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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On January 19 2013 14:30 GGzerG wrote: I really didn't expect Zergs to do so well in this , i'm really surprised by these stats. We're letting them have a false sense of security so when the main event happens we will just crush them ezpz. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On January 19 2013 21:23 stevewch wrote: z is dominating in foreign scene... Z in 2012 is like P was in 2007 - 2009. I wonder why | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
Also, i'd like to point out that Electric Circuit initially seemed pretty Zerg favored in ZvT, it's just as time went on Terrans adapted and figured out the correct way to play the map and shifted the map balance (same with PvZ). Perhaps Terrans just need to learn some new builds? Or/and do a better latemech switch lol | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2056 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On January 21 2013 02:25 ArvickHero wrote: Updated up to Q3. Thank you all for pointing out errors so far, they have been corrected .. though I can't guarantee there won't be new ones :p lol Also, i'd like to point out that Electric Circuit initially seemed pretty Zerg favored in ZvT, it's just as time went on Terrans adapted and figured out the correct way to play the map and shifted the map balance (same with PvZ). Perhaps Terrans just need to learn some new builds? Or/and do a better latemech switch lol thanks a lot Also @ FS, I PvZ southpark once and you have it double posted as PvT. Time to be a dick NSFW! + Show Spoiler + Protoss vs Zerg is almost at a normal expectancy of 45-46%. I watched today's games and looked at the results and saw barely any protoss beating zergs, then I started to tabulate (as I am a bored arrogant bastard). We'll call this, the draw factor. PvZ Overall: 47-61 43.5% Draw: 14-7 67% Overall-Draw: 33-54 38% @Jade Overall: 15-15 50% Draw: 4-1 80% O-D: 11-14 44% @EC Overall: 9-17 34.6% Draw: 3-3 50% O-D: 7-14 33% @FS Overall: 23-29 44% Draw: 7-2 78% O-D: 16-27 37% So the overall PvZ was bumped 5.5% from my matches alone, and I happened to throw a game vs JimBG in a troll fashion. Jade PvZ was bumped 6%, EC was the lowest win% and only bumped 1.6% [with only a 50% win rate, I can see why it wasn't increased that much]. Finally, FS was bumped a whole 7%, seems like Protoss are not too comfortable on this map in the match-up. Conclusion, The Draw Factor or TDF is a real thing, we need more Protosses to start using it to increase our win-rates against these zerg scums. Ultimately, if anyone happens to have similar conclusions or statistics (i.e Terror is the only terran winning on X map) let me know. | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
Does this mean draw is match fixing????????? | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
(Also updated for Q4) | ||
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TelecoM
United States10691 Posts
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Sum41
Chile345 Posts
On January 21 2013 13:12 HawaiianPig wrote: draw is to Protoss as savior is to Zerg? Does this mean draw is match fixing????????? no... he's like Savior between end of 2005 and 2007, a badass winning when no other guy using his same race does. Savior didn't match fixed in his era of dominance, it was a couple of years later | ||
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thezanursic
5497 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On January 21 2013 05:02 FyRe_DragOn wrote: in determining the top12, how are players chosen of the same points? For example lets say # 11, 12, 13, 14 etc all had 80points, what happens then? was this ever answered? | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On January 21 2013 05:02 FyRe_DragOn wrote: in determining the top12, how are players chosen of the same points? For example lets say # 11, 12, 13, 14 etc all had 80points, what happens then? Looking at the wiki, I thought the ties would be resolved through playoffs. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On January 22 2013 12:26 Hesmyrr wrote: Sorry to nitpick, but it should be "Points Table as of Qualifier 4" if my understanding is correct. Fixed, thanks for pointing it out. | ||
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thezanursic
5497 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On January 22 2013 15:29 thezanursic wrote: Must should really try a little harder to qualify because he could do it easily... he should have tried all the qualifiers because he is inconsistent and I can see him qualifying and also not qualifying. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
#1 Terror ![[image loading]](http://reps.ru/flags/Peru.gif)  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 16-6 (72.3%) vs  6-5 (54.5%)vs  6-1 (85.6%)vs 4-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 5-2 (71.4%) vs 2-2 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%)Jade Overall: 5-2 (71.4%) vs 1-2 (33%)vs 2-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%)FS Overall: 6-2 (75%) vs 3-1 (75%)vs 3-1 (75%)vs 0-0Achievements Q1: Ro4 -> 0-2 vs Eonzerg Q2: Ro8 -> 0-2 vs Bakuryu Q3: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Julia Q4: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Dredre /#2 Voddy  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 13-5 (72.2%) vs 3-1 (75%)vs 8-4 (67%)vs 4-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 5-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 4-0 (100%)vs 0-0 Jade Overall: 4-1 (80%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)FS Overall: 5-4 (55.6%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 3-3 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)Achievements Q1: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Draw Q2: Ro8 -> 1-2 vs Draw Q3: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Dewalt Q4: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Drone #3 Jim[BG]  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 12-6 (67%) vs 4-1 (80%)vs 4-4 (50%)vs 4-1 (80%)By Map EC Overall: 3-2 (60%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-1 (67%)vs 0-1 (0%)Jade Overall: 3-1 (75%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)FS Overall: 6-3 (67%) vs 2-1 (67%)vs 1-2 (33%)vs 3-0 (100%)Achievements Q1: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Eonzerg Q2: Ro128 -> 0-1 vs LancerX Q3: Ro4 -> 1-2 vs Draw Q4: Ro32-> 0-1 vs Drone #4 TTF ![[image loading]](http://reps.ru/flags/Russia.gif) + Show Spoiler + Overall: 8-5 (61.5%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 5-2 (71.4%)vs 2-2 (50%)By Map EC Overall: 2-2 (50%) vs 0-0 vs 2-1 (67%)vs 0-1 (0%)Jade Overall: 2-3 (40%) vs 0-1 (0%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-1 (50%)FS Overall: 4-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%)vs 1-0 (100%)Achievements Q1: Ro8-> 0-2 vs Terror Q2: Ro64 -> 0-1 vs Julia Q3: Ro8 -> 0-2 vs Draw Q4: -> Didn't Participate #5 Enjoyme  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 13-5 (72.2%) vs 2-3 (40%)vs 6-1 (85.7%)vs 3-1 (75%)By Map EC Overall: 3-1 (75%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 2-0 (100%)vs 0-0 Jade Overall: 3-2 (60%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)FS Overall: 5-2 (71.4%) vs 0-1 (0%)vs 3-0 (100%)vs 2-1 (67%)Achievements Q1: Ro8 -> 1-2 vs Bakuryu Q2: Ro64 -> 0-1 vs Dienmax Q3: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs TTF Q4: Ro132 -> 0-1 vs Dashwriter #6 Nemu  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 9-4 (69.2%) vs 5-2 (71.4%)vs 3-2 (60%)vs 1-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 2-2 (50%) vs 2-1 (67%)vs 0-1 (0%)vs 0-0 Jade Overall: 3-1 (80%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 2-0 (100%)vs 0-0 FS Overall: 4-1 (8%) vs 2-0 (100%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)Achievements Q1: Ro32-> 0-1 vs Draw Q2: Ro8 -> 0-2 vs Trutacz Q3:-> Didn't Participate Q4: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Hellerine #7 ZZZero ![[image loading]](http://reps.ru/flags/Poland.gif) + Show Spoiler + Overall: 8-3 (72.7%) vs 5-3 (62.5%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 2-1 (67%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 0-0 Jade Overall: 3-2 (60%) vs 1-2 (50%)vs 0-0 vs 2-0 (100%)FS Overall: 3-0 (100%) vs 3-0 (100%)vs 0-0 vs 0-0 Achievements Q1: -> Didn't Participate Q2: -> Didn't Participate Q3: Ro4 -> 0-2 vs SouthPark Q4: -> Didn't Participate #7 Drone  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 7-4 (63.6%) vs 3-4 (42.9%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 3-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 2-1 (67%) vs 2-1 (67%)vs 0-0 vs 0-0 Jade Overall: 1-3 (25%) vs 0-3 (0%)vs 0-0 vs 1-0 (100%)FS Overall: 4-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%) Achievements Q1: -> Didn't Participate Q2: -> Didn't Participate Q3: Ro64 -> 0-1 vs Naugrim Q4: Ro4 -> 0-2 vs Julia #7 Hellerine  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 7-3 (70%) vs 4-1 (80%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-2 (50%)By Map EC Overall: 1-2 (33%) vs 0-1 (0%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 0-1 (0%)Jade Overall: 3-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 0-0 vs 2-0 (100%)FS Overall: 3-1 (75%) vs 3-0 (100%)vs 0-0 vs 0-1 (0%)Achievements Q1: -> Didn't Participate Q2: -> Didn't Participate Q3: -> Didn't Participate Q4: Ro4 -> 1-2 vs Dredre #10 Dewalt + Show Spoiler + Overall: 7-3 (70%) vs 3-0 (100%)vs 2-2 (50%)vs 2-1 (67%)By Map EC Overall: 2-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 0-0 (100%)Jade Overall: 2-1 (67%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 0-1 (0%)FS Overall: 3-2 (60%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-2 (33%)vs 1-0 (100%)Achievements Q1: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Enjoyme Q2: Didn't Participate Q3: Ro8 -> 0-2 vs Southpark Q4: Didn't Participate #10 Octzerg  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 8-4 (67%) vs 3-3 (50%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 4-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 3-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (50%)vs 0-0 vs 2-0 (100%)Jade Overall: 2-1 (67%) vs 0-1 (0%)vs 0-0 vs 2-0 (100%)FS Overall: 3-3 (50%) vs 2-2 (50%)vs 1-1 (50%)vs 0-0 Achievements Q1: Ro128 -> 0-1 vs Flip Q2: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Draw Q3: -> Didn't Participate Q4: Ro8 -> 1-2 vs Hellerine #12 Pike + Show Spoiler + Overall: 8-1 (88.9%) vs 3-0 (100%)vs 4-1 (80%)vs 1-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 2-1 (67%) vs 0-0 vs 2-1 (67%)vs 0-0 Jade Overall: 3-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%)vs 0-0 FS Overall: 3-0 (100%) vs 2-0 (100%)vs 0-0 vs 1-0 (100%)Achievements Q1: Ro16 -> WO loss vs LancerX Q2: -> Didn't Participate Q3: Ro16 -> WO loss vs ZZZero Q4: Ro32 -> 0-1 vs Voddy #12 Ace  + Show Spoiler + Overall: 10-3 (76.9%) vs 4-2 (67%)vs 5-1 (83%)vs 1-0 (100%)By Map EC Overall: 3-1 (75%) vs 1-1 (50%)vs 1-0 (100%)vs 1-0 (100%)Jade Overall: 3-0 (100%) vs 1-0 (100%)vs 2-0 (100%)vs 0-0 FS Overall: 4-2 (67%) vs 2-1 (67%)vs 2-1 (67%) vs 0-0 Achievements Q1: Ro64 -> WO loss vs Voddy Q2: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Nemu Q3: Ro16 -> 0-1 vs Draw Q4: Ro32 -> 0-1 vs Cosy Looking at the people below top 12, I am starting to expect the cut off to be around 60 points. I would be surprised by this point, for instance, if Hellerine didn't qualify even if he doesn't show up this weekend. | ||
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PiKe
Poland181 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On January 23 2013 05:02 PiKe wrote: of course Pike has best win ratio - he is madness You better qualify^^ And I want to see you play Draw ! | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6807 Posts
On January 23 2013 05:02 PiKe wrote: of course Pike has best win ratio - he is madness LOL How u have the face to post here!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On January 23 2013 05:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: LOL How u have the face to post here!!!!!!!!!! Pike definitely needs points this weekend :kidca: | ||
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