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[NEWS] Kosiro claims that he didn't cheat

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NeVeRDiEDrOnE
Profile Joined January 2005
Korea (South)227 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-24 06:03:26
September 24 2006 05:51 GMT
#1
Sorry for caps but this is really important:


I wrote in PGR about the TL vs FiFo result yesterday, here is the page:

PGR's Sandlot 1st week results


And today, Polaris[ArnC] from team PGR, who is a friend of Kosiro, saw the post and replied:


"Hello, I'm Polaris
I want to talk about the Kosiro issue a little bit.

After I saw the TLvsFIFO result post, I rushed to him asap to ask, and show him the news, since I know him personally.
As I was assuming, he didn't know about it at all and was completely suprised by it. And he asked me to post the real circumstances for him here:

Kosiro said that he was actually preparing for the Sandlot match.

On that day he was in a very bad shape because of the aforementioned Pentech meeting after PL, but he didn't dare to fail the tournament so he went to a nearest internet cafe in the middle of the meeting for the games.
But the settings in that place was really horrible, so after game 1 he decided to move to Pentech headquarters.

So he played then HIMSELF game 2 and 3 there, and he went all-in strategies in both games because of his low shape. And won both.

To the suspicion that the replay analysers claimed firefist to have played instead, he replied that he unquestionably played the game himself, and replay shall be analysed as much as needed.

He did his usual in that game, so everything shall be the same and he's innocent.When the final result of replay analysis says forfeit, he will accept it to get kicked out of the tournament.

I(Polaris) have personally varying APM's between 270 and 450 depending on my shape. APM shouldn't be the mesure since progamers have varying APM's too quite often.

We both feel sorry for the issue, and Kosiro said he was aiming to achieve good results so he practiced the non-pro maps quite a lot. And he absolutely couldn't do anything about the scandle.

He further asked to consider that he tried his best actually although he was in a real bad shape.

He've heard about getting kicked out of team TL, but he will give his best for the team victory when he's allowed again to play the tournament.

I(Polaris) really hope this post gets through to TL master, and he feels regrets for the unlucky circumstances.

I know him quite well personally, he is a very nice boy and well-mannered gamer. I really hope that TL shows understanding and Kosiro does well again."



He added his email adress p.s. but I think he doesn't speak eng so I excluded. You can ask me or go to the link or just use this forum.
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
September 24 2006 05:53 GMT
#2
I really hope this is true.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6779 Posts
September 24 2006 05:54 GMT
#3
I hope this is true. Kosiro is an important part of the TL team.
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
September 24 2006 05:56 GMT
#4
yay, another drama on tl.net!
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
September 24 2006 05:57 GMT
#5
wow, that's some great news. unfair that poor kosiro got judged so fast~
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
September 24 2006 05:58 GMT
#6
hmm. any more information, responses?
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
September 24 2006 05:59 GMT
#7
I hope it's true. I personally find the "bwchart fingerprint" idea to be bullshit. Hotkeys, APM and action percentages can vary greatly from game to game. Unfortunately, I've never seen any significant literature defending the practice of bwchart analysis and so there's nothing for me to argue against.
Peyong
Profile Joined August 2006
Trinidad/Tobago119 Posts
September 24 2006 05:59 GMT
#8
Great News, tl.net needs him
Sea, Sun and Sand
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
September 24 2006 06:01 GMT
#9
How did people suspect he cheated in the first place?
new_construct
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1041 Posts
September 24 2006 06:01 GMT
#10
thank god
iOi
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada1255 Posts
September 24 2006 06:02 GMT
#11
I hope he be back in TL team
new_construct
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1041 Posts
September 24 2006 06:03 GMT
#12
On September 24 2006 14:59 NonY wrote:
I hope it's true. I personally find the "bwchart fingerprint" idea to be bullshit. Hotkeys, APM and action percentages can vary greatly from game to game. Unfortunately, I've never seen any significant literature defending the practice of bwchart analysis and so there's nothing for me to argue against.

totally agree, plus the games are insanely short, players apm can vary greatly during that short amount of time.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 24 2006 06:03 GMT
#13
Caps is not needed, people will read it anyway .

Thanks a lot for the headsup NeverDieDrone!
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
September 24 2006 06:03 GMT
#14
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 24 2006 06:04 GMT
#15
oooh romad/midian wrong? That'd be a first. Or does Kosiro's treachery know no bounds? STAY TUNED!
NeVeRDiEDrOnE
Profile Joined January 2005
Korea (South)227 Posts
September 24 2006 06:04 GMT
#16
no further infos from Korean side yet cuz the reply was posted few h's ago and now it's 7 AM in Korea.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
September 24 2006 06:04 GMT
#17
I hope its true.
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Peyong
Profile Joined August 2006
Trinidad/Tobago119 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-24 06:06:34
September 24 2006 06:04 GMT
#18
On September 24 2006 15:03 new_construct wrote:
plus the games are insanely short, players apm can vary greatly during that short amount of time.


This is true !

Unless he does like Midas and sets hotkeys 1-0 to CC at the beginning of the game. A pattern like that is easy to trace; but i'm not sure if kosiro has an early game hotkey pattern.
Sea, Sun and Sand
JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
September 24 2006 06:04 GMT
#19
O no! The dramallama followed you home
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
September 24 2006 06:04 GMT
#20
Yay Kosiro!

In this case, I am willing to believe Kosiro. I mean, most progamers are very manner, and deserve benefit of doubt.
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