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On March 20 2013 12:25 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 12:19 arb wrote:
Really need to just hand out WOs or make the day of the games the only time you can play.
waiting a week or more on someone for a game is really stupid. letting mSj into the league in the first place when half of them dont speak english, dont show up, dont post on teamliquid was a retarded idea too. Well, that's virtually the same for NW Power, but they did a fairly decent job at showing up during DRATL, sometimes showing up with way more than 4 players... Just that they seem to have a harder time showing up for DRTL and a slightly later time... But it's okay, I share your frustration. Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 12:14 Birdie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
sB vs TAKK has had two games played, myself and Stratos's games. The other players didn't show on the match day and haven't contacted us yet, although TheMarine's skype has been given to one.
All of sB vs TAKK games have been played and the reps have been submitted, and I don't mean to be rude, but.. + Show Spoiler +The rules are that the winning team submits the replays. Why were WE required to submit replays, Birdie...? T_T
woah woah.. chill out boys 
its just that most of our players are a little older and they cant always manage to show up.. yes we have a big lineup but that doesnt help unfortunately ;( but I think we are doing a good job showing up and if not, rescheduling games. The only wo was between ali.g and arb.. but that wont happen again
ps - ill send the reps from freedom but first, I will have to know where to send them.
Cheers!
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Winning team sends replays to drits5@yahoo.com following the matches.
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mSj[prokaznik] pm me with the time when you can play. It's hard to contact anyone without knowing their TL ids...
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On March 20 2013 15:49 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 12:25 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 20 2013 12:19 arb wrote:
Really need to just hand out WOs or make the day of the games the only time you can play.
waiting a week or more on someone for a game is really stupid. letting mSj into the league in the first place when half of them dont speak english, dont show up, dont post on teamliquid was a retarded idea too. Well, that's virtually the same for NW Power, but they did a fairly decent job at showing up during DRATL, sometimes showing up with way more than 4 players... Just that they seem to have a harder time showing up for DRTL and a slightly later time... But it's okay, I share your frustration. On March 20 2013 12:14 Birdie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
sB vs TAKK has had two games played, myself and Stratos's games. The other players didn't show on the match day and haven't contacted us yet, although TheMarine's skype has been given to one.
All of sB vs TAKK games have been played and the reps have been submitted, and I don't mean to be rude, but.. + Show Spoiler +The rules are that the winning team submits the replays. Why were WE required to submit replays, Birdie...? T_T woah woah.. chill out boys its just that most of our players are a little older and they cant always manage to show up.. yes we have a big lineup but that doesnt help unfortunately ;( but I think we are doing a good job showing up and if not, rescheduling games. The only wo was between ali.g and arb.. but that wont happen again ps - ill send the reps from freedom but first, I will have to know where to send them. Cheers!
+ Show Spoiler +Well, technically, there's been 3 walkovers, since Pumpkin[KDV] and Ali.G didn't show up on Week 2... We were just nice enough to accept subs, even if they were against completely different players, with one having a track record of reaching C- and one being a totally different race than what our player had originally practiced for.
It's cool if you have a large team and you can't have everyone from your team show up every week, but if you couldn't field at least 5 players a week, then you should've thought twice about becoming a team for DRTL... >.>
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We had no problems playing vs NW, and actually NW players were very friendly and good manners, with ali.g and arb being the only issue.
Please avoid accusations and somehow offensive posts towards teams.
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On March 20 2013 22:22 fabiano wrote:
We had no problems playing vs NW, and actually NW players were very friendly and good manners, with ali.g and arb being the only issue.
Please avoid accusations and somehow offensive posts towards teams.
Yes, but not being able to play one game is more than enough, and with NW vs TAKK, there were 2 cases of such instance.
It's hardly offensive, if you're doing everything on purpose, and knowing Sinedd a bit, I doubt he's doing it on purpose. It's just a simple observation in that some of his players that are in the lineup don't show at all.
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On March 21 2013 02:41 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 22:22 fabiano wrote:
We had no problems playing vs NW, and actually NW players were very friendly and good manners, with ali.g and arb being the only issue.
Please avoid accusations and somehow offensive posts towards teams. Yes, but not being able to play one game is more than enough, and with NW vs TAKK, there were 2 cases of such instance. It's hardly offensive, if you're doing everything on purpose, and knowing Sinedd a bit, I doubt he's doing it on purpose. It's just a simple observation in that some of his players that are in the lineup don't show at all.
ali.g had some family issues afaik and pumpkin messed up saturday with sunday.. so I couldnt do anything about it..
but I dont think its gonna happen again, everyone is gonna show up on time and stuff
chill out its just a fun league I know that everybody wants to win for prestige but lets try having fun doing it !
cheers
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I think the league has been pretty lax about enforcing the rules, and I think in the future the following rules should be enforced way harder:
Winning team sends replays to drits5@yahoo.com following the matches.
Winning team's captain must PM me the result of their match.
Games may be postponed between players IF the postponement is scheduled at least 12 hours ahead of the match time and both captain were notified.
Alternatively I'd suggest instead of winning team having to send the replays, the sets won by each team should be submitted by that team.
So if for example Sb. vs TAKK plays and it would be 3-2
if Sb. only submits one winning replay and TAKK submits both of theirs, the score will be 1-2 in their favour. This will motivate teams to get fucking organized with replay submission, if teams want to actually have scores reflect their performance.
Similarly I think each team should be given 2 emergency PPs for the season which can be used on the day, but otherwise there should be no substitution or PPs on the day. Walkovers should be handed out within an hour of match-time commencing.
Everyone saying oh its all just fun and games, of course it is when you actually are having fun and getting your games. However the people who are WASTING other people's time should be punished for that, time is after all valuable, especially when it's people's free time.
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Thanks to Maciej for showing up on time!
NW v TAKK is now entirely complete. If anyone wants reps let me know.
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On March 20 2013 12:13 Nagisama wrote:
Week 1:
mSj vs DeSPA and NW Power vs Ace never emailed in replays. For all I know, they never happened and people made up numbers.
Like I pointed out, my autoreplay function doesn't work, so I don't have the replay from my own game between NW Power and Ace. I have the rest though. To get the missing replay, you would have to ask MoreAndMore or Sinedd. I could send in the other replays, but I figure it would be better if Sinedd sent in all of them.
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How hard is it to click save replay after the game? I do my own and auto replay as well to be double safe
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On March 21 2013 04:42 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
How hard is it to click save replay after the game? I do my own and auto replay as well to be double safe
The auto-replay stopped working for 2 weeks before I noticed it. I've never had this problem before.
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On March 21 2013 03:57 ninini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 12:13 Nagisama wrote:
Week 1:
mSj vs DeSPA and NW Power vs Ace never emailed in replays. For all I know, they never happened and people made up numbers. Like I pointed out, my autoreplay function doesn't work, so I don't have the replay from my own game between NW Power and Ace. I have the rest though. To get the missing replay, you would have to ask MoreAndMore or Sinedd. I could send in the other replays, but I figure it would be better if Sinedd sent in all of them.
I dont have any.. I thought the winning team sends them ?
;(
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On March 21 2013 05:06 ninini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 04:42 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
How hard is it to click save replay after the game? I do my own and auto replay as well to be double safe The auto-replay stopped working for 2 weeks before I noticed it. I've never had this problem before.
Getting ur own replay is mandaory so fix any issues you have with autosave NOW.
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On March 21 2013 05:20 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 03:57 ninini wrote:On March 20 2013 12:13 Nagisama wrote:
Week 1:
mSj vs DeSPA and NW Power vs Ace never emailed in replays. For all I know, they never happened and people made up numbers. Like I pointed out, my autoreplay function doesn't work, so I don't have the replay from my own game between NW Power and Ace. I have the rest though. To get the missing replay, you would have to ask MoreAndMore or Sinedd. I could send in the other replays, but I figure it would be better if Sinedd sent in all of them. I dont have any.. I thought the winning team sends them ? ;(
I sent in all replays now from W1 NW vs Ace, except for L1ghtning vs MoreAndMore. If someone has it, you can send it in or give it to lmaster.
On March 21 2013 06:13 Cpt.beefy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 05:06 ninini wrote:On March 21 2013 04:42 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
How hard is it to click save replay after the game? I do my own and auto replay as well to be double safe The auto-replay stopped working for 2 weeks before I noticed it. I've never had this problem before. Getting ur own replay is mandaory so fix any issues you have with autosave NOW.
It's fixed.
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So if for example Sb. vs TAKK plays and it would be 3-2
if Sb. only submits one winning replay and TAKK submits both of theirs, the score will be 1-2 in their favour. This will motivate teams to get fucking organized with replay submission, if teams want to actually have scores reflect their performance.
Just want to point out that you then need to implement a deadline for replay submission, which if I recall correctly doesn't exist at the moment. And with postponed matches sometimes taking as long as a week after the ordinary match time, any deadline is going to be problematic. Because of the way the league works there's nothing inherently wrong with having a week late game, except for the difficulty of having that set cast, and having scores posted. The outcome of the match doesn't change when the match is played late.
Games may be postponed between players IF the postponement is scheduled at least 12 hours ahead of the match time and both captain were notified.
Also I should point out that mSj never notified me that their players would not show up so technically we should have been given a walkover immediately instead of several days later; I dislike taking walkovers so I'm almost never going to ask for this rule to be enforced but if it's there it should be enforced.
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On March 21 2013 06:55 Birdie wrote:
a deadline for replay submission, which if I recall correctly doesn't exist at the moment.
You don' t recall correctly. Matter of fact you don' t even play Protoss. You cannot Recall 
Nagisama said the Deadline was 24 hours after Play time max.
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On March 21 2013 07:01 pebble444 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 06:55 Birdie wrote:
a deadline for replay submission, which if I recall correctly doesn't exist at the moment. You don' t recall correctly. Matter of fact you don' t even play Protoss. You cannot Recall Nagisama said the Deadline was 24 hours after Play time max.
Nagisama isn't an administrator of the league; as far as I know L_Master is the main admin and CobaltBlu and I are both helping out if needed, with Nagisama handling a lot of the replay stuff and liquipedia results. Unless L_Master says he's an admin and that his rule of replay deadline submission is binding I have no reason to believe it is anything more than Nagisama's wishes.
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On March 21 2013 06:14 ninini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 05:20 Sinedd wrote:On March 21 2013 03:57 ninini wrote:On March 20 2013 12:13 Nagisama wrote:
Week 1:
mSj vs DeSPA and NW Power vs Ace never emailed in replays. For all I know, they never happened and people made up numbers. Like I pointed out, my autoreplay function doesn't work, so I don't have the replay from my own game between NW Power and Ace. I have the rest though. To get the missing replay, you would have to ask MoreAndMore or Sinedd. I could send in the other replays, but I figure it would be better if Sinedd sent in all of them. I dont have any.. I thought the winning team sends them ? ;( I sent in all replays now from W1 NW vs Ace, except for L1ghtning vs MoreAndMore. If someone has it, you can send it in or give it to lmaster. Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 06:13 Cpt.beefy wrote:On March 21 2013 05:06 ninini wrote:On March 21 2013 04:42 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
How hard is it to click save replay after the game? I do my own and auto replay as well to be double safe The auto-replay stopped working for 2 weeks before I noticed it. I've never had this problem before. Getting ur own replay is mandaory so fix any issues you have with autosave NOW. It's fixed.
ok neat
gonna ask MaM about that replay tomorrow.
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