was too little and we all missed to provide coverage and instead focussed on other things, worth a lot less production wise. The Defiler write-up was still a main page news or a spotlight, can't recall what exactly, and numbers also went up for a bit. Most people said it, let's make the best of that tour by trying to get more attention to the post-beta scene.
Hint: just saying people are stupid won't do the trick. Also, this isn't aimed at you totally, but BestBB already told us we shouldn't answer the real ... unpleasant people in this thread. Let's just try to get some of the players here to play more afterwards, maybe against the good players of today, so we can get rid of the nostalgia-only one time effect. Even if that fails, we get to see a hopefully entertaining tour.
kinda off topic but does anyone know why the mca launcher thread was closed? im looking for an older version of the launcher, for some reason i cant connect to fish w/ 1.9.9.9
On August 15 2014 06:24 dr.shrinker wrote: With all due respect; piss off. Artanis is hosting a tournament for oldschoolers for your viewing pleasure and welcomed donations to fund a prizepool - he is not controlling the donators nor the amount these people are donating. Stop spamming this thread with useless comments about the amount - this is a community funded prizepool in the interest of about everyone including people who quit years ago. If you're still playing broodwar for money you should seriously reconsider the time you put down into this game. You'd make more money in a regular job in no time. Yoda/defiler and everyone else who still hosts tournaments got all my respect and I hope people donate to them aswell, but we don't see them bitching like you do. You could always donate yourself, but I guess that is not of interest. Oh well.
Let people enjoy this tournament without this narrow-minded bullshit.
No... it's not of interest at all, I like to play not watch people play. Though I did donate for defiler.ru and will again in the future for it brings me much more entertainment that this thing i won't even bother watching. I should rather contribute for a community that play everyday and make tournament for everyone that those one shot tourney for "my viewing pleasure" that I don't support at all. And that's my "narrow minded bs" perspective, "with all due respect".
On August 15 2014 06:24 dr.shrinker wrote: With all due respect; piss off. Artanis is hosting a tournament for oldschoolers for your viewing pleasure and welcomed donations to fund a prizepool - he is not controlling the donators nor the amount these people are donating. Stop spamming this thread with useless comments about the amount - this is a community funded prizepool in the interest of about everyone including people who quit years ago. If you're still playing broodwar for money you should seriously reconsider the time you put down into this game. You'd make more money in a regular job in no time. Yoda/defiler and everyone else who still hosts tournaments got all my respect and I hope people donate to them aswell, but we don't see them bitching like you do. You could always donate yourself, but I guess that is not of interest. Oh well.
Let people enjoy this tournament without this narrow-minded bullshit.
No... it's not of interest at all, I like to play not watch people play. Though I did donate for defiler.ru and will again in the future for it brings me much more entertainment that this thing i won't even bother watching. I should rather contribute for a community that play everyday and make tournament for everyone that those one shot tourney for "my viewing pleasure" that I don't support at all. And that's my "narrow minded bs" perspective, "with all due respect".
Well if you don't support stuff like this that can help BW/ICCup get more players then don't derail it with negativity please. As you can see what people say or comment in the thread. Stay away with negativity and just ignore the thread in the future.
On August 15 2014 06:24 dr.shrinker wrote: With all due respect; piss off. Artanis is hosting a tournament for oldschoolers for your viewing pleasure and welcomed donations to fund a prizepool - he is not controlling the donators nor the amount these people are donating. Stop spamming this thread with useless comments about the amount - this is a community funded prizepool in the interest of about everyone including people who quit years ago. If you're still playing broodwar for money you should seriously reconsider the time you put down into this game. You'd make more money in a regular job in no time. Yoda/defiler and everyone else who still hosts tournaments got all my respect and I hope people donate to them aswell, but we don't see them bitching like you do. You could always donate yourself, but I guess that is not of interest. Oh well.
Let people enjoy this tournament without this narrow-minded bullshit.
No... it's not of interest at all, I like to play not watch people play. Though I did donate for defiler.ru and will again in the future for it brings me much more entertainment that this thing i won't even bother watching. I should rather contribute for a community that play everyday and make tournament for everyone that those one shot tourney for "my viewing pleasure" that I don't support at all. And that's my "narrow minded bs" perspective, "with all due respect".
as you can see none of us even knew that there was gonna be a prizepool to begin with, im sure everyone just wanted to get together and have a good time.
also, fwiw we never had any weekly online money tours back in the day (or any small online $ tours in general, and that was when the scene was waaay bigger than it currently is). the biggest online tourney that we had were 2 TSL's and that was ~10 years after the game was released. everyone here played BW for 5-10 years without making any money out of it.. this is probably the last thread u wanna be starting an argument over money in.
On August 15 2014 10:27 FabledIntegral wrote: Replace Python with Andromeda! Python sucked as a map , even if it's the map all of us have played more than any other map (except maybe BGH, hehe).
Nah I think the map pool is perfect. Andromeda is soooo boring.
Well tbh I guess it's not about the exact prize pool, but that many people are so hyped for this, ready to donate and happy to see these players that mostly left bw in 2010 and after tour will probably leave again (who knows). That's why some people are getting mad. That this tour have way more attention then almost any other foreign tournament during post-beta times even if level of games might be worse then in other tours nowadays. Personally I think quality of games will be good in the end
On August 15 2014 23:25 FusioN.Strider wrote: I am so excited for this! I haven't really watched Brood War in quite a while, this makes me so happy I just had to donate for it. :D
Agree. I've spent just under half my life in love with this game. I didn't have the spare cash when I first got into BW, but now that I do, I'm only too happy to swing some $$ BW's way.
The tournament format is being changed from a one-day event to a two-day event due to the playercount. The semifinals and onwards will be played on Sunday, Aug 24 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), with a few fungames being played starting Sunday, Aug 24 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is also when the broadcast will begin.
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
rofl coming from the guy who "quit BW to try and become a SC2 pro" then comes back to BW, and complains about an amazing tournament being hosted for people that you probably WEREN'T EVEN AROUND to know or see them play back in the day, this is the newschool stupid mentality that too many of you newschool kids have....so sad that so many newschool players feel so entitled lol....seriously...if you are not oldschool at all....just stop....
try to quit bw to become a sc2 pro? what are you talking about? (did you quote me by mistake?) -_- I am old school for your info, i started this game in 99 im 31 yrs old as a matter of fact i was playing before most of the line up in this tournament, i don't know where u get your info bro but I have to say NO on this one lol
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
rofl coming from the guy who "quit BW to try and become a SC2 pro" then comes back to BW, and complains about an amazing tournament being hosted for people that you probably WEREN'T EVEN AROUND to know or see them play back in the day, this is the newschool stupid mentality that too many of you newschool kids have....so sad that so many newschool players feel so entitled lol....seriously...if you are not oldschool at all....just stop....
try to quit bw to become a sc2 pro? what are you talking about? (did you quote me by mistake?) -_- I am old school for your info, i started this game in 99 im 31 yrs old as a matter of fact i was playing before most of the line up in this tournament, i don't know where u get your info bro but I have to say NO on this one lol
pretty sure he's talking about trutaCz, who is a fucking monstrous zerg who started a long time ago, so it still doesn't make any sense...
On August 14 2014 23:26 trutaCz wrote: Nice, the prizepool is already about "10+ defilers weekly tours" it seems that people really want to see old names.
Yeah a shame that ppl donate so much for something so useless as an one old timer tourney while defiler tour and other little tournaments contribute much more at entertaining players and keeping bw scene alive. Ppl really living in the past -_-
rofl coming from the guy who "quit BW to try and become a SC2 pro" then comes back to BW, and complains about an amazing tournament being hosted for people that you probably WEREN'T EVEN AROUND to know or see them play back in the day, this is the newschool stupid mentality that too many of you newschool kids have....so sad that so many newschool players feel so entitled lol....seriously...if you are not oldschool at all....just stop....
try to quit bw to become a sc2 pro? what are you talking about? (did you quote me by mistake?) -_- I am old school for your info, i started this game in 99 im 31 yrs old as a matter of fact i was playing before most of the line up in this tournament, i don't know where u get your info bro but I have to say NO on this one lol
Oh actually I was thinking of someone else, and no you weren't playing before most of these people......I beg to differ that your oldschool ......a real oldschool BW player wouldn't be mad about this.... anyone with half a brain realizes that BW foreign scene needs this, and also that all these people are amazing people and players. Anyone on this tournament would probably roll through you without practicing in the last 4 + years....
EDIT : No I actually was thinking of Sabas, but he is a cool dude, but really pauline you have a lot of nerve with the stuff you spout out.
What if like, on game day, like... Stinkin' Strelok, White-ra, Kolll, Draco, BRAT_OK, ret, IdrA, Jaedong, Bisu, Sea, Flash, Fantasy, fOrGG, Kal, FireBatHero, YellOw, BoxeR, ElkY, Grrr..., GARMITO, ToSsGirL, Kingdom, and TheMarine shows up and like, challenges, like, everybody, and it becomes like, foreigners vs Koreans?
I think that'd be cool...
Or Artanis, you can play, 4pool everybody, and take the money all for yourself.
Edit: Also, on the last day, have like, a monstrous FFA on Fastest Map Possible and we'll see who the REAL champion is.
haha wow at the amount of first world problems in this thread. also i wish people cared this much about me i'm not sure i understand the bashing on skill level, i bet it's not gonna be so terrible if the players care just a little bit, and like ~90% of the users here still couldn't compete in this so what's up with that. plus you can always just watch korean expros' streams for free any day... about the money... i can understand the frustration, especially from those who still strive competitively, but don't live in the west and could really use some extra cash (i work for about $2,5/hour), but i think it's more of a slap to the ego rather than anything else. here we are with pretty much no big event for the past year, still waiting for the TLS championship with no info, and these oldies come in to joke around for $100 and they get ten times the attention and hype and donations we do, and we are excluded. i still think it's a really nice event, but simply bittersweet to many who stuck around after sc2. regarding the hate in some comments, i doubt it's aimed at the event itself, but more at the lack of such interest and suppot for the current scene. so keep it up, and maybe do some fun event afterwards with the topX finishers vs a "newschool" team (could be poll-picked by the community), 'cause it might not be so one-sided as everybody seems to think. i'll try to catch these games, and i haven't even followed the SOSPA scene lately, so definitely thumbs up.
On August 16 2014 16:22 skzlime wrote: haha wow at the amount of first world problems in this thread. also i wish people cared this much about me i'm not sure i understand the bashing on skill level, i bet it's not gonna be so terrible if the players care just a little bit, and like ~90% of the users here still couldn't compete in this so what's up with that. plus you can always just watch korean expros' streams for free any day... about the money... i can understand the frustration, especially from those who still strive competitively, but don't live in the west and could really use some extra cash (i work for about $2,5/hour), but i think it's more of a slap to the ego rather than anything else. here we are with pretty much no big event for the past year, still waiting for the TLS championship with no info, and these oldies come in to joke around for $100 and they get ten times the attention and hype and donations we do, and we are excluded. i still think it's a really nice event, but simply bittersweet to many who stuck around after sc2. regarding the hate in some comments, i doubt it's aimed at the event itself, but more at the lack of such interest and suppot for the current scene. so keep it up, and maybe do some fun event afterwards with the topX finishers vs a "newschool" team (could be poll-picked by the community), 'cause it might not be so one-sided as everybody seems to think. i'll try to catch these games, and i haven't even followed the SOSPA scene lately, so definitely thumbs up.
The amount of money raised could also be a function of who is donating (ie., old school BWers who played during this era). I don't follow the foreign scene currently but was incredibly active when nearly all of these players were playing. That's precisely why I donated to this event and I imagine I'm not alone in that regard. And this is coming from the era where just getting a headset from SteelSeries or a mousepad from Qpad was a top 3 prize. But I think its also important to remember the BW scene had a lot of great eastern European players back in the day who made very little money with BW on top of their small wage (eg., Satanik, Gorky, Shaman, etc).
I do like your final suggestion and would ove to see an 'active old school team' versus a 'new school team' on a combination of new/old maps. Get someone like Sayle to cast it and I would gladly throw some cash at that event..
5:26 Atncloud: sziky complains he is not in the tournament 5:26 Tt1: 2nd one was bad 5:26 Atncloud: when after so many years 5:26 Slytown21: gg wp Scan 5:26 Atncloud: he still sucks so much
I do like your final suggestion and would ove to see an 'active old school team' versus a 'new school team' on a combination of new/old maps. Get someone like Sayle to cast it and I would gladly throw some cash at that event..
Old School vs New School. Sounds like a good tourney to me Even in the TLS, the sort of tricky shenanigans old school players would throw at new school was always fun.
A new event has been announced, the King of the Hill event for Oldschoolers against Newschoolers which will take place prior to the conclusion of the BW Reunion Tournament on Sunday. More information can be found here.
On August 17 2014 07:08 trutaCz wrote: Wtf this cloud is talking about, i'm not kinda sure
He doesn't know who Scan is maybe.
Hell, I didn't know what was up with the Scan joke for awhile with all the secrecy surrounding the guy. Almost impossible to figure out correct usage of that moniker.
5:26 Atncloud: sziky complains he is not in the tournament 5:26 Tt1: 2nd one was bad 5:26 Atncloud: when after so many years 5:26 Slytown21: gg wp Scan 5:26 Atncloud: he still sucks so much
big LOL
Thats just Cloud ^^ Is it true that sziky complained not being in the oldschool tournament? Sziky is not really oldschool. At the time those players on the list were good, sziky was a low level player.
Yeah I don't know why people are continually saying Sziky wasn't that good back then, and that he wouldn't be so amazing even now compared to ex-top players in their prime. It's bizarre and unfounded. I suppose it's a way of vindicating the nostalgic idea that players were all round just much better then...
On August 17 2014 22:01 ImbaTosS wrote: Yeah I don't know why people are continually saying Sziky wasn't that good back then, and that he wouldn't be so amazing even now compared to ex-top players in their prime. It's bizarre and unfounded. I suppose it's a way of vindicating the nostalgic idea that players were all round just much better then...
2009 is not really oldschool. Before that sziky did not show any result. So what are you guys talking about? I agree that sziky was a beast later and still is awesome!
I've been trying to find somebody good to play games but it seems there's very few people online on iccup. Do the players nowadays have skype chats or means to contact themselves or they just log in and play whoever is online?
On August 18 2014 07:35 aTnClouD wrote: I've been trying to find somebody good to play games but it seems there's very few people online on iccup. Do the players nowadays have skype chats or means to contact themselves or they just log in and play whoever is online?
Ladder 2x2 is filled with players that plays 1x1/2x2 The best way to get good practice is on fish server i guess or vs high B/A-++++ ppl on ladder.
On August 18 2014 07:35 aTnClouD wrote: I've been trying to find somebody good to play games but it seems there's very few people online on iccup. Do the players nowadays have skype chats or means to contact themselves or they just log in and play whoever is online?
Once you reach C C+ it's fairly hard to get games on iccup. Maybe during peak russian time..you can play lancerx for 10 hours straight or something and get A- in a day.
On August 18 2014 07:35 aTnClouD wrote: I've been trying to find somebody good to play games but it seems there's very few people online on iccup. Do the players nowadays have skype chats or means to contact themselves or they just log in and play whoever is online?
Gotta play on fish, it's still loaded with players, ICCUP however is more of a D to C, thing atm, also you need to portforward to host to get games, so yeah go practice on FISH, GL!
Unfortunately ParanOid has canceled for Saturday, so he won't participate in the main tournament. He will be playing in the King of the Hill event though.
Edit: that was a bit harsh. Arcneon should have the upper hand since he was active not so long ago. It'll be fun to see how he does if he plays Mondi or Sen.
On August 19 2014 09:32 SADguy wrote: Please get Shaman. He deserve to get his revenge on Mondragon!!
I'll do my best, but iccup stats show he hasn't been on in a week. If anyone has any contacts to him please do contact him. Edit: I also made a small adjustment. No one really likes loser's finals, so I've equalized the 3rd/4th place prize money and scrapped the losers finals. Added half an hour to the King of the Hill event to compensate.
On August 19 2014 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hey guys. Guys. Would you like an American Terran? Someone like.. Nyoken? I do hope so, because he just got added to the playerlist.
On August 19 2014 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hey guys. Guys. Would you like an American Terran? Someone like.. Nyoken? I do hope so, because he just got added to the playerlist.
Super happy about Nyoken. I would also love to see castro in this as well. Except for everyone else complaining about his lag, he was a good 'sound' south american zerg..
On August 22 2014 00:26 aTnClouD wrote: lol, I wish I could practice, iccup is empty and fish lags too much. I guess I'll just take what I've got so far and see how it goes.
On August 22 2014 00:26 aTnClouD wrote: lol, I wish I could practice, iccup is empty and fish lags too much. I guess I'll just take what I've got so far and see how it goes.
There will be VODs of sorts, probably both on twitch and Youtube. If the event is a success, it's probably going to be repeated at some time in the future though I doubt I'll have as much time as I did for this one.
excellent map choice and players (too bad Draco is not there!) looking forward to this one! Please provide an after event replays pack! Would be great to watch ALL games!!!! GL all players!!!!!
i didnt sign cause i thought id be busy preparing for my sc2 tournament, but thats already played so ill have time to come hang out at least but not play this tour glggl
On August 23 2014 23:46 MorroW wrote: i didnt sign cause i thought id be busy preparing for my sc2 tournament, but thats already played so ill have time to come hang out at least but not play this tour glggl
One more thing this just dawned on me! Haypro is a TvZ player, which means that we won't have a single ZvZ tomorrow! It's impossible! Victory for the foreign scene!
On August 24 2014 08:24 thezanursic wrote: One more thing this just dawned on me! Haypro is a TvZ player, which means that we won't have a single ZvZ tomorrow! It's impossible! Victory for the foreign scene!
Fosken also doesn't play ZvZ, right?
Haypro is a race picker I believe though ya, I think he would spare us the ZvZ if there was going to be on lol
Wonder if TLS will have a Polish stream with the relative success with the Polish stream of this tournament, not a Pole myself, but would still be cool I guess
The reppack includes the KOTH as well. Also, about that last game of Sziky. For his match against Fosken the handicap was initially going to be no mutas and no lings (at least, he wasn't allowed to attack with them). I just realized that he decided to take up that handicap himself for the last game
I have to admit after what i saw yesterday Sziky is truly an amazing player. Very nice tournament, i said it before, but i will say it again - old school guys, stick around with us, you are most welcome .
sarens said with the french caster that he'll stick around, he said something like "i've never been so motivated in sc2, i was like "come on, i win this one !" i felt like i was a kid again"
I've sent all the players their money. I figured it was hard to deny ClouD vs HayprO game 4 not being the most entertaining game of the tournament, so props to them for winning even more money!
On August 26 2014 01:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I've sent all the players their money. I figured it was hard to deny ClouD vs HayprO game 4 not being the most entertaining game of the tournament, so props to them for winning even more money!
On August 26 2014 01:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I've sent all the players their money. I figured it was hard to deny ClouD vs HayprO game 4 not being the most entertaining game of the tournament, so props to them for winning even more money!
Link pls
Thanks for organising this !
Youtube vods should be up soon, but Game 4 starts here.
A very fun tour, thanks to Artanis for organizing and the players for participating and showing cool games. Awesome casts, too! I kinda wish some of the players like TT1, Drone or Arcneon that I see active in the BW forums and playing games would've done better but hopefully after this we'll see more oldschoolers do the same! Pls someone take Sziky's throne already Nah actually I'm a Sziky fanboy. But it makes me feel sad to see such great players and figures just disappear and never come back, so I'm looking forward to the next edition!
On August 26 2014 01:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I've sent all the players their money. I figured it was hard to deny ClouD vs HayprO game 4 not being the most entertaining game of the tournament, so props to them for winning even more money!
Link pls
Thanks for organising this !
Youtube vods should be up soon, but Game 4 starts here.
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