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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13090 Posts
August 26 2011 13:22 GMT
#1621
You cant harras a protoss when he has map control and 3 cannons on each expo...
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1622
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?

He's godlike in all matchups (>70% winrate), but he has better stats in TvT.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1623
On August 26 2011 22:22 Holgerius wrote:
The really scary thing if Jangbi advances is that Soo in a Starleague final becomes a realistic scenario.

Oh Bartleby, oh humanity!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
nomatch353
Profile Joined January 2011
69 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1624
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?


Tvz of course
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1625
On August 26 2011 22:21 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:20 Holgerius wrote:
Flash played too passively. He turtled, didn't harass at all and didn't expand very aggressively either (the 4th was really late IMO).

But he almost won. I think he played well, just like he did against Best.

Those two games were fundamentally different oO
Jangbi played well, Flash did not play bad, but he was outthough here, and his push was not executed well enough.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1626
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?

Right now people will suggest TvT, the real answer is: all of them. =P
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1627
On August 26 2011 22:21 integral wrote:
shit what the fuck are these maps... gladiator next

if Flash gets eliminated by jangbi I'mma lol so hard


You are gonna lol much harder when Soo then beats Jangbi afterwards and becomes an OSL finalist.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1736 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1628
gonna be a sick 3rd set..
EleGant[AoV]
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1629
On August 26 2011 22:21 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
GG! The only reason why Flash loses to Ps like Best is because he's too passive :/.

Flash played the same way vs Best didn't he? Opting for a later stronger push. In their last game.

Difference is that Flash didn't harass with vultures before pushing. That difference + excellent storms won Jangbi the game. The map isn't even all that P favoured, Jangbi just played really well and Flash was too passive.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1630
On August 26 2011 22:21 Katsuge wrote:
its ok flash, that map was kinda bad :p



dont u dare screw up game 3 rawr

o_o We shouldn't blame the map if it is widely accepted as good one, I mean it is played? It was one of couple BW matches I watched and I was stunned how passive and boring (oh cmon, both players just macro'ed up) and it was decided in one fight on top of that.. Guess I shouldn't watch BW TvP
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a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1631
On August 26 2011 22:20 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:18 a7choi wrote:
flash seriously needed to harass... not let protoss get 5 base so easily..

happened exactly like that game vs best on la mancha (i think)

yeahhh.. well i think he lost to best on la mancha because he tried to split the map with a macro-oriented toss -_-
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1632
On August 26 2011 22:23 nomatch353 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?


Tvz of course

TvT of course !
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1633
Awesome game. Flash is God to me but I'm rooting for Jangbi on this one.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1634
On August 26 2011 22:21 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:20 Holgerius wrote:
Flash played too passively. He turtled, didn't harass at all and didn't expand very aggressively either (the 4th was really late IMO).

But he almost won. I think he played well, just like he did against Best.

Except against Best he went for fast double Vult upgrades and harassed while taking a much faster 4th than in this game.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1635
On August 26 2011 22:22 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
GG! The only reason why Flash loses to Ps like Best is because he's too passive :/.
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 Ermac wrote:
On August 26 2011 22:18 Motivate wrote:
On August 26 2011 22:18 Ermac wrote:
Someone PLEASE explain this game to me!

How did JangBi get away with so many bases!?!?!?

cos flash was playing too passive


Yes, obviously. But how could he expect Flash to be so passive? He took a huge gamble, right?
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 shadymmj wrote:
nice game. seems like flash had no real plan there, very different from the way he played vs best.
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:20 Holgerius wrote:
Flash played too passively. He turtled, didn't harass at all and didn't expand very aggressively either (the 4th was really late IMO).




Nothing passive about it. Its how the current TvP works. Thats the most efficient TvP build known to man. To take 4 bases, then push with 200/200 timing to crush protoss. And yes, flash used the exact same build against best.


And jangbi has found a way to counter it, thus revolutionizing the matchup.

Don't be absurd.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1636
On August 26 2011 22:22 fallingdream wrote:
Same mistake time and time again : ( no vults. The strat Flash used couldn't work on this map, there are no bridges near the P's natural that can funnel units like on Circuit Breaker. Also Jangbi had great storms and a statis. Overall bad strat from Flash and decent play from Jangbi.


yeah. of course flash is the best player ever but it's very strange that on this sort of map he would forgo vultures.
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1637
Flash's mistake was not mining up properly to stop the supporting units. Good storms by Jangbi though- PvT has been missing that for some time.
elsation
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia661 Posts
August 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#1638
On August 26 2011 22:22 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?

vs Starcraft



hahaha, well said
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1639
On August 26 2011 22:22 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?

vs Starcraft

hahahahaha
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1640
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