EPTOn December 14 2011 18:29 Nikon wrote:
Must've been an attack from Esports hackers! There's no other explanation.
Must've been an attack from Esports hackers! There's no other explanation.
esports is killing... esports...
what has it come to
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
esports is killing... esports... what has it come to | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:26 Hyde wrote: Thanks to the streamer tonight, even though you all went down simultaneously (wtf happened). Because the youtube stream wants monopoly, so they shut down the other streams. It even says so (with different words) on their channel. That would have been ok if they actually offered their services to everybody. It looks like Sweden and Germany is blocked from the youtube stream, but are there any more countries? | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:24 Shurayuki wrote: yeah that's the reason people never DT against bisu right...right That's why in PvP you see players poke around early to see the other guy's build. If you go 2-gate, you need to at least check to make sure the other guy's playing standard. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:24 Holgerius wrote: Lighwip, how did you reach the conclusion that Outlier is bad for Protoss? 5 out of 11 games have been PvP, so unless you know things the progaming coaches/players do... Few features of the map seem very good for P. Seems to have many points from which a P army can be flanked by Z, with the third being difficult to take. No comment on vT(probably about average, annoying for pushes and bases but great for carriers), but PvZ seems really annoying on this map. At times, it's possible to know things players/coaches do not, even if more often than not they will be right and not me. It's certainly happened in my experience before. I do expect it to be less commonly played by P in the future. On December 14 2011 18:26 J1.au wrote: Bisu said the maps were bad so they are. That's the end of that! Throwing out an insult before I have a chance to defend my statement? Classy. | ||
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Shurayuki
Germany2665 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:33 baubo wrote: That's why in PvP you see players poke around early to see the other guy's build. If you go 2-gate, you need to at least check to make sure the other guy's playing standard. i just wanted to rebuke the notion that nobody would ever cheese against bisu...that measures are taken is only natural. principle post On December 14 2011 18:33 ninini wrote: Because the youtube stream wants monopoly, so they shut down the other streams. It even says so (with different words) on their channel. That would have been ok if they actually offered their services to everybody. It looks like Sweden and Germany is blocked from the youtube stream, but are there any more countries? if the former is what actually happened and the latter is true too, then they would be very off my friend list | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:18 Spica wrote: Whew but we're still holding down 2nd place, that's a relief Gotta win against Khan to keep holding it down I like how its worked out that all teams with 2-1 record are playing each other this week. Khan vs SKT and Woongjin vs Team8 | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:33 ninini wrote: Because the youtube stream wants monopoly, so they shut down the other streams. It even says so (with different words) on their channel. That would have been ok if they actually offered their services to everybody. It looks like Sweden and Germany is blocked from the youtube stream, but are there any more countries? Well that's the first thing that popped into my head too, but until there's actually evidence that all our streams were shut down because they wanted us to go to the YT source, we're all just pointing fingers. If this happens again though, I'm going to be pissed. Btw why is YT blocked in Germany and Sweden? I think China also blocks YT? | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
BTW I am REALY worried about Zero's form. | ||
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Shurayuki
Germany2665 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:37 Hyde wrote: Well that's the first thing that popped into my head too, but until there's actually evidence that all our streams were shut down because they wanted us to go to the YT source, we're all just pointing fingers. If this happens again though, I'm going to be pissed. Btw why is YT blocked in Germany and Sweden? I think China also blocks YT? not YT itself, but the stream doesn't work (i tried the other vids and they worked) i don't know, as for germany we get a lot of stuff blocked on request (even stuff that isn't distributed here, like some Kpop from companies that distribute internationally, maybe a blanket block if they notice) actually it would make sense for the stream to be blocked because we get the intro music there and the BW vids that get blocked are blocked because of that...but...but! they are hurting the elephant! | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:34 Lightwip wrote: Few features of the map seem very good for P. Seems to have many points from which a P army can be flanked by Z, with the third being difficult to take. No comment on vT(probably about average, annoying for pushes and bases but great for carriers), but PvZ seems really annoying on this map. At times, it's possible to know things players/coaches do not, even if more often than not they will be right and not me. It's certainly happened in my experience before. I do expect it to be less commonly played by P in the future. Throwing out an insult before I have a chance to defend my statement? Classy. You need to relax because that was in no way an insult. | ||
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:37 Hyde wrote: Well that's the first thing that popped into my head too, but until there's actually evidence that all our streams were shut down because they wanted us to go to the YT source, we're all just pointing fingers. If this happens again though, I'm going to be pissed. Btw why is YT blocked in Germany and Sweden? I think China also blocks YT? Seems unlikely. All the streamers restream daum pot player, not like all the streams actually went down. Most likely daum went down or something, because nanashin was streaming the last portion of free vs bisu. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:37 Hyde wrote: Well that's the first thing that popped into my head too, but until there's actually evidence that all our streams were shut down because they wanted us to go to the YT source, we're all just pointing fingers. If this happens again though, I'm going to be pissed. Btw why is YT blocked in Germany and Sweden? I think China also blocks YT? Yep China blocks Youtube. Usually we find someone to restream a stream, and delay it to cast it in Chinese. So all we need to do is someone with a good connection to bypass the anti YT filter and restream it to everyone. edit : now I think that Chinese streamers restream the original Korean stream, so this shouldn't be an issue at all actually. I've already seen Yaoyuan restreaming Mystlord though. | ||
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:40 Shurayuki wrote: not YT itself, but the stream doesn't work (i tried the other vids and they worked) i don't know, as for germany we get a lot of stuff blocked on request (even stuff that isn't distributed here, like some Kpop from companies that distribute internationally, maybe a blanket block if they notice) actually it would make sense for the stream to be blocked because we get the intro music there and the BW vids that get blocked are blocked because of that...but...but! they are hurting the elephant! that stream went up today though, so someone requested that to get blocked, that odd especially if the other vids work (you're talking about the other esportstv vids here right?) On December 14 2011 18:41 Snipinpanda wrote: Seems unlikely. All the streamers restream daum pot player, not like all the streams actually went down. Most likely daum went down or something, because nanashin was streaming the last portion of free vs bisu. Yeah I noticed LokiM was able to get his stream up pretty quickly too On December 14 2011 18:41 endy wrote: Yep China blocks Youtube. Usually we find someone to restream a stream, and delay it to cast it in Chinese. So all we need to do is someone with a good connection to bypass the anti YT filter and restream it to everyone. edit : now I think that Chinese streamers restream the original Korean stream, so this shouldn't be an issue at all actually. I've already seen Yaoyuan restreaming Mystlord though. when there's a will, there's a way. glad you guys have at least a way around it. Man it sucks that YT is blocked in some countries. wow esportstv has already uploaded the first 3 games, should have the other 2 within the next hour I think | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:41 endy wrote: Yep China blocks Youtube. Usually we find someone to restream a stream, and delay it to cast it in Chinese. So all we need to do is someone with a good connection to bypass the anti YT filter and restream it to everyone. edit : now I think that Chinese streamers restream the original Korean stream, so this shouldn't be an issue at all actually. I've already seen Yaoyuan restreaming Mystlord though. I'm pretty sure most Chinese just watch the official plu stream. They bought the broadcasting rights from OGN(and MBC back when they care about BW), so they get the official stream directly from Korea. | ||
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Shurayuki
Germany2665 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:52 Hyde wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 14 2011 18:40 Shurayuki wrote: not YT itself, but the stream doesn't work (i tried the other vids and they worked) i don't know, as for germany we get a lot of stuff blocked on request (even stuff that isn't distributed here, like some Kpop from companies that distribute internationally, maybe a blanket block if they notice) actually it would make sense for the stream to be blocked because we get the intro music there and the BW vids that get blocked are blocked because of that...but...but! they are hurting the elephant! that stream went up today though, so someone requested that to get blocked, that odd especially if the other vids work (you're talking about the other esportstv vids here right?) On December 14 2011 18:41 Snipinpanda wrote: Seems unlikely. All the streamers restream daum pot player, not like all the streams actually went down. Most likely daum went down or something, because nanashin was streaming the last portion of free vs bisu. Yeah I noticed LokiM was able to get his stream up pretty quickly too On December 14 2011 18:41 endy wrote: Yep China blocks Youtube. Usually we find someone to restream a stream, and delay it to cast it in Chinese. So all we need to do is someone with a good connection to bypass the anti YT filter and restream it to everyone. edit : now I think that Chinese streamers restream the original Korean stream, so this shouldn't be an issue at all actually. I've already seen Yaoyuan restreaming Mystlord though. when there's a will, there's a way. glad you guys have at least a way around it. Man it sucks that YT is blocked in some countries. wow esportstv has already uploaded the first 3 games, should have the other 2 within the next hour I think yeah i know it's really weird, i'll keep believing it's something about my PC rather than anything weird like that. then again if they/YT know that YT doesn't want germans to watch BW with sound the livestream could very well be set to not work in the first place, remember it didn't work the other time too. i didn't check if the other videos had any of the copyrighted music (man, why limp bizkit that's gonna draw attention!) If it's just the source crashing and that doesn't keep happening it's a non issue really, just annoying right now. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
vT the outer ring is probably what breaks TvP. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:01 ArvickHero wrote: Why is Outlier being argued that it's not good for Protoss? It's a great Protoss map lol, PvZ 10 min patch, close rush distance, cramped center making Protoss even more deadly. Outer expoes lead to easy Protoss 3rd, and Zerg can have a difficult time getting 5th/6th expoes up. vT the outer ring is probably what breaks TvP. 5th/6th look pretty straightforward if they raze a few temples. The third looks a bit hard to keep though. | ||
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