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On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters.
if u think a litle. wo win the last two proleague ? and who was the coach ? i think lee do good plan.cuz im sure skt1 dont prepare to face all those zerg but, skt1 toss really show a great skill today 
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On December 10 2011 00:36 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters. if u think a litle. wo win the last two proleague ? and who was the coach ? i think lee do good plan.cuz im sure skt1 dont prepare to face all those zerg but, skt1 toss really show a great skill today
we won the two last proleague because the first one we had violet and the second if it wasn't for winner league you think kt would have made a come back ? . At least stx soul team do not get humiliated like kt does, when ever some teams steam rolls over them . I am still crying over the fact that if luxury was still with us we wouldn't be called kt lolster all the time .........
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On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters.
It's my first time hearing these term 'KT Lolster' and 'KT Dumpster'. Thanks for the great laugh. I still prefer KT Roflster though honestly. As far as fanboyism goes, you pretty much broke the fanboy-meter.
I'll sleep well tonight reading your post. 
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Damn u SKT's tosses. It is 2nd round already but I haven't seen Fantasy play
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On December 10 2011 00:44 sinistral wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters. It's my first time hearing these term 'KT Lolster' and 'KT Dumpster'. Thanks for the great laugh. I still prefer KT Roflster though honestly. As far as fanboyism goes, you pretty much broke the fanboy-meter. I'll sleep well tonight reading your post.
Aughh T_T , I don't think i will sleep well tonight , I will freaking write another article if kt starts owning up all the haters team " Skt1,CJ, especially woongjin with doothegee as a fan , every time I see his comments about my team like this for example
" On July 24 2011 16:01 doothegee wrote:
KT is the only team who spends 50% of their interviews talking about how it's so hard for them, blahblahblah. ".
I feel like going to the driving range and hit up about 400 balls to subdue the rage in me ....
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On December 10 2011 00:51 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 00:44 sinistral wrote:On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters. It's my first time hearing these term 'KT Lolster' and 'KT Dumpster'. Thanks for the great laugh. I still prefer KT Roflster though honestly. As far as fanboyism goes, you pretty much broke the fanboy-meter. I'll sleep well tonight reading your post. Aughh T_T , I don't think i will sleep well tonight , I will freaking write another article if kt starts owning up all the haters team " Skt1,CJ, especially woongjin with doothegee as a fan , every time I see his comments about my team like this for example Show nested quote + " On July 24 2011 16:01 doothegee wrote:
KT is the only team who spends 50% of their interviews talking about how it's so hard for them, blahblahblah. ". I feel like going to the driving range and hit up about 400 balls to subdue the rage in me ....
Trashtalking is great for the BW community; it's concrete proof of the liveliness of BW as an e-sport, while hyping up the game before it even starts. In the end we'll just have a great laugh about it.
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On December 10 2011 01:04 sinistral wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 00:51 Sawamura wrote:On December 10 2011 00:44 sinistral wrote:On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters. It's my first time hearing these term 'KT Lolster' and 'KT Dumpster'. Thanks for the great laugh. I still prefer KT Roflster though honestly. As far as fanboyism goes, you pretty much broke the fanboy-meter. I'll sleep well tonight reading your post. Aughh T_T , I don't think i will sleep well tonight , I will freaking write another article if kt starts owning up all the haters team " Skt1,CJ, especially woongjin with doothegee as a fan , every time I see his comments about my team like this for example " On July 24 2011 16:01 doothegee wrote:
KT is the only team who spends 50% of their interviews talking about how it's so hard for them, blahblahblah. ". I feel like going to the driving range and hit up about 400 balls to subdue the rage in me .... Trashtalking is great for the BW community; it's concrete proof of the liveliness of BW as an e-sport, while hyping up the game before it even starts. In the end we'll just have a great laugh about it.
I am usually okay with trash talking , but the thing with always my team getting the loose end because our players are not being play up to the par and than ending with the tone with many comments like " KT LOLSTER " or KT ROFLSTER. It's the point where the line should be drawn . There's nothing funny about my team ...... I don't go around calling other people team crap or something that level the same treatment so should be expected by other people .
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Are zerg like, 1 and 8 versus toss this season?? Is it the maps, the metagame, what's going on?
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^ for this match, I think that all 4 winning protoss (Bisu, Stats, Sun and even Best's PvZ) are simply a cut above their opponents. The match before with CJ versus Khan shows that zerg players can still win vs P
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Fair enough, I missed the games from the 8th. Never to early to go into zerg race panic mode!
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Yeah, KT zergs are just sucking. The demise of terrans is rather sad though.
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On December 10 2011 01:13 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 01:04 sinistral wrote:On December 10 2011 00:51 Sawamura wrote:On December 10 2011 00:44 sinistral wrote:On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters. It's my first time hearing these term 'KT Lolster' and 'KT Dumpster'. Thanks for the great laugh. I still prefer KT Roflster though honestly. As far as fanboyism goes, you pretty much broke the fanboy-meter. I'll sleep well tonight reading your post. Aughh T_T , I don't think i will sleep well tonight , I will freaking write another article if kt starts owning up all the haters team " Skt1,CJ, especially woongjin with doothegee as a fan , every time I see his comments about my team like this for example " On July 24 2011 16:01 doothegee wrote:
KT is the only team who spends 50% of their interviews talking about how it's so hard for them, blahblahblah. ". I feel like going to the driving range and hit up about 400 balls to subdue the rage in me .... Trashtalking is great for the BW community; it's concrete proof of the liveliness of BW as an e-sport, while hyping up the game before it even starts. In the end we'll just have a great laugh about it. I am usually okay with trash talking , but the thing with always my team getting the loose end because our players are not being play up to the par and than ending with the tone with many comments like " KT LOLSTER " or KT ROFLSTER. It's the point where the line should be drawn . There's nothing funny about my team ...... I don't go around calling other people team crap or something that level the same treatment so should be expected by other people .
Well you may not notice but we do have some guys with KT tags here that's really good at trashtalking SKT. It's good to gloat back once in a while.
In any case, you don't have to treat trashtalking so seriously.
On December 10 2011 01:15 Deletrious wrote:
Are zerg like, 1 and 8 versus toss this season?? Is it the maps, the metagame, what's going on?
Need more hydra busts from zerg players.
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Zergs are like 4-6 against P. The sample size is small, and they're not doing too terribly. SKT protosses are just stepping it up another notch so far.
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On December 10 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
whatever man say what you all want about my team kt lolster , kt rolfster , kt dumpster ,it doesn't affect me any more , bring on the criticism , when the day kt starts fielding out the big names like flash,stats,mind, your days are out numbered, we were just trolling around , you think any coach with a right mind would have field in zergs against an all protoss line up ? , Coach lee surely hasn't been him self lately , so bring it on the hate, it only fuels in my vengeance system and I will be waiting for that time to call out the haters.
1. About the bolded statement: What? Zergs have been favored against Protoss for YEARS, statistically. That point makes no sense.
2. Specifically for SKT, Best has never been good against Zerg (except recently, apparently), Sun is not known for solid vZ either, Fantasy's vZ is widely considered to be his worst MU, and SKT zergs are probably on par with the fielded players (except Action) in ZvZ. Zerg was definitely the best choice against SKT player-wise, not only race-wise. The only player known to be a vZ slayer on SKT is Bisu. Sending 3 Zergs is not a bad choice at all, because 2 would have 50/50 or better chance of winning, and at most one would face Bisu (who has shown weakness to Shinesque busts, which I think KT Zergs are capable of).
What are the other alternatives? Sending many T players vs. a team that is known to rely on Protosses is a bad choice statistically, and on top of that Best and Fantasy are close to the top in vT, Bisu beats most Terrans, and Sun's vT is definitely better than his vZ. Terrans outside of Flash would struggle with any of these players, and have a good chance of winning only vs. SKTZergs.
Sending many P players vs. a team that is known to rely on Protosses is somewhat more sound, but also more coin tossing, as is the nature of mirror matches. On top of this, KT only has Stats to compete with Best/Bisu (whose PvP is slumping, relatively speaking, but is still above most P players) and Sun (who isn't that bad at PvP). Also not a good choice.
Clearly, sending Zergs was the best bet.
3. Stats WAS fielded and DID get a win. Flash would undoubtedly be the 5th player, the most solid choice for winning a tie-breaker (which was a very likely scenario given what I said in point 2). Mind is a new player on the team and of course he would not be fielded this early on. When a new player joins a team, unless they are S-class, the team always has to figure out how to best utilize them. This takes time; gauging their skills in every mu, on different maps, and then comparing it to the skills of the other players. Once again, Coach Lee is doing the reasonable and logical thing here.
4. Coach Lee has infinitely more information about the maps, players, his team and the opponent team than any of us do. This, combined with my previous points, makes it clear that it is wholly pretentious to say that he is not in a 'right mind'.
To summarize, I think you are blinded by rage at the haters in this thread, and thus made many illogical claims, which is understandable. However, you were mad because you are clearly devoted to your team - use that devotion as a reason to have FAITH in your coach (like eonzerg said, you guys won PL twice in a row? Come the fuck on, how can you hate on your coach now?) and his decisions, even if they turn out poorly. Even Flash loses random games and no single player is a lock-on for victory vs any other player in general, so even if his plan turned out shitty, that doesn't mean it was a bad plan at all. I'd say that 99% of the time, AT LEAST, Coach Lee's decisions will be better than yours. A short analysis above proved this. Please keep this in mind before you hate on him in the future. It's downright disrespectful - a person who has never managed a competitive SC team ignorantly judging the most successful coach of the past 2 years.
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On December 10 2011 01:13 Sawamura wrote:
I am usually okay with trash talking , but the thing with always my team getting the loose end because our players are not being play up to the par and than ending with the tone with many comments like " KT LOLSTER " or KT ROFLSTER. It's the point where the line should be drawn .
So how about KT LOBSTER?
+ Show Spoiler +
(I know, Action is actualy KT MOBSTER )
On December 09 2011 04:11 corumjhaelen wrote:
What will happen :
Hoejja>Bisu
Stats>Soo
Flash>Fantasy.
Tears will be shed.
And no, I'm not dellusional.
Wait, WHAT!? :D
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toss op, blizz plz nerf them lol
i wanted a fanstasy vs flash game 5 >(
too bad Flash didnt play and crazyhydra lost on his bday too, cant imagine the mood in kt :\
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is it just me or has terran not played in the last 2 matches, kt/skt and khan/cj
lol
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EPT![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dLuetvtEI2U/TERJ6bSr4lI/AAAAAAAAAAw/JBz68-1fA-c/s1600/lobster1.jpg)
