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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 08 2012 08:10 GMT
#761
Thanks streamers! Nothing beats staying up extremely late into the night to watch STX win.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 08:11:10
January 08 2012 08:10 GMT
#762
On January 08 2012 17:07 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 17:04 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:00 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:47 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:44 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:38 kingalexxx wrote:
Imagine if STX still had Kal....


Kal had something like 30% winrate for the greater part of last year, I don't blame STX for deciding to drop him, especially when he probably had one of the higher salaries of all the players on the team.

Of course, now he's actually winning so...

STX didn't "drop him". Once he finishes his Air Force ACE years, I bet he'll return, if STX still exists.


I always assumed that his choice to enter the military at this specific time was in some way influenced by STX. I actually remember reading something several months about Kal not being in STX's "long term plans," but that may have been hearsay.

Most distressing. I'll put it in the back of my head as Hearsay though.


i remember a lot of rumors going around about stx before the new pl format and team structure was finalized. i remember an especially odd one where stx was apparently planning on replacing every single player on their team. obviously they didn't and i'm not sure where the rumor came from. i think people were pretty scared about mbc ceasing to broadcast, and of course about mbc, wemade, and oz disbanding, so anything seemed believable

That is highly at odds with STX's reputation as a generous team in both quarters and pay. Also, in the history of STX, they took a lot of players in to nurse them back to health, such as July, Frozen and hyvaa. Is that STX truly a thing of the past?
Of course, the "whole team up for trade" was a bad sign, but I never thought that management was that ruthless. :S
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 08:12:00
January 08 2012 08:11 GMT
#763
On January 08 2012 17:10 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 17:07 o[twist] wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:04 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:00 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:47 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:44 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:38 kingalexxx wrote:
Imagine if STX still had Kal....


Kal had something like 30% winrate for the greater part of last year, I don't blame STX for deciding to drop him, especially when he probably had one of the higher salaries of all the players on the team.

Of course, now he's actually winning so...

STX didn't "drop him". Once he finishes his Air Force ACE years, I bet he'll return, if STX still exists.


I always assumed that his choice to enter the military at this specific time was in some way influenced by STX. I actually remember reading something several months about Kal not being in STX's "long term plans," but that may have been hearsay.

Most distressing. I'll put it in the back of my head as Hearsay though.


i remember a lot of rumors going around about stx before the new pl format and team structure was finalized. i remember an especially odd one where stx was apparently planning on replacing every single player on their team. obviously they didn't and i'm not sure where the rumor came from. i think people were pretty scared about mbc ceasing to broadcast, and of course about mbc, wemade, and oz disbanding, so anything seemed believable

That is highly at odds with STX's reputation as a generous team in both quarters and pay. Also, in the history of STX, they took a lot of players in to nurse them back to health, such as July, Frozen and hyvaa. Is that STX truly a thing of the past?


oh i think they were probably not accurate, although this thing about stx parting ways with kal seems to have been

edit: oh, the "whole team up for trade" thing was what i was talking about, i guess - i seem to have mangled it
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 08:28:35
January 08 2012 08:15 GMT
#764
Oh hey, combo broken. The first game that I didn't watch live where Stars lost.

Still disappointed with the result. Current proleague climate is pretty friendly towards protoss... and our protoss line sucks, lol-- err, I mean =(.

Well, at least I have OSL to look forward to.
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
January 08 2012 08:17 GMT
#765
On January 08 2012 17:07 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 17:04 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:00 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:47 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:44 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:38 kingalexxx wrote:
Imagine if STX still had Kal....


Kal had something like 30% winrate for the greater part of last year, I don't blame STX for deciding to drop him, especially when he probably had one of the higher salaries of all the players on the team.

Of course, now he's actually winning so...

STX didn't "drop him". Once he finishes his Air Force ACE years, I bet he'll return, if STX still exists.


I always assumed that his choice to enter the military at this specific time was in some way influenced by STX. I actually remember reading something several months about Kal not being in STX's "long term plans," but that may have been hearsay.

Most distressing. I'll put it in the back of my head as Hearsay though.


i remember a lot of rumors going around about stx before the new pl format and team structure was finalized. i remember an especially odd one where stx was apparently planning on replacing every single player on their team. obviously they didn't and i'm not sure where the rumor came from. i think people were pretty scared about mbc ceasing to broadcast, and of course about mbc, wemade, and oz disbanding, so anything seemed believable


Yeah, I remember reading that specifically. If you just look at STX's results from last season, it was clear that the only player that was pulling his weight was Bogus, and given the general state of a bunch of other teams at the time it seemed like the story about STX was plausible. Also take a look at this, I'm pretty sure even Jangbi at his worst might have had a better winrate than Kal did last season in proleague.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 08:26:45
January 08 2012 08:25 GMT
#766
On January 08 2012 17:17 nineninja9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 17:07 o[twist] wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:04 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:00 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:47 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:44 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:38 kingalexxx wrote:
Imagine if STX still had Kal....


Kal had something like 30% winrate for the greater part of last year, I don't blame STX for deciding to drop him, especially when he probably had one of the higher salaries of all the players on the team.

Of course, now he's actually winning so...

STX didn't "drop him". Once he finishes his Air Force ACE years, I bet he'll return, if STX still exists.


I always assumed that his choice to enter the military at this specific time was in some way influenced by STX. I actually remember reading something several months about Kal not being in STX's "long term plans," but that may have been hearsay.

Most distressing. I'll put it in the back of my head as Hearsay though.


i remember a lot of rumors going around about stx before the new pl format and team structure was finalized. i remember an especially odd one where stx was apparently planning on replacing every single player on their team. obviously they didn't and i'm not sure where the rumor came from. i think people were pretty scared about mbc ceasing to broadcast, and of course about mbc, wemade, and oz disbanding, so anything seemed believable


Yeah, I remember reading that specifically. If you just look at STX's results from last season, it was clear that the only player that was pulling his weight was Bogus, and given the general state of a bunch of other teams at the time it seemed like the story about STX was plausible. Also take a look at this, I'm pretty sure even Jangbi at his worst might have had a better winrate than Kal did last season in proleague.

Truth be told, The Zergs are letting STX down pretty heavily this season, even compared to the last one. Can they be revived? Time will tell. But with a strong 1-2 punch in Last+ Bogus, Dear, and a few good snipes, this format might be winnable without them. I wonder how Shuttle is doing?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
January 08 2012 08:41 GMT
#767
Shuttle hasn't been particularly good since 09-10 season in my opinion and Last is still rather unproven but seems decent. Dear I honestly have no idea about. Then there's clam/modesty/hyvaa/etc who clearly aren't doing much. I remember Classic was okay a while back, but given his lack of playtime this season I doubt he's a good option either.

Honestly I'm not particularly optimistic.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 08 2012 08:41 GMT
#768
On January 08 2012 17:25 mustaju wrote:
I wonder how Shuttle is doing?


[image loading]

What a silly question Mustaju.

Also I tried to jump on skype but it kept crashing TT
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
January 08 2012 09:38 GMT
#769
On January 08 2012 17:00 nineninja9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 16:47 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:44 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:38 kingalexxx wrote:
Imagine if STX still had Kal....


Kal had something like 30% winrate for the greater part of last year, I don't blame STX for deciding to drop him, especially when he probably had one of the higher salaries of all the players on the team.

Of course, now he's actually winning so...

STX didn't "drop him". Once he finishes his Air Force ACE years, I bet he'll return, if STX still exists.


I always assumed that his choice to enter the military at this specific time was in some way influenced by STX. I actually remember reading something several months about Kal not being in STX's "long term plans," but that may have been hearsay.


that doesnt sound like it makes too much sense at all, especially considering how many times STX still played Kal on PL despite his poor performance (how else could he obtain such a bad record last year?). obviously they had faith in his skill, but for whatever reason he kept choking pretty bad when he played on TV. his move to ACE was driven by his desire to remove stress from himself (and it seems to be working).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266894
Free Palestine
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
January 08 2012 09:38 GMT
#770
Bogus have a CRAZY MICRO
his vultures controlled all map and killed over 30 probes
thats why free was so passive, i think
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
January 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#771
On January 08 2012 17:25 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 17:17 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:07 o[twist] wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:04 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 17:00 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:47 mustaju wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:44 nineninja9 wrote:
On January 08 2012 16:38 kingalexxx wrote:
Imagine if STX still had Kal....


Kal had something like 30% winrate for the greater part of last year, I don't blame STX for deciding to drop him, especially when he probably had one of the higher salaries of all the players on the team.

Of course, now he's actually winning so...

STX didn't "drop him". Once he finishes his Air Force ACE years, I bet he'll return, if STX still exists.


I always assumed that his choice to enter the military at this specific time was in some way influenced by STX. I actually remember reading something several months about Kal not being in STX's "long term plans," but that may have been hearsay.

Most distressing. I'll put it in the back of my head as Hearsay though.


i remember a lot of rumors going around about stx before the new pl format and team structure was finalized. i remember an especially odd one where stx was apparently planning on replacing every single player on their team. obviously they didn't and i'm not sure where the rumor came from. i think people were pretty scared about mbc ceasing to broadcast, and of course about mbc, wemade, and oz disbanding, so anything seemed believable


Yeah, I remember reading that specifically. If you just look at STX's results from last season, it was clear that the only player that was pulling his weight was Bogus, and given the general state of a bunch of other teams at the time it seemed like the story about STX was plausible. Also take a look at this, I'm pretty sure even Jangbi at his worst might have had a better winrate than Kal did last season in proleague.

Truth be told, The Zergs are letting STX down pretty heavily this season, even compared to the last one. Can they be revived? Time will tell. But with a strong 1-2 punch in Last+ Bogus, Dear, and a few good snipes, this format might be winnable without them. I wonder how Shuttle is doing?



calm is 2-2 with both losses coming from BO disadvantages in ZvZ, so that's not too bad. for some reason STX keeps playing hyvaa though, who is doing awful this season :\. hero/modesty not doing very well at all either (although modesty got a little unlucky having to face flash, jaedong, and hydra so far). hyvaa is probably doing pretty well in practice judging by STX playing him nearly every single match, but I guess he has developed the case of nerves that kal left behind or something. hero sadly hasn't looked decent since like mid 2010 :\.

I really want to see calm played more so we can gauge his skill better (especially vs T), but maybe he's only being played so little because he's only able to look winnable if he has a good snipe build planned (like vs best) but keeps getting zergs instead. i also want to see mini played more, he looked to show a lot of promise.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 08 2012 10:15 GMT
#772
STX is doing well again.. Something is a litte more "right" in the world now..

If only Calm picked up the pace he used to have
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#773
Oh Light...
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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
January 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#774
No reccomendations? i have limited time can someone tell me which games were good thanks in advance.
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
January 08 2012 12:29 GMT
#775
On January 08 2012 19:15 Iplaythings wrote:
STX is doing well again.. Something is a litte more "right" in the world now..

If only Calm picked up the pace he used to have


If I remember correctly, Calm plays good if he know his opponent beforehand, right?
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
January 08 2012 15:27 GMT
#776
On January 08 2012 21:29 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 19:15 Iplaythings wrote:
STX is doing well again.. Something is a litte more "right" in the world now..

If only Calm picked up the pace he used to have


If I remember correctly, Calm plays good if he know his opponent beforehand, right?

Except if it's Fantasy. Then expect shenanigans.
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k.taeyang
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Peru145 Posts
January 08 2012 18:09 GMT
#777
On January 09 2012 00:27 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 21:29 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On January 08 2012 19:15 Iplaythings wrote:
STX is doing well again.. Something is a litte more "right" in the world now..

If only Calm picked up the pace he used to have


If I remember correctly, Calm plays good if he know his opponent beforehand, right?

Except if it's Fantasy. Then expect shenanigans.


Yup. Brainzerg is only brainzerg when he knows his opponent beforehand.
Seriously look his individual leagues run and he always went far in them. Also, long time ago when PL told teams their lineups Calm had a highly winning rate when he played.

I don't blame him for having bad luck, but I am quiet sure he loses confidence when he doesn't play against the opponent he expected (therefore rolling over and die), even if he has one of the best mechanics in-game and great game sense.

It would be quiet interesting if he relied more in his raw skills instead of planning ahead.



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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
January 08 2012 18:16 GMT
#778
On January 08 2012 20:36 KTF_CloaK wrote:
No reccomendations? i have limited time can someone tell me which games were good thanks in advance.


Set 1 (Dear vs Light) was quite good.
Set 2 (hyvaa vs ZerO) was bad.
Set 3 (Calm vs Soulkey) was a good ZvZ, fairly tense.
Set 4 (Bogus vs free) started well but the loser just collapsed.
Set 5 (Last vs sHy) was exciting if you like cheese.

tl;dr watch the first set and probably the third, the rest were meh.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 08 2012 18:57 GMT
#779
Wait, is STX on a 3 game winning streak?
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 08 2012 20:02 GMT
#780
True that son.

PL gold here we come.
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