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"The night is darkest right before the dawn and I promiss you, the dawn is comming."
~ Harvey Dent
Format
Random sorting will provide a 32 player bracket which will be played in MSL style format on saturday, July 16th at 19CET.
The round of 16 onward will be best of 3 matches.
Time: July 16th 19CET
Location: Fish Server
Channel: Op Eywa-
+ Show Spoiler [List of players] +Group A  Cutie[pain] < Destination > OpenSlot  LRM)OyA < Destination > gNs.I-LML Cutie[pain] < Beltway > LRM)OyA Freeslot < Beltway > gNs.I-LMLLRM)OyA < Alternative > gNs.I-LML Cutie[pain] advances 2-0
LRM)OyA advances 2-1Group B  Playa < Destination >  Target-X17LRM)Bakuryu < Destination > [FR]Dewalt Target-X17 < Beltway > LRM)BakuryuPlaya < Beltway > [FR]Dewalt W.O Target-X17 < Alternative > [FR]Dewalt double W.O LRM)Bakuryu advances 2-0Group C Michael(OD) < Destination > Freeslot iFU.SneazeL < Destination > gNs.I-TrutaCzMichael(OD) < Alternative > gNs.I-TrutaCz Freeslot < Alternative > iFU.SneazeLgNs.I-TrutaCz < Destination > iFU.Sneazel Michael(OD) advances 2-0
gNs.I-TrutaCz advances 2-1Group D LRM)Kolll < Destination > dredredreRamms <Destination > iFU.Zaraki dredredre < Alternative > Ramms LRM)Kolll < Alternative > iFU.ZaRaki Ramms < Beltway > LRM)Kollldredredre advances 2-0
LRM)Kolll advances 2-1dredredre advances 2-0+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +Cutie[pain] < > Freeslot Cutie[pain] < > Freeslot Cutie[pain] < > Freeslot Cutie[pain] advances 2-0LRM)Bakuryu < Neo Medusa > LRM)OyA LRM)Bakuryu < Eye of the Storm > LRM)OyA LRM)Bakuryu < Not needed > LRM)OyA LRM)Bakuryu advances 2-0Michael(OD) < Fighting Spirit > LRM)KolllMichael(OD) < Alternative > LRM)KolllMichael(OD) < Not needed > LRM)Kolll LRM)Kolll advances 2-0dredredre < Heartbreak Ridge > gNs.I-trutaCzdredredre < Lost Temple > gNs.I-trutaCzdredredre < Not needed > gNs.I-trutaCz gNs.I-TrutaCz advances 2-0 Cutie[pain] < Destination > LRM)BakuryuCutie[pain] < Heart Break Ridge > LRM)Bakuryu Cutie[pain] < Dante's Peak SE > LRM)BakuryuLRM)Bakuryu advances 2-1LRM)Kolll < Empire of the Sun > gNs.I-TrutaCzLRM)Kolll < HeartBreak Ridge > gNs.I-TrutaCz LRM)Kolll < Neo Aztec > gNs.I-TrutaCz LRM)Kolll advances 2-1LRM)Bakuryu < Battle Royale > LRM)KolllLRM)Bakuryu < Alternative > LRM)KolllLRM)Bakuryu < New Empire of the Sun > LRM)KolllLRM)Bakuryu < Heartbreak Ridge > LRM)Kolll LRM)Bakuryu < Tau Cross > LRM)Kolll Kolll wins 3-0
Maps
Semi-finals:
Dante's Peak SE, HeartBreak Ridge, Neo Aztec, Tau Cross
Finals:
Desert Outpost 1.0
Alternative, Beltway, Dante's Peak SE, Fighting Spirit, HeartBreak Ridge, Neo Aztec, New Empire of the sun, Tau Cross
Prize pool
1st - $50
2nd - Bragging rights
Organization: rD.Eywa-
Caster: Sayle
Sponsor: Eywa-
"Message from the sponsor: "This tournament is to keep the life in foreign bw as well as test out the balance in a new map that I myself have created. ^^ I wish all the players good luck and thank you for playing. Also, I'll be keeping track of these games for ELO count purposes. GLHF." ~ Eywa-
If you wish to play, check your inbox and if you feel that you should have received an invite but didn't, you can send me a message since I'm not uber gosu at knowing all the players >_< I think I got everyone though.
Rules+ Show Spoiler +
1) All players are subject to administrative discretion
2) Every game must be played with Mini launcher 9.63
3) All games must be played on Fish server
4) All games must be played on maps from the pool
5) All games must be saved and submitted to Eywa- on Teamliquid
6) There will be no bracket altering unless there is a severe lag issue
7) Walk overs will be awarded for excess of 10 minute tardiness for the first match, 5 minutes for every subsequent round.
8) There will be no BM whatsoever in the pregame lobby (1 warning per player)
9) There will be no chat in game and players are required to type out with a "gg" before leaving any game (1 warning per player)
10) Any decision making will be at the discretion of Eywa-.
11) Each player in the semi-finals may decline one map from the pool, map order will then be shuffled.(Players may not decline initial map)
12) Each player in the Finals may decline two maps from the pool, map order will then be shuffled.(Players may not decline initial map)
how to watch?
Map: Desert Outpost
![[image loading]](http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad83/FFC-Ifrit/DesertOutpost-5.jpg)
VODs: http://www.justin.tv/saylesc/b/290331178
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Australia7069 Posts
2 entrances to main and within spitting distance if spawning in horizontal positions?
did you even play test it at all?...
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On July 02 2011 09:04 Kiante wrote:
2 entrances to main and within spitting distance if spawning in horizontal positions?
did you even play test it at all?...
^^ I will before it starts obviously
Edit: Also, closer ramp is blocked.
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Haha, so we no longer play on ICCup ?
fine by me! Looking forward to this tournament 
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Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on.
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can you provide a picture?>_>'
Just open the map in SCMDraft2 and under file there is the option to export it as a picture.
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On July 02 2011 09:40 LML wrote:
can you provide a picture?>_>'
Just open the map in SCMDraft2 and under file there is the option to export it as a picture.
Sure, I'll do that.
Map glitch found, going to fix. Zerglings can runby eggs on ramp  --> fixing
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How could PvT ever be winnable on this map i wonder...
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On July 02 2011 10:18 funnybananaman wrote:
How could PvT ever be winnable on this map i wonder...
lots of flanks.
Edit: Also, fixed bug, going to test it.
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Map looks imbalanced, but I guess we all get to practice it ahead of time.
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Croatia9504 Posts
How in the hell is Zerg supposed to win against Terran here?
Slow tank push with mass turrets... and by slow I mean Terran is in Zerg's base in approximately 1 minute and 43 seconds.
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On July 02 2011 10:46 2Pacalypse- wrote:
How in the hell is Zerg supposed to win against Terran here?
Slow tank push with mass turrets... and by slow I mean Terran is in Zerg's base in approximately 1 minute and 43 seconds.
Easy muta harass on main gas, terran may find tanks a difficult strat off one gas.
Not to mention lurk/ling flank.
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Way too small I think. Post it on broodwarmaps.net to get reviews from the pros. Your map will be cut into pieces eaten and spit out but you'll learn about map making ^^
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deal is like this:
It's totally imba in many way.
There are alot of stupid things one could do (burrow jump over eggs, any unit that kills the eggs quickly as dt/archon/siegetank/lurker, but even a goon, first goon to go through), but if you would go for a normal game it would be like this:
- way too narrow, infront of the natural. that space? Tanks > everything there, after that, T can keep a tankline on the cliff in his main push around it to the opponent's base while being protected from the top (ofc terran would never take the long passage, as the short one takes him 5seconds to the opponents base, where it's WAY too narrow for a P to do anything at all, it's like being contained in your main and the T in your nat, imba)
- the mineral layout in the mains is partly too far away asit seems, also only 8 mineral fields as an old school map and then follow up the mappool with only newschool maps (except taucross, which also has 9 mineral fields in its main, whatsoever)
- the mains are WAY too small, how are you suppossed to fit all your supply depots and then 10factories in there? or 10gateways?
- natural only has 5 mineral patches? 13 for 2bases, compared to usually 16 (9main+7nat)
- i think terran can abuse the terrain together with supply depots too good in the middle area to be flanked too much, either the P comes from the left or the right, but that's about it, more of a carrier map in that case
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I'm the wrong person to listen to when it comes to giving direct map balance criticism, but I still think the general map concept/layout could work if the map was a lot larger.
I can see the top being pushed out further with more high ground plateaus in order to create attack and defense lanes in space other than the already present tight choke points. Split the 12 oclock into two expos with good terrain to separate them from being secured too easily.
The bottom could use a lot of space in between the bases as long it remains cutoff by ground to the top. If the bottom attack path time can be long by ground and tough to move along then it will encourage more movement to the top of the map. A nice low ground path blocked by a ton of eggs or stacked temples would help slow stuff beyond the initial 3 eggs at the ramp. This also would open up movement for both players equally once destroyed.
With the constriction of movement between the bottom and the top it would be wise to consider altering the construction of the main base so that muta harass and carriers aren't pure ownage.
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I am currently making some major mods, standby.
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On July 02 2011 11:03 LML wrote:
deal is like this:
It's totally imba in many way.
There are alot of stupid things one could do (burrow jump over eggs, any unit that kills the eggs quickly as dt/archon/siegetank/lurker, but even a goon, first goon to go through), but if you would go for a normal game it would be like this:
- way too narrow, infront of the natural. that space? Tanks > everything there, after that, T can keep a tankline on the cliff in his main push around it to the opponent's base while being protected from the top (ofc terran would never take the long passage, as the short one takes him 5seconds to the opponents base, where it's WAY too narrow for a P to do anything at all, it's like being contained in your main and the T in your nat, imba)
- the mineral layout in the mains is partly too far away asit seems, also only 8 mineral fields as an old school map and then follow up the mappool with only newschool maps (except taucross, which also has 9 mineral fields in its main, whatsoever)
- the mains are WAY too small, how are you suppossed to fit all your supply depots and then 10factories in there? or 10gateways?
- natural only has 5 mineral patches? 13 for 2bases, compared to usually 16 (9main+7nat)
- i think terran can abuse the terrain together with supply depots too good in the middle area to be flanked too much, either the P comes from the left or the right, but that's about it, more of a carrier map in that case
Didn't read all of this but the mains are small, the distance between the bases is too short (in most 2 player maps that are close spawns they are divided by air i.e paranoid android / korean air map) and the main raised terrain reaches around to the half point of the map (can siege from your main to set up a push from base to base even if the starting spawns were separated by air).
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Australia7069 Posts
On July 02 2011 11:47 Mid[N]ight- wrote:
Lol US west mass delay
the latency is exactly the same as iccup. starcraft is connected peer to peer and doesn't run through a server. the server is only for the lobby
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what the devil is this map??? zerg can fly an overlord from the beginning and be at enemy base in like 20 seconds. useless 4 minerals in middle. even more useless 2 geysers on cliffs with no ramps and no minerals???
narrow chokes to your nat guarded by cliffs from your main. narrow middle means pretty much no flanks... T could place like 4 tanks at those 3 hills in the middle and cover pretty much the whole middle. hell they could wall off parts of the map and make it even more claustrophobic.
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I think you guys are approaching this from the wrong perspective
Sponsor: Eywa-
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Australia7069 Posts
just because he's sponsoring it doesn't mean that we can at least try to change his mind =.=
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I wouldn't use that map unless you want to have terrible games for the players and them really not at all have as much fun as they would with a decent map.
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The map characteristics is like maps from sc2 
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On July 02 2011 12:32 Kiante wrote:
just because he's sponsoring it doesn't mean that we can at least try to change his mind =.=
Well why not? :o
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
if people have problems with having this on USWest why not host it on fish?
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On July 02 2011 12:10 hellbound wrote:I think you guys are approaching this from the wrong perspective
I like the criticism if I cannot alter it adequately it might be removed. But I think it has a good concept >_<
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On July 02 2011 13:02 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 12:10 hellbound wrote:I think you guys are approaching this from the wrong perspective Sponsor: Eywa- I like the criticism if I cannot alter it adequately it might be removed. But I think it has a good concept >_<
It would have to be altered quite a bit, i.e cross map spawns or corner map spawns with inverting the terrain
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On July 02 2011 13:07 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 13:02 Eywa- wrote:On July 02 2011 12:10 hellbound wrote:I think you guys are approaching this from the wrong perspective Sponsor: Eywa- I like the criticism if I cannot alter it adequately it might be removed. But I think it has a good concept >_< It would have to be altered quite a bit, i.e cross map spawns or corner map spawns with inverting the terrain
I think its okay now, I'll upload the new version. doing egg test though.
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On July 02 2011 09:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on.
If you really think he would put his personal hard earned money up without a way to catch hackers, oblivion is quite an accurate adjective.
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On July 02 2011 15:43 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 09:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on. If you really think he would put his personal hard earned money up without a way to catch hackers, oblivion is quite an accurate adjective.
Oblivion maphack is undetectable on battle.net, it's a fact (as long as you don't blind 8 rax bunker ramp in anticipation of a 4 pool or something obvious along those lines lmao).
Example: PvT.
I have all other oblivion functions turned off, only maphack. I open standard 1 gate core, while my opponent 2 factories. I purposely scout the WRONG way, but put down my 2nd gate + robo anyway because I play "safe" or "suspect" cheese. Can you accuse me of hack? I think not.
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On July 03 2011 02:29 Ravencruiser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 15:43 Game wrote:On July 02 2011 09:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on. If you really think he would put his personal hard earned money up without a way to catch hackers, oblivion is quite an accurate adjective. Oblivion maphack is undetectable on battle.net, it's a fact (as long as you don't blind 8 rax bunker ramp in anticipation of a 4 pool or something obvious along those lines lmao). Example: PvT. I have all other oblivion functions turned off, only maphack. I open standard 1 gate core, while my opponent 2 factories. I purposely scout the WRONG way, but put down my 2nd gate + robo anyway because I play "safe" or "suspect" cheese. Can you accuse me of hack? I think not.
You still don't get it... I won't reveal how me or Eywa have the ability to catch any cheater/hackers, but if you think you can hack in his tournament, feel free!
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Australia7069 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:29 Ravencruiser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 15:43 Game wrote:On July 02 2011 09:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on. If you really think he would put his personal hard earned money up without a way to catch hackers, oblivion is quite an accurate adjective. Oblivion maphack is undetectable on battle.net, it's a fact (as long as you don't blind 8 rax bunker ramp in anticipation of a 4 pool or something obvious along those lines lmao). Example: PvT. I have all other oblivion functions turned off, only maphack. I open standard 1 gate core, while my opponent 2 factories. I purposely scout the WRONG way, but put down my 2nd gate + robo anyway because I play "safe" or "suspect" cheese. Can you accuse me of hack? I think not.
Wow, someone is pro iccup i see. lol. nice to see that the people who are pro iccup at the ones who want to hack  P
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On July 03 2011 02:38 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 02:29 Ravencruiser wrote:On July 02 2011 15:43 Game wrote:On July 02 2011 09:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on. If you really think he would put his personal hard earned money up without a way to catch hackers, oblivion is quite an accurate adjective. Oblivion maphack is undetectable on battle.net, it's a fact (as long as you don't blind 8 rax bunker ramp in anticipation of a 4 pool or something obvious along those lines lmao). Example: PvT. I have all other oblivion functions turned off, only maphack. I open standard 1 gate core, while my opponent 2 factories. I purposely scout the WRONG way, but put down my 2nd gate + robo anyway because I play "safe" or "suspect" cheese. Can you accuse me of hack? I think not. You still don't get it... I won't reveal how me or Eywa have the ability to catch any cheater/hackers, but if you think you can hack in his tournament, feel free!
It's not like I'm playing in this tourny, but fyi I've played in clan wars before where people maphacked and it was totally undetectable to bwhf, wdetector, minilauncher, etc etc. Bottom line, nothing worked as long as the hacking player didn't make it too obvious.
But hey you're the ultimate pro programmer that must have made your own ultimate anti-hack that somehow detects a hack which strictly only affects and interacts with the cheating player's client computer, without the need to require players to install the aforementioned anti-hack on their client side.
Good luck.
Edit:
None of the AH custom maps work either. So I eagerly await the end of the tournament when you're free to divulge your mad anti-hack skills.
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On July 03 2011 02:54 Ravencruiser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 02:38 Game wrote:On July 03 2011 02:29 Ravencruiser wrote:On July 02 2011 15:43 Game wrote:On July 02 2011 09:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Time to get out the oblivion hacks again?
US West... Seriously come on. If you really think he would put his personal hard earned money up without a way to catch hackers, oblivion is quite an accurate adjective. Oblivion maphack is undetectable on battle.net, it's a fact (as long as you don't blind 8 rax bunker ramp in anticipation of a 4 pool or something obvious along those lines lmao). Example: PvT. I have all other oblivion functions turned off, only maphack. I open standard 1 gate core, while my opponent 2 factories. I purposely scout the WRONG way, but put down my 2nd gate + robo anyway because I play "safe" or "suspect" cheese. Can you accuse me of hack? I think not. You still don't get it... I won't reveal how me or Eywa have the ability to catch any cheater/hackers, but if you think you can hack in his tournament, feel free! It's not like I'm playing in this tourny, but fyi I've played in clan wars before where people maphacked and it was totally undetectable to bwhf, wdetector, minilauncher, etc etc. Bottom line, nothing work ed as long as the hacking player didn't make it too obvious. But hey you're the ultimate pro programmer that must have made your own ultimate anti-hack that somehow detects a hack which strictly only affects and interacts with the cheating player's client computer, without the need to require players to install the aforementioned anti-hack on their client side. Good luck. Edit: None of the AH custom maps work either. So I eagerly await the end of the tournament when you're free to divulge your mad anti-hack skills.
You do realise, there are 1001 programs that allow you to overide the iccup anti-hack and run a map hack? I don't understand what the difference. AND I doubt any other foreigner wants to end up like Scan anyways. These are all respectable players and if they want to risk their rep, fine by me.
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There are methods to hack on iCCup, not being detected, enough people do it.
Most obvious hack is this (and hell, it worked with the antihack and didn't drop the player):
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/759910-new-hack
1500 drones get spawned from making an extractor, the antihack didn't disconnect him, the opponent only saw it in the replay, because he was curious how he lost, and had to report it manually.
So, how good is this antihack system? It's basically only good for the 30 extra points on MotW games!
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Its great that your helping to provide for the current scene but whats with this current phenomenon of using weird as shit maps?
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I for one welcome crazy imbalanced maps. Better than using a forgettable cookie cutter macro map.
Even better would be a tournament played on brand new custom maps never revealed before the day of the tournament.
-dredredre
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Australia7069 Posts
On July 03 2011 03:57 andreyyisbestandrey wrote:
I for one welcome crazy imbalanced maps. Better than using a forgettable cookie cutter macro map.
Even better would be a tournament played on brand new custom maps never revealed before the day of the tournament.
-dredredre
why is this? Playing on regular maps means the players have more time to prepare, meaning better strategies. When u throw a weird map into the works, it'll probably just end up as a cheese fest.
for example, in ISL1 they played hitchhiker. Of the games i watched personally on that map, only one of the games got past the early/mid game.
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I don't understand all the people complaining about the map balance. It's only a $50 tournament and is supposed to generate fun. If players think the balance lowers their odds too much then they don't have to play. I don't think it's a big deal really.
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New location: Fish Server.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 03 2011 12:31 Eywa- wrote:
New location: Fish Server.
Yay!
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Hey im ig.target/target-x17/heros)sharewar/target[light] etc
I would be interested as a sub or invite if you havent filled it up yet
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Australia7069 Posts
On July 03 2011 12:31 Eywa- wrote:
New location: Fish Server.
you should probably add in that people need to be at mini launcher 9.63 or something like that
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This map looks actually pretty imbalanced
would it be better if the spaw locations would be in the corners of the map and the ramp with eggs wouldnt be directly connected with your main base ?
hmm
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On July 05 2011 01:16 Sinedd wrote:
This map looks actually pretty imbalanced
would it be better if the spaw locations would be in the corners of the map and the ramp with eggs wouldnt be directly connected with your main base ?
hmm
Well you're describing a whole different map design. 
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On July 03 2011 12:31 Eywa- wrote:
New location: Fish Server.
why?
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On July 05 2011 09:42 Assault_1 wrote:why?
Im pretty sure cuz of all the drama with iccup and the isl2
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On July 05 2011 09:50 Oh.Canada wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 09:42 Assault_1 wrote:On July 03 2011 12:31 Eywa- wrote:
New location: Fish Server. why? Im pretty sure cuz of all the drama with iccup and the isl2
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Ummm its because too many players wouldn't be able to play on west due to losing their keys.
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oooops my bad. Totally wrong
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Update to the OP. Groups added.
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I don't understand why people get the illusion to write LML as LmL, where do I ever write my name like that?
btw, the tag is gNs.I- not gNs-I. Same for Teddy, trutacz's is correct.
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a little kind request
Would somebody update the OP with the flags of countries from which the participating players are ?
that would be HIGHLY apprieciated
(for gg.net's gosubets)
thank you !
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On July 05 2011 10:27 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 09:50 Oh.Canada wrote:On July 05 2011 09:42 Assault_1 wrote:On July 03 2011 12:31 Eywa- wrote:
New location: Fish Server. why? Im pretty sure cuz of all the drama with iccup and the isl2 ... Ummm its because too many players wouldn't be able to play on west due to losing their keys.
Losing keys? o.0? Source?
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Sorry LML, Fixed, Also KiDCaNaDa replaced by DeSka, KC has no computer to play in this, sorry to hear ... now more >_<.
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On July 07 2011 01:39 Sinedd wrote:a little kind request Would somebody update the OP with the flags of countries from which the participating players are ? that would be HIGHLY apprieciated (for gg.net's gosubets) thank you !
dM-Gotunk(Chile)
LRM)Semih(USA)
dredredre(USA)
sas.skzlime(Hungary)
Cutie[pain](Canada)
Target-X17(Canada)
Michael(OD)(USA)
Nb.TerroR(Peru)
iFU.LastGosu(USA)
BSt.Gag(Russia)
sas.Ace(Hungary)
Jumper(USA)
Pidgin(Germany)
Playa(USA)
Sziky(Hungary)
gNs.I-LML(Germany)
LRM)Choosy(Poland)
LRM)OyA(Sweden)
LRM)Kolll(Germany)
LRM)DeSka(Mexico)
LRM)TriX(Poland)
iFU.SneazeL(Poland)
gNs.I-TrutaCz(Poland)
LRM)Bakuryu(Germany)
Ramms(Russia)
SL]..Bibiane(Canada)
[FR]DeWALT(Russia)
Hannigan(Ukraine)
LRM)OctZerg(Republic of Macedonia)
JoeKim(USA)
dsaqwe(Croatia)
iFU.ZaRaki(Spain)
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On July 07 2011 14:03 Jumperer wrote:
are we playing on neo beltway or the old beltway? How do i play on fish server?
Neo, download mini-launcher --> click fish server ---> Make account in server.
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so just won 4 months of rent tonight so far gonna get my keyboard and get some real practicce in
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wow 4 LRM) in the same group, talk about team kill...
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so this is going to be played and streamed soon right ?
I cant wait
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
Poll: Most exciting group?B (4) 24% F (4) 24% C (3) 18% D (3) 18% E (3) 18% A (0) 0% G (0) 0% H (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Most exciting group? (Vote): A
(Vote): B
(Vote): C
(Vote): D
(Vote): E
(Vote): F
(Vote): G
(Vote): H
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Group F imo
and not even because im from Poland
its just the fact that its exciting
Group B right after tho
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I should really play some before the tour again>_>' Didn't play in almost a week, what, shame on me.
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On July 16 2011 04:39 LML wrote:
I should really play some before the tour again>_>' Didn't play in almost a week, what, shame on me.
That's a shame, you are totally favourite to win the whole thing.
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I guessed so.
I am sorry if I let anyone down, blame minecraft for it!
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On July 16 2011 08:41 CaStrO wrote:
where is CaStrO?
people dont know You're still playing !
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where i can download Fish Reg and mini launcher?
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So I hope more then 5 people show up:D
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cool fish server seems to be down
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Aparently you have to use the fish backup server lmao
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We're all here. Come to op eywa- everyone. Fish server.
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i need register to website of fishserver?
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On July 17 2011 02:02 CaStrO wrote:
i need register to website of fishserver?
No just get on via minilauncher and make it in the server like if you were logging onto reg battle.net
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hey eywa can send me to acces direct to register?
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well my regs are all fed up stilll waiting for you playa in icup
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sayle can u make the ingame sounds alittle bit louder?
and ur mic totally overdrives when u speak louder
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I'm trying to get minilauncher to work, give me a sec =(
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The server shut down will not save you Bakuryu!
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Hi,
Is the tournament going on right now? I would really like to watch. I'm on Sayle's stream and he's playing some kind of weird game (lol). Any tips on how to watch would be much appreciated
Arg, Central European Time? Well any info on whether it's still happening and when I can watch is still appreciated
I guess it's probably over, oh well.
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On July 17 2011 09:09 Djabanete wrote:Hi, Is the tournament going on right now? I would really like to watch. I'm on Sayle's stream and he's playing some kind of weird game (lol). Any tips on how to watch would be much appreciated Arg, Central European Time? Well any info on whether it's still happening and when I can watch is still appreciated I guess it's probably over, oh well.
The casts will be recorded and linked soon.
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Nooooooo~ZvZ semifinal, finals
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On July 17 2011 12:46 Black[CAT] wrote:Nooooooo~ZvZ semifinal, finals
because of the map probably
only this amount of people showed up
so sad
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On July 17 2011 18:42 Sinedd wrote:because of the map probably only this amount of people showed up so sad
Didn't even get played.
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I played it vs OyA!
While playing I noticed that there is this easy trick for cheese: while being in your opponents mineral line, select a probe from your mineral line and send it to his minerals, it then will go through both egg walls and you can safely proxy in his main, or just scout again;P
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Too much zvz
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Don't want to hate. Just want to give my honest opinion. You should never end up playing unexpected maps on any given day of a tourney. In my experience, that puts terran players at a ridiculous disadvantage, while toss is a race where it's only going to benefit them. For zerg, I have no idea about that race, so I won't comment. I just think it becomes pointless to end up having games where the quality can't be good due to circumstances.
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On July 18 2011 08:50 playa wrote:
Don't want to hate. Just want to give my honest opinion. You should never end up playing unexpected maps on any given day of a tourney. In my experience, that puts terran players at a ridiculous disadvantage, while toss is a race where it's only going to benefit them. For zerg, I have no idea about that race, so I won't comment. I just think it becomes pointless to end up having games where the quality can't be good due to circumstances.
I really don't see how anyone could have had an issue with Destination being an unknown map..
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On July 18 2011 09:02 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 08:50 playa wrote:
Don't want to hate. Just want to give my honest opinion. You should never end up playing unexpected maps on any given day of a tourney. In my experience, that puts terran players at a ridiculous disadvantage, while toss is a race where it's only going to benefit them. For zerg, I have no idea about that race, so I won't comment. I just think it becomes pointless to end up having games where the quality can't be good due to circumstances. I really don't see how anyone could have had an issue with Destination being an unknown map..
Unless you're a pro gamer or join clans, because you think there's a point to it, there's really no good reason to play a lot of different maps. You're talking about a tourney involving a lot of players that haven't played in months to years, that just come back for the hell of it to play in tournaments. Destination is a popular map. I might have played it 7 times before, with the last time being 6 months ago, though. Korean pros practice 14 hours a day for a reason... Try playing terran some time on maps you're not very familiar with. Let's see how good your builds are and how well you utilize the terrain. It's a silly premise.
I don't mean to hate, I really don't. Having tournaments is always better than not having tournaments. I'm just offering my opinion that the importance of practice should not be forgotten. Some people like having a logical reason in order to play different maps.
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Well, then don't accept an invitation, the maps were listed before.
If you don't even know destination, how are you suppossed to know any of the newer maps?
Either practice on the maps, or accept that they are played, eventually you weren't forced to play in the tournament.
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My bad. I was under the assumption that each round would be played on different days. I've never played in something like this or seen something like this format that wasn't played that way. Assumptions are bad. My fault. Please forgive me Great tournament and nice of you to host.
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cool I got disq for silly reasons so I probly wont be wasting any more of my time - Target
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On July 17 2011 19:06 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 18:42 Sinedd wrote:On July 17 2011 12:46 Black[CAT] wrote:Nooooooo~ZvZ semifinal, finals because of the map probably only this amount of people showed up so sad Didn't even get played.
oh... lol
didnt know that ;P
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On July 18 2011 09:31 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 09:02 Eywa- wrote:On July 18 2011 08:50 playa wrote:
Don't want to hate. Just want to give my honest opinion. You should never end up playing unexpected maps on any given day of a tourney. In my experience, that puts terran players at a ridiculous disadvantage, while toss is a race where it's only going to benefit them. For zerg, I have no idea about that race, so I won't comment. I just think it becomes pointless to end up having games where the quality can't be good due to circumstances. I really don't see how anyone could have had an issue with Destination being an unknown map.. Unless you're a pro gamer or join clans, because you think there's a point to it, there's really no good reason to play a lot of different maps. You're talking about a tourney involving a lot of players that haven't played in months to years, that just come back for the hell of it to play in tournaments. Destination is a popular map. I might have played it 7 times before, with the last time being 6 months ago, though. Korean pros practice 14 hours a day for a reason... Try playing terran some time on maps you're not very familiar with. Let's see how good your builds are and how well you utilize the terrain. It's a silly premise. I don't mean to hate, I really don't. Having tournaments is always better than not having tournaments. I'm just offering my opinion that the importance of practice should not be forgotten. Some people like having a logical reason in order to play different maps.
I've seen your match-list before, every game PvT or TvP on fighting spirit or python... No wonder you have trouble adapting to other maps, tbh I don't think this affects the majority of players it's not a terran imba problem.
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