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On March 08 2013 00:52 EchOne wrote: Just to double check: is the format for this weekend still Bo5 no ace? And then future weeks may be different?
Funny, I asked that very thing, and never got an answer... I'd assume so, though, since all the arguments, poll, and Lmaster leaned toward a Bo5 with no ace match.
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Yea, Echo you have it correct. Sticking with the double FS tho since I had already announced it.
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mSj
Still need your captain to add me on skype.
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On March 07 2013 05:47 Jealous wrote:Poll: Match format?Bo5 no ace (22) 51% Bo7 w/ ace (20) 47% Bo7 no ace (1) 2% Bo5 w/ ace (0) 0% 43 total votes Your vote: Match format? (Vote): Bo5 no ace (Vote): Bo5 w/ ace (Vote): Bo7 w/ ace (Vote): Bo7 no ace
Poll: Game format?Bo1 (30) 88% Bo3 (4) 12% 34 total votes Your vote: Game format? (Vote): Bo3 (Vote): Bo1
Actually the poll is in favor of Bo7 w/ace, I hope that this is implemented after this week --;
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I do not feel a poll that is barely in favor of the change is enough to justify it without actual thinking and discussion. As has been brought up, it may be difficult for some teams to get 6 players (granted, this is only 1 extra person). Even if the majority is able to, if you are screwing over 2/9 teams every week so others can have 1 (potentially 2) extra games, I do not consider that a good thing. Another factor is when PP occurs, ace matches may need to be scheduled individually and is more hassle. Not saying it can't be worked around, but it does make things less organized. I do not believe the complaint of players on large teams having to play less games due to a bo5 is a good reason because that is a part of playing on a large team. And to clarify, I do like the idea of a bo7, but I don't want it if that means even 1 team ends up having walkovers as a result.
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It's up to the captains anyway, if everyone is feeling like they can field 6-7 players each week then we can move in that direction.
Ace match in Bo7 is fine, the only potential issue is that teams will routinely have PPed matches, meaning many possible ace matches will occur on Sundays, Mondays, etc. This may or may not be an issue, but is something for the captains to think about.
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Summon a captain conference call on Skype to get these things sorted out 
Polls are not reliable because teams with more players get better vote weighting.
I would like to point out that this discussion is really healthy for the league future. We are getting organized, its normal for things to get messy before consolidation. Don't get frustrated!
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I know it changes the mechanics of ace player a bit, but when they submit their lineup they could also include the ace player and just have the ace matched played on Saturday anyways...
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BO7 is out of the question. I'm not sure if Ace can even field 5 players this week. Phoenix and Courage have expressed similar concerns, and other teams might get into similar situations further into the season.
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bo5 let it be then.. (but bo3 every individual game and games start at the same time !) :D
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On March 08 2013 08:03 Sinedd wrote:bo5 let it be then..  (but bo3 every individual game and games start at the same time !) :D
Games do start at the same time.
Bo3 for every set just doesn't work for most people in the league. Look at those poll results; it's a LANDSLIDE for Bo1, too many players just don't have the time for Bo3 every single week.
Sorry your team is so big, tbh you are big enough you could split into NW A and NW B to get more playtime for people.
On March 08 2013 06:12 traceurling wrote: I know it changes the mechanics of ace player a bit, but when they submit their lineup they could also include the ace player and just have the ace matched played on Saturday anyways...
Doesn't that make it entirely not an ace match?
What part of ace match characteristics is left over if you did that?
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On March 08 2013 09:12 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 08:03 Sinedd wrote:bo5 let it be then..  (but bo3 every individual game and games start at the same time !) :D Games do start at the same time. Bo3 for every set just doesn't work for most people in the league. Look at those poll results; it's a LANDSLIDE for Bo1, too many players just don't have the time for Bo3 every single week. Sorry your team is so big, tbh you are big enough you could split into NW A and NW B to get more playtime for people. Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 06:12 traceurling wrote: I know it changes the mechanics of ace player a bit, but when they submit their lineup they could also include the ace player and just have the ace matched played on Saturday anyways... Doesn't that make it entirely not an ace match? What part of ace match characteristics is left over if you did that? The fact that they wouldn't play if the rest of the team achieves 3 wins.
Which doesn't make any sense to me but w/e.
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On March 08 2013 09:12 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 06:12 traceurling wrote: I know it changes the mechanics of ace player a bit, but when they submit their lineup they could also include the ace player and just have the ace matched played on Saturday anyways... Doesn't that make it entirely not an ace match? What part of ace match characteristics is left over if you did that?
It leaves the part where the best player plays twice...
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On March 08 2013 06:12 traceurling wrote: I know it changes the mechanics of ace player a bit, but when they submit their lineup they could also include the ace player and just have the ace matched played on Saturday anyways... Why would they need to do that in the first place? Whats wrong with a regular Ace match?
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TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies lineup
greenelve <Fighting Spirit> sB.TheMarine
[BB]KaiGreene <Neo Jade> sB.icedraco
RedAxis <Neo Electric Circuit> sB.Taeyeon
sGs.Exy <Circuit Breaker> Arca(Crema)
sGs.Lmaster <Fighting Spirit> sB.Birdie
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On March 08 2013 13:28 SynC[gm] wrote:TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies lineup  greenelve <Fighting Spirit>  sB.TheMarine  [BB]KaiGreene <Neo Jade>  sB.icedraco  RedAxis <Neo Electric Circuit>  sB.Taeyeon  sGs.Exy <Circuit Breaker>  Arca(Crema)  sGs.Lmaster <Fighting Spirit>  sB.Birdie Lookings forward to the Fighting Spirit matches
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Canada4481 Posts
Still waiting on the other half of the lineups. Captains, if you haven't PM'd or emailed or done something to contact Lmaster for submitting your lineups, better do so quickly.
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On March 08 2013 14:09 traceurling wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 13:28 SynC[gm] wrote:TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies lineup  greenelve <Fighting Spirit>  sB.TheMarine  [BB]KaiGreene <Neo Jade>  sB.icedraco  RedAxis <Neo Electric Circuit>  sB.Taeyeon  sGs.Exy <Circuit Breaker>  Arca(Crema)  sGs.Lmaster <Fighting Spirit>  sB.Birdie Lookings forward to the Fighting Spirit matches 
No love for the Neo Electric Circuit game...? :[
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So?
I see TAKK and SB have sent lineups, DeSPA too and Sun Khan and Courage have too,
If they are any teams that have not i suggest a -1 game penalty(example team 1 wins 3-2 they get 1 Point but since they submited line-up late they have win/loss ratio of 2-2 (valid for playoff reasons) in the score for each 24 Hours of lateness unless they have a valid reason. Maybe then team captains will start to be on time.
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