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On March 19 2012 00:15 Eywa- wrote:
LMAO, you guys want him to wait 40 minutes for your player and then come back on another day to play the game? Get real. How in any way is this decent of your teammate? You guys are by far the worse team I've ever had to deal with in DRTL both in season 1 and it remains true in this season. You agreed to postpone Lmaster's match far before the clan war, there is proof of this arrangement, in no way do you guys have any say in removing the PP match or not.
When you talk about decency, try to not make our players wait 40+ minutes for games and they start crying when they take W.O, because that is by no means decent.
1a2a3a didn't talk to us about being late but xellnaga did warn us that he might not be there but didn't tell 24 hours before that both wouldn't make it on time or not at all... I just telling you my side of the story but i also got witnesses who can say the same thing. Talk to Shimy, Art, L3gendary about our skype chat 24 hours before the match 
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On March 19 2012 00:28 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 00:15 Eywa- wrote:
LMAO, you guys want him to wait 40 minutes for your player and then come back on another day to play the game? Get real. How in any way is this decent of your teammate? You guys are by far the worse team I've ever had to deal with in DRTL both in season 1 and it remains true in this season. You agreed to postpone Lmaster's match far before the clan war, there is proof of this arrangement, in no way do you guys have any say in removing the PP match or not.
When you talk about decency, try to not make our players wait 40+ minutes for games and they start crying when they take W.O, because that is by no means decent. 1a2a3a didn't talk to us about being late but xellnaga did warn us that he might not be there but didn't tell 24 hours before that both wouldn't make it on time or not at all... I just telling you my side of the story but i also got witnesses who can say the same thing. Talk to Shimy, Art, L3gendary about our skype chat 24 hours before the match
And we care about what happened in your PRIVATE skype group why?
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Hmm, okay so I am all good with my stuff, since Arya has been super manner and whatnot. Thanks for being so easy to work with Arya.
In all seriousness...what the fuck is with this walkover shit?!
This is freakin DRTL...I mean yes you want the league to be competitive but at the same time it's a developmental league. Why the fuck are people TRYING to take walkovers in the first place?
Do you not want to play matches or something, if so why bother even signing up? The fact that people have a choice to PP a match or take a W.O. and people are opting for the W.O. literally blows my mind. Just find a time that's good for both of you, reschedule and play then.
Did so many people really join this league to win DRTL? I would have thought the reason most people joined was so they could be in a team environment, get to practice with a group they know, and get practice playing matches in a more intense, pressure filled zone.
W.O. then does nothing to benefit that goal and sucks terribly for people on both teams. I'm at a loss to understand this whole situation tbh.
LMAO, you guys want him to wait 40 minutes for your player and then come back on another day to play the game?
Yes. Absolutely.
This isn't to say that showing up 40 min late with no warning is acceptable, because that's a lot of wasted time for your opponent and none to cool a move to pull.
BUT, that still doesn't change the fact that your opponent is now there. Why wouldn't you reschedule? Again I ask...do players in this league really not want to play the games that badly. If the goal is to get practice playing prepared matches and/or playing matches in a more pressure packed environment taking a walkover isn't helpful or useful and sucks for both players.
If someone would take a walkover in this situation what I want to know is...why?!
The only time I could see the W.O. making any sense is if the player waited a long ass time, and then legitimacy is going to be too busy to reschedule a game.
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On March 19 2012 00:33 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 00:28 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2012 00:15 Eywa- wrote:
LMAO, you guys want him to wait 40 minutes for your player and then come back on another day to play the game? Get real. How in any way is this decent of your teammate? You guys are by far the worse team I've ever had to deal with in DRTL both in season 1 and it remains true in this season. You agreed to postpone Lmaster's match far before the clan war, there is proof of this arrangement, in no way do you guys have any say in removing the PP match or not.
When you talk about decency, try to not make our players wait 40+ minutes for games and they start crying when they take W.O, because that is by no means decent. 1a2a3a didn't talk to us about being late but xellnaga did warn us that he might not be there but didn't tell 24 hours before that both wouldn't make it on time or not at all... I just telling you my side of the story but i also got witnesses who can say the same thing. Talk to Shimy, Art, L3gendary about our skype chat 24 hours before the match And we care about what happened in your PRIVATE skype group why?
Edivence is in there that could prove no one got a warning from anyone of the 2 people who got walkover'd wouldn't be on time or not at all..... I wish i could make a screen shot of it but i know that Art could.
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On March 18 2012 23:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 23:20 sabas123 wrote:On March 18 2012 23:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 18 2012 13:18 Eywa- wrote:On March 18 2012 12:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 18 2012 06:44 Eywa- wrote:On March 18 2012 04:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It comes down to that Lightning was willing to accomodate LMaster, but the members of Team 2 weren't willing to accomodate our members so we decided to take the WO. Seems fair enough to me. So wait... you agreed to a PP then decided to change your mind?... dunno how that's fair. Allowing your opponent to postpone is being nice. If the favor is returned by shitting in the other team's face and asking for 2 WO's for people that were late, it only seems poetic justice to me. Doesn't matter what's nice, in the end you agreed to a PP, you can't change your mind later. You're like yeah we can play this poker game later, text him as soon as he leaves the table "LOLOL I NOT PLAY PP, your friends r mean  ". It matters when it's a fun league, and your analogy makes no sense. What'd make more sense is if your friends threw two of my friends out because they were late. This is not about rules, this is about common decency. We offered a postponement with the thought that they would do the same if we had problems, and we always offer other teams to postpone if they can't get their lineup together. If you don't have the common decency to accept a postponement from our side then there's no reason we should accept the postponement anymore. On March 18 2012 18:07 sabas123 wrote:i want to state clear, my opponent. aka team2vstakk drama. who already came 5 minutes late, asked me for some extra time, normaly i am NOT making any troubles about it, and i will say YES, but in this case i had to play another leauge(already postponed becouse of my matchs), and i was just simply short on time. i informed him shortly after he came about it. i am not sure who started the descusion about the summer-daytime saving time, but if it was the case and he had to be on work at it. i find it strange becouse everywhere where i look it says that in his country (gmt+2) the time will change 5 days from now. and after being 40 minutes late i asked a w.o becouse i yust simply haven't enough time to yust proxy 2 gate him anymore. and i woudn't be able withing the time i got to play an straigth-up matchs. (thats atleast what I preffer). i hope this will clear up. sidenote: we need to get a writer to make this a best-selling book lol  You could've agreed to play him on another day, like we did with L_Master. The fact that you didn't and forced a walkover is why we decided to revoke our hospitality. they never asked me for a PP. We did ask, this is from my twitch.tv vod so it's bad quality but you can still read it. + Show Spoiler [screenshot] +You can find the whole vod including my match here -> http://www.twitch.tv/artanisxp/b/311973767 - Drama starts around 33:00.
i thougth you mention it for masssssss's game
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ow btw, artanis, how does this sound,
HE GUYS sup, i am here, 5 minutes after w.o but you are mannered enough that you didnt asked for it already right? awsome becouse i have to eat supper now: brb
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Yeah.I am with LMaster on that we should do anything to avoid W.O., but then again I can't know the circumstances of all players and know their time allocation and limits so I leave it to them.
However, Artanis, you are still in the wrong here because revoking hospitality is not the same as not granting it.
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On March 19 2012 01:08 HeaDStrong wrote:
Yeah.I am with LMaster on that we should do anything to avoid W.O., but then again I can't know the circumstances of all players and know their time allocation and limits so I leave it to them.
However, Artanis, you are still in the wrong here because revoking hospitality is not the same as not granting it.
I'll play someone if needed, I wasn't in the lu though.
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On March 19 2012 01:08 HeaDStrong wrote:
Yeah.I am with LMaster on that we should do anything to avoid W.O., but then again I can't know the circumstances of all players and know their time allocation and limits so I leave it to them.
However, Artanis, you are still in the wrong here because revoking hospitality is not the same as not granting it.
Perhaps, but if you give someone a pie and they return the favor by shitting in your face I'm pretty sure you'd try to get your pie back too.
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On March 19 2012 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 01:08 HeaDStrong wrote:
Yeah.I am with LMaster on that we should do anything to avoid W.O., but then again I can't know the circumstances of all players and know their time allocation and limits so I leave it to them.
However, Artanis, you are still in the wrong here because revoking hospitality is not the same as not granting it. Perhaps, but if you give someone a pie and they return the favor by shitting in your face I'm pretty sure you'd try to get your pie back too.
or perhaps you need to lissen what we say and think what you should do if youre already waiting 40 minutes, and have another improtant leauge in the next 5?
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On March 19 2012 01:23 sabas123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 19 2012 01:08 HeaDStrong wrote:
Yeah.I am with LMaster on that we should do anything to avoid W.O., but then again I can't know the circumstances of all players and know their time allocation and limits so I leave it to them.
However, Artanis, you are still in the wrong here because revoking hospitality is not the same as not granting it. Perhaps, but if you give someone a pie and they return the favor by shitting in your face I'm pretty sure you'd try to get your pie back too. or perhaps you need to lissen what we say and think what you should do if youre already waiting 40 minutes, and have another improtant leauge in the next 5?
If you knew you had another important league soon you could've requested a postponement and we would've been happy to oblige. It's unfortunate that two of our members weren't there on time and we apologize for that, but we showed good will earlier by allowing LMaster to reschedule. We don't like WO's for or against us and would like to prevent them wherever possible. However, instead of getting heated up about WO's I think it's a better idea to just have everyone play, albeit postponed. If you guys are willing to do so, so are we.
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OK so our player xelnaga can play anytime after 7cet (1.5 hours from now) and we'd give you WO for 1a2a3a. Would masss or someone else, perhaps eywa, be willing to play that match? Then we can also play out arya vs lmaster.
Let me know team 2 :D
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On March 19 2012 01:31 L3gendary wrote:
OK so our player xelnaga can play anytime after 7cet (1.5 hours from now) and we'd give you WO for 1a2a3a. Would masss or someone else, perhaps eywa, be willing to play that match? Then we can also play out arya vs lmaster.
Let me know team 2 :D
but aslong we dont have permision form nikon it doesnt matter.
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On March 19 2012 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 01:08 HeaDStrong wrote:
Yeah.I am with LMaster on that we should do anything to avoid W.O., but then again I can't know the circumstances of all players and know their time allocation and limits so I leave it to them.
However, Artanis, you are still in the wrong here because revoking hospitality is not the same as not granting it. Perhaps, but if you give someone a pie and they return the favor by shitting in your face I'm pretty sure you'd try to get your pie back too.
Easy, nobody is shitting in your face. Don't be overly dramatic. And asking for a w.o. after waiting 40mins is no more shitting in your face than making someone wait for 40mins while enjoying dinner. You cant hold all people to the same standards as you don't know how able they are to manage their time. In the LMaster case both players were able and agreed to play on a different time and revoking that is just nothing but spiteful and bm move.
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On March 18 2012 04:19 LightningStrike wrote:takk wions 4-2 sicne we now making lmaster's vs me a walkover due to recent events during the entire match between takk vs team 2 i sorry lmaster but if you want toi play still that is fine i willing to play you even our game is a walkover not your fault but rather your team's fault -_-....
wait WTF, WE MAKE, i am reading that correctly? WE MAKE?!!!!! wtf is going on dude???? i NEVER heard anything from the admins about this dession, so who gave you the rights to TAKE that matchs when it was post-poned?
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On March 19 2012 01:47 sabas123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 01:31 L3gendary wrote:
OK so our player xelnaga can play anytime after 7cet (1.5 hours from now) and we'd give you WO for 1a2a3a. Would masss or someone else, perhaps eywa, be willing to play that match? Then we can also play out arya vs lmaster.
Let me know team 2 :D but aslong we dont have permision form nikon it doesnt matter.
Pretty sure we don't need his permission to reschedule games if both teams agree to it. And I'm sure he'd appreciate having this issue resolved rather than having to resolve it himself.
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results of team 2 vs takk
+ Show Spoiler + team 2 4-3 takk
since we took lmasters set and make it a w.o for us.
inspired by lighting strike
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On March 19 2012 01:57 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 01:47 sabas123 wrote:On March 19 2012 01:31 L3gendary wrote:
OK so our player xelnaga can play anytime after 7cet (1.5 hours from now) and we'd give you WO for 1a2a3a. Would masss or someone else, perhaps eywa, be willing to play that match? Then we can also play out arya vs lmaster.
Let me know team 2 :D but aslong we dont have permision form nikon it doesnt matter. Pretty sure we don't need his permission to reschedule games if both teams agree to it. And I'm sure he'd appreciate having this issue resolved rather than having to resolve it himself.
but how do you know its the right game??? i still got some replays left of drtl season 1. or if i smurf him onladder, we can yust send it to him
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