EPT[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 388
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:15 Thehummel wrote: Anyone know where i will be able to find Vods? I missed it  keep an eye on the stickied small vod thread in BW General, they'll likely be posted in there as soon as they're uploaded | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:15 Thehummel wrote: Anyone know where i will be able to find Vods? I missed it Moktira should have them up on Nevake within a day - keep an eye on the Small Vod Thread to see when they're available. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:07 trexbqs wrote: Best hope he will be ok. Hopefully. I'm happy KT win but quite worried after watch him lost. Hope people don't critics him too much. Well, progamer are human like us too. Please because I'm afraid he will slump again. Please don't. Again? When did he stop slumping? I mean, I know he had a small streak going in proleague, but most were terrans he should be expected to destroy if he was out of his slump. He has below average win rate in proleague, hasn't gotten anywhere of either ind league for a while, and while he has beaten flash a couple times in the past months, he's lost to far far worse players and has shown he's wildly inconsistent, kinda like Tempest. Grats to KT, Fantasy not hitting Stats is balanced out by Sun beating Action and I think overall the match ups were in SKT's favor but KT decided to fuck that and win anyways, definitely well played. | ||
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human_ko
Russian Federation676 Posts
On August 19 2011 22:51 Mortician wrote: My two cents on this: Proleague is such a big marketing venue for the companies that sponsor the teams, they don't really care that much for the price itself, but the value they can get from their team performing well. SC2 doesn't have a big team scene and with such sponsors and this is why they need to attract players and teams to participate in their league, so that THEIR league will get the best players/teams and the majority of viewers. In BW you have KeSPA, who organizes everything and just looks for sponsors to give extra cash, but they advertise the sponsor so much that it all pays out in the end. Other thing is that here players have set salaries and increases are given based on performance in proleague if you want an increased pay from the team, while in SC2 no billion dollar company has yet sponsored a team (correct me if Im wrong), thus teams need the money. It was the case with GOMTV Intel Classic, they wanted players to participate, that would give them the viewers and eventually it would be another big league that GOM could profit from (many viewers, ad venue, etc). It was not considered an "official" league because KeSPA didn't take it into consideration and they had to give the biggest prize pool, if we can trust Tasteless, in a single league. But since it was not a KeSPA thing, even if you won it, you didn't get any KeSPA points, so players focused on things that mattered, and personal sponsors were not amused by rookies beating pros, who went there to see if they can win without practising. Unlike the OSL/MSL where you get personal sponsorship. The thing that is keeping STX league is that it is a team league and big companies that sponsor the teams benefit more from it. TL;DR: It is a big advertisement for the sponsoring companies and they don't care for the prize pool as much as the advertisement they will get. He said it better ok thank you for a good explanation! | ||
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reincremate
China2210 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:08 khersai wrote: still remember how i randomly bumped into gom star invitational stream, watched flash destroy everyone when he was this little kid with fucked up teeth. he got me into bw and now watching him being the GOAT at the peak of his career, man im getting emotional I remember just starting to play BW and a friend showing me the GSI finals between Flash and Stork and me going "wow this guy is amazing". I've been hooked on BW progaming since. So awesome to see KT winning another finals with Flash playing an epic ace match. | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:27 JWD wrote: (((((((((((((((((I remember when you had Doh Jae Wook in your signature. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:15 Thehummel wrote: Anyone know where i will be able to find Vods? I missed it First set is already up on nevake, shouldn't be long before the others are up too | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:25 reincremate wrote: I remember just starting to play BW and a friend showing me the GSI finals between Flash and Stork and me going "wow this guy is amazing". I've been hooked on BW progaming since. So awesome to see KT winning another finals with Flash playing an epic ace match. I started as a Flash fan too  . This season is so meaningful to me because it made me a KT fan from a Flash fan . | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
oh and guess what, bisu is fucking undefeated against terran in regular Pl format for 4 rounds. yet coach park went for BeSt who is just statistical improbability against flash and a gimmick | ||
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Toadily
United States837 Posts
dunno why they sent best out instead of bisu out on that map but i'll take it =D | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:36 disciple wrote: I wont hide behind coach Park for this, we should've won in 4 or 5 games but its fucking illogical to play best over bisu in the biggest showdown for the entire year, having in mind bisu is the guy who worked his ass for the whole team to make it to the finals to begin with. oh and guess what, bisu is fucking undefeated against terran in regular Pl format for 4 rounds. yet coach park went for BeSt who is just statistical improbability against flash and a gimmick Eh, it's Flash, probably would've lost anyhow. | ||
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TyranoS_NiveK
United States177 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:36 disciple wrote: I wont hide behind coach Park for this, we should've won in 4 or 5 games but its fucking illogical to play best over bisu in the biggest showdown for the entire year, having in mind bisu is the guy who worked his ass for the whole team to make it to the finals to begin with. oh and guess what, bisu is fucking undefeated against terran in regular Pl format for 4 rounds. yet coach park went for BeSt who is just statistical improbability against flash and a gimmick The annoying thing is based off what I've read (yes I've worked through 100+ pages of LR, and will watch the VODs) later is that BeSt didn't seem to have anything prepared. Kingdom said it before in an interview, BeSt is good at preparing builds, but his improvisation (particular against timing attacks) seems to be kinda lacking. Flash played smart and was passive/greedy when he needed to be, gotta give credit where's it's due. But I agree with you, I have no freaking idea where Bisu was. Fantasy maybe, but Bisu? | ||
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okum
France5777 Posts
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Achromic
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disciple
9070 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:38 TwoToneTerran wrote: Eh, it's Flash, probably would've lost anyhow. even so it was a stupid move and it denied every BW fan alive around the world from the dream Finale of the most likely last PL ever. That was as stupid as playing Casy vs Jaedong just because Casy is like 4-1 head-to-head vs JD | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:36 disciple wrote: I wont hide behind coach Park for this, we should've won in 4 or 5 games but its fucking illogical to play best over bisu in the biggest showdown for the entire year, having in mind bisu is the guy who worked his ass for the whole team to make it to the finals to begin with. oh and guess what, bisu is fucking undefeated against terran in regular Pl format for 4 rounds. yet coach park went for BeSt who is just statistical improbability against flash and a gimmick Historically Bisu beats Flash every 2 years. Best beats Flash to what was before today a winning record. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 19 2011 23:43 okum wrote: I think Flash lost his macro games to Best earlier this year on purpose to trick the SKT coach into sending some easy food in the ace match of the grand final. Ten whole months of pure MIND GAME On August 19 2011 23:44 disciple wrote: even so it was a stupid move that aside what you said denied every BW fan alive around the world from the dream Finale of the most likely last PL ever. That was as stupid as playing Casy vs Jaedong just because Casy is like 4-1 head-to-head vs JD Well, maybe if Casy had beaten Jaedong 3 times this very year that would be a fair comparison. Flash just has this...ability to be so much better when it really matters. It's like the most recent MSL, everyone was calling for a close finals and Flash just elevates his game. He did it here and I doubt anyone was stopping him this time. I admit, it would be kind of poetic finish to end the season. | ||
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