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On March 01 2012 02:50 babysuperga wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:42 Torenhire wrote:On March 01 2012 02:10 poisui wrote:
Dear's fail timings indirectly caused God to cancel his turrets.
Dear's fail timings = win. Dear's "fail timings" were specifically to counter Flash...Dear studied Flash's scanning patters before this weeks match so a) we knew it was a snipe, win coaching for STX b) we can be almost positive it wasn't a fluke. He cancelled his turrets because when Flash did his scans, he didn't see support bay / archives anywhere, so he cancelled his turrets to build a 3rd instead. Cancelling the turrets was his mistake, it almost sounds like Flash's "perfect response" to everything was his own undoing here. If a bad player left the turrets up, instead of cancelling, he might have been alright. Thanks for revealing this. I didn't think about Dear's timings.
To clarify, Flash scanned around looking for the support bay, plus he saw an obs as it flew over his base. Didn't see the Support Bay + Obs First = Flash assumed no speed shuttle + reaver timing.
Dear was like fuck it and went and got speed + reaver anyways (whether it was to throw Flash off, or whether he was hoping Flash was unprepared, or whether he was going to do it anyways). Flash would have been ready for this, but after scouting the third, he cancelled his turrets so he had the money to plop down a third cc.
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Before I went to sleep last night I had a feeling that this would happen.
gah. I wish he had lasted another couple games.
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So Flash basically got metagamed? Well, when your builds are so fine tuned and efficient, it's bound to be exploited at some point. If Flash wasn't God maybe he wouldn't have cancelled those turrets!
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What a sick build by dear. Incredible mind games, totally outsmarted flash. Depite knowing this had to happen eventually, I'm absolutely shocked that flash was outsmarted and outplayed by Dear.
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he only lost cause its 29th of feb. Next loss in 4 years.
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Flash only has a 93% win rate this season. Sluuuump.
Too bad Mind and Wooki couldn't pull through.
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I just rewatched the vod. The brilliance of Dear's timing is hard to exaggerate.
After the first scan hit the main base, Dear sends the Shuttle to wait by the cliff over his natural, to avoid detection (the Probe was already up there). Due to the placement of the Support Bay, the first scan misses it. Then the second scan goes down, but it's also in the main, further to the left, looking for hidden tech. At the same time, the Obs reaches Flash's base, and based on what he's seen with his scans (and perhaps because of the Obs shadow), he cancels his Turrets. Mere seconds later, the Reaver finishes and the Shuttle goes to pick it up. Soon shuttle speed is done as well.
From the first scan until the Shuttle is shown moving towards the main to get the Reaver, these events span about 28 seconds in total, most of them only a few seconds apart. They fit together so perfectly, it makes me think of choreography. It's totally unbelievable Dear pulled that off.
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I decided to go to bed. I decided to go to bed.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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On March 01 2012 03:13 disciple wrote:
he only lost cause its 29th of feb. Next loss in 4 years.
This. haha
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fuck flash why did you lose to him of all people?! flash flashy stay strong and just kick his ass next time.
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okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash.
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Flash is the man for this!
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OH SHIT JUST GOT REAL!!!!!!!!! FFS DEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cannot. Wait. To see that game ^^ :D:D:D:D:DXDXDXD
Edit: Watched it. Freaking Godslayer  Dear!! Killed him straight up!
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On March 01 2012 03:44 beachbeachy wrote:
okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash.
You sound so...bitter. Need a hug?
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On March 01 2012 03:44 beachbeachy wrote:
okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash.
You know, I heard that studying your opponents scouting and scanning patterns, then using their lack of information to your advantage is considered outsmarting someone.
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On March 01 2012 04:13 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 03:44 beachbeachy wrote:
okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash. You know, I heard that studying your opponents scouting and scanning patterns, then using their lack of information to your advantage is considered outsmarting someone.
Aye.
Ignore my STX tag for a moment, and ignoring the rest of your post / comments I could make.
How is successfully hiding your tech not outsmarting your opponent?
Dear didn't do some spectacular epic game, sure, I'll give you that...but Flash kinda got owned. When your play is flawless (like Flash's usually is), hidden tech or something tricky like that is the perfect way to get through the armor.. Dear pretty much played in a way that totally countered Flash. Very similar to how sHy (I think?) dismantled Bogus (the ragequit no gg game)...Protoss forced bogus to 1rax expand by being a cheesy dbag, then played a build that absolutely DECIMATED 1rax FE (2 gate -> Proxy robo + reaver ggson)
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On March 01 2012 03:44 beachbeachy wrote:
okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash.
flash hid his rines and jd missed it
flash hid his rax and best missed it
no outplaying or outsmarting here
whoop dido
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On March 01 2012 04:13 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 03:44 beachbeachy wrote:
okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash. You know, I heard that studying your opponents scouting and scanning patterns, then using their lack of information to your advantage is considered outsmarting someone.
still believe it was a fluke.
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