EPTOk.. if Oov wins, Casy has to take this OSL.
If Boxer wins, It's only right that he cement his place in history.
No matter what happens, July can't win #3 before Boxer.
If that happens... I honestly think in all seriousness... I might quit SC.
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Ok.. if Oov wins, Casy has to take this OSL. If Boxer wins, It's only right that he cement his place in history. No matter what happens, July can't win #3 before Boxer. If that happens... I honestly think in all seriousness... I might quit SC. | ||
ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On February 05 2006 23:05 zgl wrote: If Midas didn't put mines in in his own mineral line, he would have lost the comsat.  If Midas loses the comsat, he would be forced to put mines there anyway; most likely, he would not have survived. The best he could have done was constantly monitoring his SCVs to save them from DT suicide attacks. Considering the pressure, Midas did very well.I disagree. He could've replaced the mines at his ramp, or if he thought entirely necessary, mines behind the mineral line. With only one dt at a time coming and a huge peon lead he never would've lost the comsat, not to mention the fact that he could've used those mines to secure his choke. That one mine killed over a dozen SCVs. You can't rationalize that that was worth it regardless of your newfangled theorycraft. He didn't need to do it. He shouldn't have. He won in spite of that dumb ass move, not because of it. On February 05 2006 23:27 tfeign wrote: That's why when Midas played against July the last time, he completely raped him like a no name newbie? ..... July isn't invincible against ANY terran, especially against a powerhouse like Midas. If Pusan advances, July gets an easy trip to the finals. There is no chance a P is going to take out July in a bo5. If Midas advances, more likely than not, he will rape July in the semis. Though most likely he won't win in it all due to his terrible TvT. I hope Midas wins now so you can see July squish his face. Midas' TvZ is good...against anyone that isn't IPX/GoRush/July. Any of the top kespa Zergs play Midas like a flute. And don't tell me about one game as if that means something. Midas will never beat July in a series, ever. The fact that you think otherwise is nothing short of laughable. | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
On February 06 2006 13:47 ManaBlue wrote: I disagree. He could've replaced the mines at his ramp, or if he thought entirely necessary, mines behind the mineral line. With only one dt at a time coming and a huge peon lead he never would've lost the comsat, not to mention the fact that he could've used those mines to secure his choke. That one mine killed over a dozen SCVs. You can't rationalize that that was worth it regardless of your newfangled theorycraft. He didn't need to do it. He shouldn't have. He won in spite of that dumb ass move, not because of it. If you didn't notice, Pusan had two DTs in Midas' base already and Midas hadn't even finished the comsat yet. At around 20 minutes into the vod, Midas finally has enough energy for one comsat, and he killed one DT. 1. There is one DT left ALREADY IN HIS BASE. 2. Midas won't have enough energy to comsat for a while. This leaves his mineral line unprotected. 3. Now, suppose at this point, Midas decides to put mines behind the mineral line (he had 3 vultures) ** There are two spots in the middle of the mineral line where the DT can go through. Of course, the DT can go through the top and bottom of the mineral line. ** the middle spots are to small for the vultures, they would be killed as they try to go through. ** if he sent the vultures to mine around the same spot, the DT can go into the mineral line and attack the comsat, and still be free to kill SCVs when they come back. ** if he sent the vultures to mine different spots, the DT can kill one of the vultures and go into the mineral line again. Also, that one mine did not kill over a dozen SCVs. It was 8-10. Learn to count. Midas did a good job protecting the choke with mines, but the first two DTs got in because of the sacrifice zealot. | ||
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RivetHead
United States842 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
What I thought about these games which i saw this morning -_-. Pusan vs. Midas on Neo-Forte - Pusan could have won that if he didnt keep on sending dts and did no damage. But Midas made a very good comeback after the intial mine dae bak. July vs. Rock on ride of valkyries - O god the horror. July just fucking owned Rock. But it is interesting to see July play macro passive rich zerg style compared to his usually agreesive poor zerg style. Boxer vs. Oov on cultivation period - The colors were hard as hell to see. Boxer yellow and Oov white. If Boxer didnt miss 3 expo he would have had better chance instead of being steamrolled machine style. Casy vs. Goodfriend on 815 - Casy is very good at dropships. Goodfriend actually had a chance with his first attack but Casy defended and the game was over than. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
and what a joke it is | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
I'm saying there's no "SK Telecom" terran style which ilikestarcraft's post reminded me of. SK Terran is a specific style and a ton of people think its "how the terrans at SK Telecom play", which is wrong. My post wasnt directed at ilikestarcraft it was just an observation and i see now how it doesn't really get the point across. I meant "there is no sk telecom terran style". | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
Enjoying Midas/Pusan a lot. It had the most promise out of the 4 MU's. It wasn't the same "promise" that we expected, but it's been really entertaining. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On February 06 2006 18:59 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Yeah, I know. I'm saying there's no "SK Telecom" terran style which ilikestarcraft's post reminded me of. SK Terran is a specific style and a ton of people think its "how the terrans at SK Telecom play", which is wrong. My post wasnt directed at ilikestarcraft it was just an observation and i see now how it doesn't really get the point across. I meant "there is no sk telecom terran style". I always thought sk terran was named because all the terrans in skt use the style but than i read that someone like named sk or soulkey developed this style and it wasnt popular until like nada started popularizing it. | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On February 06 2006 18:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: manablue the joke is that tfeign thinks july is vulnerable against terran and what a joke it is Particularly Midas. Obviously Oov or Boxer vs July is a clash of the titans match, but Midas? He doesn't beat top Zergs in top shape in series ever. I don't get why people are playing him up now. On February 06 2006 14:53 zgl wrote: If you didn't notice, Pusan had two DTs in Midas' base already and Midas hadn't even finished the comsat yet. At around 20 minutes into the vod, Midas finally has enough energy for one comsat, and he killed one DT. 1. There is one DT left ALREADY IN HIS BASE. 2. Midas won't have enough energy to comsat for a while. This leaves his mineral line unprotected. 3. Now, suppose at this point, Midas decides to put mines behind the mineral line (he had 3 vultures) ** There are two spots in the middle of the mineral line where the DT can go through. Of course, the DT can go through the top and bottom of the mineral line. ** the middle spots are to small for the vultures, they would be killed as they try to go through. ** if he sent the vultures to mine around the same spot, the DT can go into the mineral line and attack the comsat, and still be free to kill SCVs when they come back. ** if he sent the vultures to mine different spots, the DT can kill one of the vultures and go into the mineral line again. Also, that one mine did not kill over a dozen SCVs. It was 8-10. Learn to count. Midas did a good job protecting the choke with mines, but the first two DTs got in because of the sacrifice zealot. Settle down kid, 8-10 is the same as a dozen. I didn't say he blew up exactly 13.4583 SCVs, so cool you're attitude. Would a good player, Midian, Day, Eri, Twisted, someone please comment on this? I feel mines in your own min line is a retarded thing to do. Apparently he doesn't. Why don't any of you get in on this? | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On February 06 2006 19:10 ManaBlue wrote: Particularly Midas. Obviously Oov or Boxer vs July is a clash of the titans match, but Midas? He doesn't beat top Zergs in top shape in series ever. I don't get why people are playing him up now. Settle down kid, 8-10 is the same as a dozen. I didn't say he blew up exactly 13.4583 SCVs, so cool you're attitude. Would a good player, Midian, Day, Eri, Twisted, someone please comment on this? I feel mines in your own min line is a retarded thing to do. Apparently he doesn't. Why don't any of you get in on this? If Midas and July had a bo5 series what do you think the results would be than? 3-0 or 3-1? He wont be like demolished. Like 30-40% chance? July has one of the if not best zvt in progaming but that doesnt mean he can destroy Midas. Like when July had a bo5 with Goodfriend in iops and ever2 he won 3-2 in close games. Goodfriend isnt what you would call like Boxer or Oov but he still gave July a pretty hard time. But i dont want a Midas vs. July semi i rather have a Pusan vs. july cause it would be better. I agree in a sense July has a higher chance of winning but Midas is no pushover even if his tvz is eww sometimes -_-. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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QuietIdiot
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
3-2 over GoRush in the KT-KTF finals, not even very close matches Yellow beats July all the time though.. every other zerg loses more often than not. | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
This is all beside the fact that you can't compare one OSL final to another. The players, the maps, everything is different. But watch the games first. GF got game 1 for free, and pulled out a win somewhere else. 2 games were rape and the last one was a muta micro clinic. Yes, if July faces midas I see a 3-0 or 3-1 finish. You'll see if they play, but if the gods are good to me Pusan will squish Midas' face next week. No one wants to comment on the mines in the mineral field? Steve, what do you think about it? | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
On February 06 2006 19:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: no 3-2 over GoRush in the KT-KTF finals, not even very close matches Yellow beats July all the time though.. every other zerg loses more often than not. but july's zvz is definitely his weakest matchup that's kinda hard to deny. | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
On February 06 2006 19:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: uh GF is really REALLY fucking good at TvZ GF is really fucking good period, but he's underrated and he lacks zing. | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On February 06 2006 22:01 DTDominion wrote: GF is really fucking good period, but he's underrated and he lacks zing. He also lacks win. He played like a chump against Casy in the quarter these past 2 weeks. I haven't seen him play that bad in a long time. His TvT used to seem so dominating back when he sucked worse than he does now. Boo faceless terran. Doesn't change the fact that he's good...but boo. | ||
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