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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
January 15 2012 17:11 GMT
#621
KT Roflstompster
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
January 15 2012 18:29 GMT
#622
On January 15 2012 21:09 Tomken wrote:
Rofl the last game :D Light's last 21 TvZ games -> 19-2 (two loses to Hydra) then losing to CH kekekekekeke


the key to beating lights TvZ: have the word "hydra" in your username.
Free Palestine
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 15 2012 18:57 GMT
#623
On January 16 2012 00:24 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 17:35 Fionn wrote:
On January 15 2012 17:27 elagrion wrote:
We get 3-0 by that guys? F*ck me.

Anyway, STX and KT (first more then second, but whatever) are kinda shitty teams on paper, what they are doing that they keep winning (first less then second, but whatever)?


Because KT has possibly two of the best five or so players in the world right now? With their best player, Flash, far and away the best player in the world?

It's not hard to win when you have two players who are 14-1 in the league.

STX also has Last who is 6-0 and Bogus who is kicking ass. If you can have two heavyweights roll through people and have someone win one game out of three, your team will win.

You must have players that winning to win, it is a requirement, duh. =)
Ok, I will rephrase question for you: what team is doing, that players like Hoejja, CH, Stats, Last, Bogus getting results?

And I will never believe that Last is better than Sea or Fanta.


Stats and Bogus are getting results because they're monstrously talented players who have a great understanding of the game. I don't know how that confuses you. That's like asking "Why is Flash winning?" to a lesser extent.
Remember Violet.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
January 15 2012 19:07 GMT
#624
On January 16 2012 00:24 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 17:35 Fionn wrote:
On January 15 2012 17:27 elagrion wrote:
We get 3-0 by that guys? F*ck me.

Anyway, STX and KT (first more then second, but whatever) are kinda shitty teams on paper, what they are doing that they keep winning (first less then second, but whatever)?


Because KT has possibly two of the best five or so players in the world right now? With their best player, Flash, far and away the best player in the world?

It's not hard to win when you have two players who are 14-1 in the league.

STX also has Last who is 6-0 and Bogus who is kicking ass. If you can have two heavyweights roll through people and have someone win one game out of three, your team will win.

You must have players that winning to win, it is a requirement, duh. =)
Ok, I will rephrase question for you: what team is doing, that players like Hoejja, CH, Stats, Last, Bogus getting results?

And I will never believe that Last is better than Sea or Fanta.


Your rephrase has even less clarity than your original question.

But assuming what you're asking is, "What are these teams doing right?" and you're purposely ignoring that KT has God, then take your pick from any of the following:

1) They're getting the right matchups (and aren't fucking it up like CJ). Last, the TvT sniper, played 4 TvTs in a row. Hmm, I wonder. Saving your ZvZ specialist for the last set against SKT after burning through FBB? Not a coincidence.
2) They're playing the maps better. Truthfully, I'm pretty confident Light would stomp Crazy Hydra into the ground easily if the game wasn't on Outlier. The guy clearly hasn't played on it much (wouldn't expect any Terran to, honestly) if he doesn't know how to properly wall on it. But the 0-2 situation meant he had little choice but to come out, or risk facing Flash later (and you already saw how that turned out, lol fail cheese). Meanwhile, Hoejja is mining out the back minerals to run hydras into your main, because you would never expect him to do shit like that after Destination, right? ^^
3) They don't actually suck as much as you think they do. Stats is a fantastic player, like it or not, and is impressive in all matchups. Bogus is also a great player. He just ran into a rough patch at the beginning, but is picking up his momentum again.
4) Your team relies heavily on Zergs. Zergs are just bad this season. Poor Zero
Writer:o
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 20:16:32
January 15 2012 20:16 GMT
#625
KT Roflstompter? Man Flash didn't even need to come out..
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
January 16 2012 11:53 GMT
#626
On January 16 2012 04:07 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:24 elagrion wrote:
On January 15 2012 17:35 Fionn wrote:
On January 15 2012 17:27 elagrion wrote:
We get 3-0 by that guys? F*ck me.

Anyway, STX and KT (first more then second, but whatever) are kinda shitty teams on paper, what they are doing that they keep winning (first less then second, but whatever)?


Because KT has possibly two of the best five or so players in the world right now? With their best player, Flash, far and away the best player in the world?

It's not hard to win when you have two players who are 14-1 in the league.

STX also has Last who is 6-0 and Bogus who is kicking ass. If you can have two heavyweights roll through people and have someone win one game out of three, your team will win.

You must have players that winning to win, it is a requirement, duh. =)
Ok, I will rephrase question for you: what team is doing, that players like Hoejja, CH, Stats, Last, Bogus getting results?

And I will never believe that Last is better than Sea or Fanta.


Your rephrase has even less clarity than your original question.

But assuming what you're asking is, "What are these teams doing right?" and you're purposely ignoring that KT has God, then take your pick from any of the following:

1) They're getting the right matchups (and aren't fucking it up like CJ). Last, the TvT sniper, played 4 TvTs in a row. Hmm, I wonder. Saving your ZvZ specialist for the last set against SKT after burning through FBB? Not a coincidence.
2) They're playing the maps better. Truthfully, I'm pretty confident Light would stomp Crazy Hydra into the ground easily if the game wasn't on Outlier. The guy clearly hasn't played on it much (wouldn't expect any Terran to, honestly) if he doesn't know how to properly wall on it. But the 0-2 situation meant he had little choice but to come out, or risk facing Flash later (and you already saw how that turned out, lol fail cheese). Meanwhile, Hoejja is mining out the back minerals to run hydras into your main, because you would never expect him to do shit like that after Destination, right? ^^
3) They don't actually suck as much as you think they do. Stats is a fantastic player, like it or not, and is impressive in all matchups. Bogus is also a great player. He just ran into a rough patch at the beginning, but is picking up his momentum again.
4) Your team relies heavily on Zergs. Zergs are just bad this season. Poor Zero


I agree with all points here and want to add something though it's a little off topic: so far protoss is the race that is getting most of the wins. Your protosses are underperforming and it's hard for me to name a player from Woongjin that is consistent, maybe SK is the closest one. On paper you have names but I'm not seeing anyhting right now that gives you a shot for the title. The players are not showing anything promising so far and there is nobody you can relay for ace matches and have more than 50% chance against other aces. Also your team is the most fragile when talking about weak sides in certain match ups. I hope you'll improve though I really would like to see a team with strong zerg line up once again.
It's about time.
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
January 16 2012 12:14 GMT
#627
Here's a little something for fellow Stats fans

http://sc.plu.cn/note/2012-01-15/38722.html

Brief summary of the interview:

Stats' very happy about his 6 consecutive wins and really satisfied about his game against shy. He read Shy's opening perfectly and was able to dictate the game's flow because of it, and the game went as if according to his script. He had originally prepared for Light but he didn't appear. Stats' also really ecstatic at being the leader in having the most number of wins and he feels as though he's becoming more ambitious because of his good performances. He credits flash for helping him out. He also thinks that being the protoss with the most wins is a realistic goal and he just needs to work hard and win the rest of the matches. He mentions that it is strange that he has been doing well in televised PvZs because he loses more frequently in practice. Regarding the upcoming match against STX, Stats acknowledges that the STX Terrans have been on really good form and that he'd wish to avoid them but if he does get matched up against them, he would play his best. He's very thankful towards his parents who've been supporting him all along, as well as the fans who went to cheer for him live. He hopes more people would participate in Stats' cafe (his fancafe I presume).

That's about the gist of the interview, only typed out the key points so the flow is probably not smooth. The best I can do without translating it.

Stats kinda resembles Flash in the photo. I smell a conspiracy...
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
January 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#628
Stats just needs to prove himself in individual leagues. He's got the talent, but he just keeps coming up short in the MSL/OSL. And it's gonna be doubly hard for him to win anything now that the MSL's gone .
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 13:36:26
January 16 2012 13:34 GMT
#629
On January 16 2012 21:14 Winechu wrote:
Here's a little something for fellow Stats fans

http://sc.plu.cn/note/2012-01-15/38722.html

Brief summary of the interview:

Stats' very happy about his 6 consecutive wins and really satisfied about his game against shy. He read Shy's opening perfectly and was able to dictate the game's flow because of it, and the game went as if according to his script. He had originally prepared for Light but he didn't appear. Stats' also really ecstatic at being the leader in having the most number of wins and he feels as though he's becoming more ambitious because of his good performances. He credits flash for helping him out. He also thinks that being the protoss with the most wins is a realistic goal and he just needs to work hard and win the rest of the matches. He mentions that it is strange that he has been doing well in televised PvZs because he loses more frequently in practice. Regarding the upcoming match against STX, Stats acknowledges that the STX Terrans have been on really good form and that he'd wish to avoid them but if he does get matched up against them, he would play his best. He's very thankful towards his parents who've been supporting him all along, as well as the fans who went to cheer for him live. He hopes more people would participate in Stats' cafe (his fancafe I presume).

That's about the gist of the interview, only typed out the key points so the flow is probably not smooth. The best I can do without translating it.

Stats kinda resembles Flash in the photo. I smell a conspiracy...


Maybe it's just the angle of the photo shot that make him look like flash but that is Stats -_-. Thanks for the translation ^_^.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
January 16 2012 17:47 GMT
#630
KT in first place makes me sick to my stomach.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
January 16 2012 18:25 GMT
#631
On January 17 2012 02:47 zenMaster wrote:
KT in first place makes me sick to my stomach.

Then I guess you've had a sick stomach for the past 2 years.
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