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4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
February 15 2012 15:21 GMT
#1161
I had to stop watching at the point where everyone thought Jaehoon would win... WTF happened??

T8
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
February 15 2012 15:36 GMT
#1162
Team 8, much like Oz make me so sad
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 15 2012 15:37 GMT
#1163
WriterXiao8~~
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
February 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1164
My Liquibet is saved
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Ixithra
Profile Joined May 2011
31 Posts
February 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#1165
Damn, that banner was an epic fail... A lot of Koreans can't stand Japan and the Japanese. This is bound to hurt some feelings...
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
February 15 2012 15:58 GMT
#1166
Ah damn it Team 8 is slipping further and further from the playoffs. And they had just started looking better too TT_TT
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8175 Posts
February 15 2012 15:58 GMT
#1167
On February 16 2012 00:56 Ixithra wrote:
Damn, that banner was an epic fail... A lot of Koreans can't stand Japan and the Japanese. This is bound to hurt some feelings...

If some people have dumb racist prejudices against Japanese, I don't think anybody here will be sad that they get hurt by this awesome banner.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
February 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#1168
On February 16 2012 00:58 Nikon wrote:
Ah damn it Team 8 is slipping further and further from the playoffs. And they had just started looking better too TT_TT

Oh come on, they're 2 wins away from 4th place. Don't exaggerate.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:02:27
February 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#1169
:3
STX wins, Calm wins, 3 Zerg wins, I'm so happy.
Overall 3 great games today as well, so Team 8 should be satisfied with themselves. Just keep the eyes on the prize, they can do this yet!
Sorry to all the Team 8 fans, but STX needed this win bad as well. I hope there are no hard feelings.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
February 15 2012 16:14 GMT
#1170
damn it jaehoon, you threw that game away, seriously.

on the other hand i guess STX needed the win as well, so Team 8 better luck next time

Still hope that Team 8 would continue to improve, Jaehoon has improved quite a lot, just needs to choose his engagement wisely now.

Hope Team 8 makes the playoffs ^^
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:22:01
February 15 2012 16:21 GMT
#1171
On February 16 2012 01:01 mustaju wrote:
:3
STX wins, Calm wins, 3 Zerg wins, I'm so happy.
Overall 3 great games today as well, so Team 8 should be satisfied with themselves. Just keep the eyes on the prize, they can do this yet!
Sorry to all the Team 8 fans, but STX needed this win bad as well. I hope there are no hard feelings.

no, its ok
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
February 15 2012 16:24 GMT
#1172
On February 15 2012 22:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Jaehoon being smart with ovi timing: changes scouting direction

Mindfucks Hyvaa who is now scouting wrong
Nice catch. That was a cool little move that I missed until I read your post and rewatched that bit of the VOD.
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
February 15 2012 16:25 GMT
#1173
Only game I saw was Jaehoon vs hyvaa. Jaehoon's play is infuriating, sound strategically but the micro (or lack thereof) is simply horrific.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
February 15 2012 16:40 GMT
#1174
On February 15 2012 22:56 letian wrote:
I will blame the coach for T8 fuckup and not using his players to their full potential, but instead throwing them into unfavorable matchups, when the stakes are so high, and when you actually have a decent choice, if not a better one.

.... How the hell can the coach know who they gonna meet?
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
February 15 2012 16:55 GMT
#1175
On February 16 2012 01:40 Tomken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 22:56 letian wrote:
I will blame the coach for T8 fuckup and not using his players to their full potential, but instead throwing them into unfavorable matchups, when the stakes are so high, and when you actually have a decent choice, if not a better one.

.... How the hell can the coach know who they gonna meet?


Well at this point in the season there are definite trends. But I don't see how you can be upset at this lineup:

BaBy on Ground Zero - TvT and won. Might have gotten a Z or P, but would probably still have won.
Jaedong on Chain Reaction - ZvP and won. Might have been better to send Killer (since BaBy had played already) but that's second guessing.
Killer on Electric Circuit - ZvZ and lost to Calm. If he could somehow have known he would face Calm, who would you send instead? Jaehoon? Heh. Tyson? Worse. Sea? Not the way Sea's been playing. Switch JD and Killer in the lineup? Sure I guess... but what do you really accomplish?
Sea on Sniper Ridge - TvP and lost. This one you can criticize since Sea's been poor this season: maybe send Tyson. On the other hand, what it Tyson had walked into by.hero/hyvaa/Last and lost badly? Saving Jaehoon for last - the 3rd best player after the two aces - makes sense, though you could argue that sending him would have been okay here, but what if he lost and you *have* to send Tyson (not Sea, obviously) on Outlier? Urk.
Jaehoon on Outlier - Jaehoon ought to be better than hyvaa (though hyvaa's ZvP is good). I don't like Tyson's chances any better. Jaehoon ought to have won the game, and screwed it up. How is that on the coach?

No, there are cases where lineups are really and truly the coach's fault, but this is not one of them.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2012 16:58 GMT
#1176
DAMN YOU FOLD! T_T
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
February 15 2012 17:22 GMT
#1177
Jaehoon, why did you move out with goons and shuttle reavers?
Killer, Sea when will you show your best game?! Killer was just outplayed, Sea was waiting until Dear had half of the map with 50 gateways. (
At least Jaedong won.
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
February 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#1178
ahh so many 2-3 losts for T8 :\ Well played by both teams though.
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hku
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
169 Posts
February 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#1179
On February 16 2012 00:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 00:56 Ixithra wrote:
Damn, that banner was an epic fail... A lot of Koreans can't stand Japan and the Japanese. This is bound to hurt some feelings...

If some people have dumb racist prejudices against Japanese, I don't think anybody here will be sad that they get hurt by this awesome banner.


Please be more sensitive. It was only 67 years ago when Korea was finally relieved of Japanese rule that lasted centuries. The abuses of the Japanese are still very relevant in Korea today. Many of the people still living have memories of being forced to learn Japanese and submit to their culture. The vast majority of them lived through the painful rebuilding of society after the Japanese left.

While the banner can be left and is wonderful in certain aspects, it is analogous to portraying modern Jewish celebrities in Nazi attire. While hatred is hardly beneficial or constructive, the racism and prejudices against the Japanese is hardly "dumb".
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 18:44:30
February 15 2012 18:44 GMT
#1180
On February 16 2012 01:55 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:40 Tomken wrote:
On February 15 2012 22:56 letian wrote:
I will blame the coach for T8 fuckup and not using his players to their full potential, but instead throwing them into unfavorable matchups, when the stakes are so high, and when you actually have a decent choice, if not a better one.

.... How the hell can the coach know who they gonna meet?


Well at this point in the season there are definite trends. But I don't see how you can be upset at this lineup:

BaBy on Ground Zero - TvT and won. Might have gotten a Z or P, but would probably still have won.
Jaedong on Chain Reaction - ZvP and won. Might have been better to send Killer (since BaBy had played already) but that's second guessing.
Killer on Electric Circuit - ZvZ and lost to Calm. If he could somehow have known he would face Calm, who would you send instead? Jaehoon? Heh. Tyson? Worse. Sea? Not the way Sea's been playing. Switch JD and Killer in the lineup? Sure I guess... but what do you really accomplish?
Sea on Sniper Ridge - TvP and lost. This one you can criticize since Sea's been poor this season: maybe send Tyson. On the other hand, what it Tyson had walked into by.hero/hyvaa/Last and lost badly? Saving Jaehoon for last - the 3rd best player after the two aces - makes sense, though you could argue that sending him would have been okay here, but what if he lost and you *have* to send Tyson (not Sea, obviously) on Outlier? Urk.
Jaehoon on Outlier - Jaehoon ought to be better than hyvaa (though hyvaa's ZvP is good). I don't like Tyson's chances any better. Jaehoon ought to have won the game, and screwed it up. How is that on the coach?

No, there are cases where lineups are really and truly the coach's fault, but this is not one of them.

you seem rational. Well at least enough to persuade me)
T8 shallow lineup makes coach strategy poor. Maybe I'm wrong on Hoon account
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