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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
July 31 2013 20:22 GMT
#281
Make a motion for administrative decision. Pending this, I will not deny the team that played honestly throughout the entire league (and should bear no penalty as a result), the team that I honestly played for and supported through out the season, the opportunity to use me as a practice partner for the next season..
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
July 31 2013 20:30 GMT
#282
Good time for that captains vote lmaster.
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 20:32:53
July 31 2013 20:31 GMT
#283
No one can stop you practicing with sunkan but people's tongues will wag just because you are associated with the team
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
July 31 2013 20:52 GMT
#284
I would invite those people to check the replays, match hotkeys, check APMs, etc. If no rules are broken then people can say whatever they want, it doesn't change anything.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
July 31 2013 21:04 GMT
#285
On August 01 2013 05:52 Jealous wrote:
I would invite those people to check the replays, match hotkeys, check APMs, etc. If no rules are broken then people can say whatever they want, it doesn't change anything.


It would be best for Sun-khan if you stepped away. Pebble is better then your hate anyday.
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 31 2013 21:38 GMT
#286
On August 01 2013 02:51 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Were are all the free agents?

Is stealth bunnies 2 taking everyone before a draft??

No we're not
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 21:57:52
July 31 2013 21:52 GMT
#287
On August 01 2013 06:38 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 02:51 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Were are all the free agents?

Is stealth bunnies 2 taking everyone before a draft??

No we're not



We? You not stealth bunnies 2........ wtf are you lot playing at?

Drafts same as last year. Free agents sign up and we draft them out before the start of the season. Oh but thats right ppl were stealing players last year also, EXCEPT for me. Why do the rules exist if no-one is following them?

Please explain
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 31 2013 23:15 GMT
#288
On August 01 2013 06:38 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 02:51 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Were are all the free agents?

Is stealth bunnies 2 taking everyone before a draft??

No we're not
Your not making a very good case that SB2 is anything more than your puppet.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#289
On August 01 2013 08:15 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 06:38 Birdie wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:51 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Were are all the free agents?

Is stealth bunnies 2 taking everyone before a draft??

No we're not
Your not making a very good case that SB2 is anything more than your puppet.

I'm recruiting for sB until we have around 14 players, then arca and themarine are taking half and forming their own team. Their team is basically complete but sB needs more players to make up the numbers now, we're not far off.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
August 01 2013 08:20 GMT
#290
So your using draft players to fill sB, then your splitting that team in 2. Where as you recruited everyone into stealth bunnies but only half u will captain? Nope zero sense.

Arca n marine are captaining Half of sB? Thats wat happening? You think thats fine?
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
August 01 2013 11:12 GMT
#291
On August 01 2013 17:20 Cpt.beefy wrote:
So your using draft players to fill sB, then your splitting that team in 2. Where as you recruited everyone into stealth bunnies but only half u will captain? Nope zero sense.

Arca n marine are captaining Half of sB? Thats wat happening? You think thats fine?

I'm not taking any free agent players (except RulZBoooM might have been a free agent), I'm talking to friends of mine which I've played with and practice partners and so on. The team was already too large for one team, so it's easier for me to recruit a couple more players and split it into two so everyone gets more game time and there's more teams in the league. This also lets Arca and TheMarine have the experience of running a team, which is both very fun and a good learning experience for all sorts of different skills. I think that's fine, yup. I won't be running the team they run. L_Master has said that as long as I'm not running the other team and the rosters are separate, it's fine, and I agree with him; I no longer want to run both teams, and separate rosters is of course necessary.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
August 01 2013 11:41 GMT
#292
Rank: D
ICCUP account: Miso
Race: Zerg (Main Protoss but msg'ed l_master about it)
Known as Miso or LTY
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2500 Posts
August 01 2013 11:56 GMT
#293
Birdie, i' m sorry to say your approach here is wrong. To recruite other player IS part of managing/running a team. If you are recruiting players for them, thats not a good start at all. As Lmaster said, running a team is okay if done by others. Running means also in my experience recruiting players. If you are recruiting the players, during the league these players will see you no matter what as some kind of reference. I saw the LOL posts, but lol is a different game, tuned in to a stream once didn' t understand anything remided me of warcraft 3 (which i believe it comes from). This situation is going to cause harm to the league. Mark my words. If you really want this to work, my advice is let Arca/marine deal with recruiting, let them decide which players your going to be splitting. Maybe you are doing things like this already, anyway sometimes it is best to do nothing at all and let others in order to make things happen in the best of ways.

About pre-recruit:

Sun Khan has drafted to our team omoy. Talks are on of drafting Nikon as well should he wish to join. Last season we did this somewhat as well.

In season 2, when there where TONS of new players, it would make sense, but here, i feel that new people need to be embraced asap. However we have not indeed followed the rules. We will not draft anyone new from now, until league sign-up is closed or rule is changed ( Maybe this rule should be discussed for change.)

"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
August 01 2013 12:11 GMT
#294
On August 01 2013 20:56 pebble444 wrote:
Birdie, i' m sorry to say your approach here is wrong. To recruite other player IS part of managing/running a team. If you are recruiting players for them, thats not a good start at all. As Lmaster said, running a team is okay if done by others. Running means also in my experience recruiting players. If you are recruiting the players, during the league these players will see you no matter what as some kind of reference. I saw the LOL posts, but lol is a different game, tuned in to a stream once didn' t understand anything remided me of warcraft 3 (which i believe it comes from). This situation is going to cause harm to the league. Mark my words. If you really want this to work, my advice is let Arca/marine deal with recruiting, let them decide which players your going to be splitting. Maybe you are doing things like this already, anyway sometimes it is best to do nothing at all and let others in order to make things happen in the best of ways.

As I said before, the team that Arca and TheMarine are going to run is already essentially complete; but for the split to go ahead, sB that I'm running needs a couple more players. If we can't find any more then the split won't happen. Right now Arca and TheMarine are not captains of any team, I'm captain of around 11 players. If I find 3 more people to join my team then I will request for Arca and TheMarine to leave along with 5 other players, to form their own team for the duration of this league. Then there will be their team and my team. Right now, there is only my team, and I am recruiting for them, and I am allowed to recruit as many as I want for them. I'm not recruiting them for Arca/Marine's team, I'm recruiting them for my team, Team Stealth Bunnies.

What's going to happen is a team SPLIT, not arca/marine leaving to form a new team per se. It'll be half of an old team forming a new team, not two players forming a new team. They will be their own team, don't get me wrong, they're running it not me (gl with that guys ;D). Until the team is split, I'm in charge.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 01 2013 14:59 GMT
#295
When will draft happen?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
August 01 2013 16:00 GMT
#296
On August 01 2013 06:52 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 06:38 Birdie wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:51 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Were are all the free agents?

Is stealth bunnies 2 taking everyone before a draft??

No we're not



We? You not stealth bunnies 2........ wtf are you lot playing at?

Drafts same as last year. Free agents sign up and we draft them out before the start of the season. Oh but thats right ppl were stealing players last year also, EXCEPT for me. Why do the rules exist if no-one is following them?

Please explain

On August 01 2013 20:56 pebble444 wrote:
About pre-recruit:

Sun Khan has drafted to our team omoy. Talks are on of drafting Nikon as well should he wish to join. Last season we did this somewhat as well.

In season 2, when there where TONS of new players, it would make sense, but here, i feel that new people need to be embraced asap. However we have not indeed followed the rules. We will not draft anyone new from now, until league sign-up is closed or rule is changed ( Maybe this rule should be discussed for change.)


If you guys are truly dead set on this whole draft business, it should've been specified in the OP that new players should PM their applications to the admin instead of posting in the thread. Otherwise, it's far too easy to poach new players. The worst part is, this was an issue in prior seasons, and it'll continue to be an issue until something is actually done about it.

Seriously, the same problems happen season after season (walkover/postponement rampancy, the vague skill cutoff, etc), and they're never addressed.
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 01 2013 16:07 GMT
#297
I'm joining whatever team missclick is on. K, thanks
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
August 01 2013 16:45 GMT
#298
On August 02 2013 01:00 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 06:52 Cpt.beefy wrote:
On August 01 2013 06:38 Birdie wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:51 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Were are all the free agents?

Is stealth bunnies 2 taking everyone before a draft??

No we're not



We? You not stealth bunnies 2........ wtf are you lot playing at?

Drafts same as last year. Free agents sign up and we draft them out before the start of the season. Oh but thats right ppl were stealing players last year also, EXCEPT for me. Why do the rules exist if no-one is following them?

Please explain

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:56 pebble444 wrote:
About pre-recruit:

Sun Khan has drafted to our team omoy. Talks are on of drafting Nikon as well should he wish to join. Last season we did this somewhat as well.

In season 2, when there where TONS of new players, it would make sense, but here, i feel that new people need to be embraced asap. However we have not indeed followed the rules. We will not draft anyone new from now, until league sign-up is closed or rule is changed ( Maybe this rule should be discussed for change.)


If you guys are truly dead set on this whole draft business, it should've been specified in the OP that new players should PM their applications to the admin instead of posting in the thread. Otherwise, it's far too easy to poach new players. The worst part is, this was an issue in prior seasons, and it'll continue to be an issue until something is actually done about it.

Seriously, the same problems happen season after season (walkover/postponement rampancy, the vague skill cutoff, etc), and they're never addressed.


they're never addressed because the amount of people who want to play is small and people will ragequit if they actually are
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 01 2013 17:21 GMT
#299
On August 01 2013 21:11 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:56 pebble444 wrote:
Birdie, i' m sorry to say your approach here is wrong. To recruite other player IS part of managing/running a team. If you are recruiting players for them, thats not a good start at all. As Lmaster said, running a team is okay if done by others. Running means also in my experience recruiting players. If you are recruiting the players, during the league these players will see you no matter what as some kind of reference. I saw the LOL posts, but lol is a different game, tuned in to a stream once didn' t understand anything remided me of warcraft 3 (which i believe it comes from). This situation is going to cause harm to the league. Mark my words. If you really want this to work, my advice is let Arca/marine deal with recruiting, let them decide which players your going to be splitting. Maybe you are doing things like this already, anyway sometimes it is best to do nothing at all and let others in order to make things happen in the best of ways.

As I said before, the team that Arca and TheMarine are going to run is already essentially complete; but for the split to go ahead, sB that I'm running needs a couple more players. If we can't find any more then the split won't happen. Right now Arca and TheMarine are not captains of any team, I'm captain of around 11 players. If I find 3 more people to join my team then I will request for Arca and TheMarine to leave along with 5 other players, to form their own team for the duration of this league. Then there will be their team and my team. Right now, there is only my team, and I am recruiting for them, and I am allowed to recruit as many as I want for them. I'm not recruiting them for Arca/Marine's team, I'm recruiting them for my team, Team Stealth Bunnies.

What's going to happen is a team SPLIT, not arca/marine leaving to form a new team per se. It'll be half of an old team forming a new team, not two players forming a new team. They will be their own team, don't get me wrong, they're running it not me (gl with that guys ;D). Until the team is split, I'm in charge.

Let me get this straight.

You're recruiting players for the express purpose of giving those players to another team, whose captains you are appointing.

If you were a single team, faithfully pursuing its own affairs, the scenario would be: "Well, we have a full roster. There's no point in recruiting more because our roster is more than complete. All of you might not get play time, so if you wanna leave/form your own team/look for another team that's fine."

Instead you have a direct hand in the inception and organization (recruiting manpower and appointing leadership) of another team, and try to play it off as an organic, naturally occurring split? You're telling us plain as day that this is all part of your plan, and you expect us to think, "Oh he somehow came by way too many players for his team that already has a full roster, when every other team in the league is struggling to complete their roster or have any players left to draft."

I don't think you're trying to be abusive, but I hope I've illustrated how unfair your proposition could appear to the other remaining teams.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
August 01 2013 18:06 GMT
#300
Despa is probably on the bare minimum amount of players to compete this time around, but if we can get Miss.Click, and tonight, and if Draw takes me up on my bet if I win captains tourny he would coach Despa, there could be some balance.
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