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[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 394

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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
August 19 2011 18:53 GMT
#7861
On August 20 2011 03:50 SuperJongMan wrote:
Hey.. Hey Best.. hey Best... hey Besty Westy~
FUCK YOU!

Really good supportive fan here.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
KT s0ng
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)88 Posts
August 19 2011 19:00 GMT
#7862
I finished work at 11 and went straight to a friend's house for some soju knowing that I missed the action...now I got home at 4:00, read the results and I've got some tears flowing...can't wait to see the VODs, KT FOREVER KT FOREVER
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 19:25:29
August 19 2011 19:25 GMT
#7863
Bisu can join Liquid now with his head held high and no regrets
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
August 19 2011 19:30 GMT
#7864
Yes! That was awesome!

KT FOREVER!
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 19 2011 19:34 GMT
#7865
Couldn't watch liven but incredibly good final.
Game 1 : beautiful hold by fanta, very tense game, the cheese wasn't bad, but roO lacked the confidence to do something else than the prepared complete all-in. But really Fanta can be incredibly clutch sometimes.
Game 2 : Perfect play by Bisu, he was one step ahead the whole time. He has learn't a lot since that game vs YellOw (even though YellOw's game plan was far superior I think). There I thought KT is plaing it too smart.
Game 3 : A bit of scrappy ZvZ, but that match up is so tense, it's perfect for a final. Hoejja is a hero.
Game 4 : WTF action, but very good overall execution from Sun (except for a few lost sairs... not Bisu yet I thinb^^)
Game 5 : Flash is incredible at those early push, and Best is not the... best at defending them. Loved that game, those scans were perfect, and Flash' execution immaculate.
Game 6 : Very one sided, those sairs did too much and after that Stats kept playing well. Very entertaining overall.
Game 7 : I would have chosen Fantasy, maybe Bisu, but Best was not a bad choice.
But man, you've got to hand it to Flash.
Excellent scouting. Very good mind games, he made Best weary of heavy vulture harass and took his fourth behind expertly placed scouting mines.
After that he was in a good position, but Best could have won if Flash had not done such a perfect push. Always at the perfect distance from Best army, vutlures in front, clutch emps... You know envelopping that army like a good PvP player can do, like Best should have been doing.
A few multitask erros as usual (mines not cleared, slow reactions to zealots), but he brung so much to the table. Nothing less than I expected from him, and that means a lot.
Flash is the best starcraft player ever, no questions.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada381 Posts
August 19 2011 19:38 GMT
#7866
Whats the prize money for SPL anyways?
NME.352 GM NA Protoss
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
August 19 2011 19:41 GMT
#7867
Flash also had some really good flanks on Best's army.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
August 19 2011 19:46 GMT
#7868
Good showing KT
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
August 19 2011 19:49 GMT
#7869
People need to stop hating on coach park. He literally got the most ideal match-ups, and can anyone really blame him for sending best out considering that he probably has the best chance against flash? If bisu or fanta were sent out and they lost, everyone would be going, "damn, he really should've sent best".

Ps: KT dynasty, first ever back-to-back winners :D
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
August 19 2011 19:52 GMT
#7870
What an epic final!

horusray
Profile Joined November 2009
34 Posts
August 19 2011 20:04 GMT
#7871
Gratz to KT! no comments, enough said by others.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6185 Posts
August 19 2011 20:08 GMT
#7872
KT for life :D

Hope to see the VOD soon, i really wanna see the ACE match
n_n
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4440 Posts
August 19 2011 20:11 GMT
#7873
Congratulations KT fans. You have the best player in the world and the support cast did exactly as was needed when it was needed. You deserved to win.

Still emo about the result though T_T
Sucker for nostalgia
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 19 2011 20:12 GMT
#7874
On August 20 2011 01:52 Heimatloser wrote:
just my 2 cents:

a expected sniper isn´t a sniper. everybody´s sayin´ that best had weeks to prepare a snipe, but all of us knew that it would be best to prepare the snipe.

it ain´t a trap if you know it´s a trap, and flash didn´t run blindly into it, he prepared himself and i would call it a double re-snipe.

everybody of us could have outsmarted coach cho.

Personally, I wasn't expecting Best at all. I thought it was 75% Bisu, 20% Fantasy, and 5% somebody else with a crazy abusive build that he had prepared for months just waiting for the chance to use it.

BeSt didn't have a crazy abusive build. They honestly expected him to win just by playing like his usual non-adaptive self with fast expos and 50 gateways.

They practiced over more than three weeks knowing what player they were up against, knowing what map it would be on, and that's the best thing they came up with? I just don't respect Coach Park very much anymore.

I'm thrilled we won and everything, but wtf kind of decision was that? They would've been much better served sending Bisu.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 20:28:24
August 19 2011 20:16 GMT
#7875
I was watching the whole thing from the very opening on the first minute and I ended up passing out at the very end ace match at around 7:30 AM only to wake up later in afternoon, watch the final match in that small vod thread (love that thread). Saw who was up, watched it half way, and just shut off the vod.. I just don't know what to say...

As a SKT fan, I had full confidence almost everyone in the team will perform the best, especially the SKT zerg but the most disappointing results were definitely the failure to have our SKT zerg perform when it really matters. I mean I can understand Flash owning and I can understand that SKT got a good chance but really now, out of all zergs we send out, how is it that none of them won?

The finals was exciting and good to watch up until set 3 when everything just went wrong. Fantasy and Bisu performed amazingly today and I was exciting about a 4-0 or 4-1 or even 4-2, as I did not expect 3-4 at all. Hell, I even thought Best sending out against Flash was the best choice they had (for both set 5 and ace).

The reason for our loss isn't BeSt losing to Flash, he pulled up a really good effort and fight. It was unfortunate that his first match against Flash, he wasn't able to do his usual macro strategy as Flash shut him down before that happened, and in the ace match, Flash was one step ahead. But for the SKT zergs, they had their ideal matchups that could have led to victory: s2, the zvz specialist, and soo whose strongest MU is ZvP. Sure, I understand Hoejja and Stats are good players and they played well, especially with the strategy they used who completely countered both of them, but I just didn't see any real spark from s2 and soo today.

What a disappointing finals for me, I'm sadden by our loss and that now we have to suffer another year from non SKT fans all over criticizing and telling us SKT fan shit and that but I guess I'll just have to endure another year. 2012 SKT Hwaiting!

Edit:

I was looking over the comments around and I read that most of the SKT fans who were there at the finals left when it was Best vs Flash. Utterly disgusting, my other reason why SKT lost, there wasn't any confidence and high morale from the fans on stage.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 19 2011 20:23 GMT
#7876
Still wondering why anyone thought Stats would lose to an SKT Zerg. Weeks of arguing the point finally validated!
Remember Violet.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 20:26:39
August 19 2011 20:25 GMT
#7877
On August 20 2011 05:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Still wondering why anyone thought Stats would lose to an SKT Zerg. Weeks of arguing the point finally validated!

That's one of my favorite things about the match. :D

For weeks, we had to hear about how Stats is overrated and the SKT zergs would mop up with him. He's more than just a solid player; he can be an excellent player. He might be inconsistent sometimes, but he showed great form against Woongjin and CJ such that I had a lot of confidence in him.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 20:40:29
August 19 2011 20:28 GMT
#7878
On August 20 2011 05:16 QuickStriker wrote: but really now, out of all zergs we send out, how is it that none of them won?


you mean all two of them?

--

i may have a t1 tag but i'm a bisu fan. this is my first year watching proleague start to finish and judging just by the quality of games i was disappointed. it sucks when you're lucky to get 1 top tier match a series; it sucks when the fantasys and bisus of the world are wasted v crazy hydra and perfective.

no big deal that t1 lost, just shows you how crappy the "strategizing" is when you put best over bisu. flash, bisu and jaedong are the best players in the world, the only S-class players left. why would you ever pick an A-class player over an S-class player? best's past record v flash is irrelevent: correlation does not imply causation. not to mention guess who's no. 1 in ELO?

once the MSL is wrapped up (come on bisu one time!) like zona i will pretty much give up bw. not because i don't enjoy following it, but because it's become an addiction. i'll scout out the 2-5 matchups a month that are truly great. im glad i got to learn A- and B-class players thoroughly and find out who all the boring players are (zergs) and make sure to follow the exciting up-and-comers (killer).

bw is weird because probably only 20 players have a 50%+ winning rate, and only about 5 players are actually consistent. the small sample sizes (even over 2 years you're gonna play, what, 80 televised games? 100 max?) lead to a lot of fluctuation, and when you toss in imba maps you're just asking to leave disappointed more times than not.

i'll keep up with and root for bisu, flash, hydra, jaedong, bogus, killer, neo.g_soulkey, horang2, stats.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 20:31:23
August 19 2011 20:30 GMT
#7879
On August 20 2011 05:28 KamMoye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:16 QuickStriker wrote: but really now, out of all zergs we send out, how is it that none of them won?


you mean all two of them?

Lol you caught me. When I first wrote my post, I wrote "the 3 zergs we send out" and then after I made the post, I realize it was only 2 after recalling each set lol. I just didn't want to completely edit out that paragraph and delete all the lines or rewrite them, too much work for me. So I improvised! :D

And it's still believe what I wrote too. At least one of the two zergs could have scored a win.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
August 19 2011 20:31 GMT
#7880
Guys, I'm dissapointed that this isn't at 400 pages yet
Hoejja was extremely clutch, and Stats shows that he can take out those SKT zergs, but thats only because it wasn't Hyuk
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
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