Looks like both players have expanded since we last left FBH has taken 3 o clock Hiya looks to have taken 6.5 and 7 Hiya has 2 starports and is starting to make wraiths
FBH making his second starport now Looks like both players have lined various areas of the map with turrets
Hiya making the science facility He's also got +1 weaps on his ground units
Hiya has a force of wraiths picking off FBH's tanks in the center of the map, FBH losing a number of tanks, he finally brings his own wraiths to fight them off. Meanwhile FBH is moving units over to the left side of the map
More of FBH's tanks are dying to cloaked wraiths.
FBH starting to build some turrets at 9 o clock where he has established a small tank line.
FBH pumping from I think 6 factories, he's also got +2 weaps on ground units
Meanwhile Hiya is pumping wraiths from 5 ports FBH expanding over to the top left side of the map taking both 11 and 11.5 The map is pretty much split in half
battle in the center of the map, tanks are exploding, Hiya still has a large amount of tanks in the center though FBH trying to surround those tanks as he takes his position over the ridges
Hiya attacking some tanks with his cloaked wraiths, he's also unsieged his tanks, moved them up and reseiged them to attack more of FBH's units while they're occupied by the wraiths
FBH bringing in his own wraiths now to counter the tank numbers, he's picking off a few and there's no real anti air
Hiya expanding to 8.5
Both players trying to inch their tanks forward to take control of the center
FBH taking over 3 o clock, he's lined that expo with turrets and they're going to destroy that floating ebay FBH adding another 4 ports to his production line, he's also started a CC at 3 o clock
instantly the CC at 3 for Firebathero evaporates to the wraiths of Hiya's, Firebathero picking off tanks here and there, but losing a few wraiths himself to Hiya's much bigger wraith force.
More starports going up for FBH Map is still split and there's still a stand off in the middle with no army able to advance any further
The only map movement is coming from the wraiths FBH picking off more tanks where he can in the center Hiya is relying on his wraiths for anti-air and they can't cover all the tanks. Meanwhile FBH's tanks are protected by goliaths
Hiya is only mining gas from that 3 o clock, FBH bringing in 4 scvs to build turrets there lol Hiya brings his wraiths in and destroys all the turrets and scvs though
On June 13 2011 18:33 jaQi wrote: I really can't appreciate TvT, I just can't
Both players are showing nice stuff, but somehow it doesn't entertain me at all.
Yeah soemtimes games that go the way of the wraiths can be a little boring compared to the dropship play. Generally these wraith games build a lot of tension though, hopefully there's a pay off in this game.
both players just moving their mass wraiths around, Hiya still with the larger wriath army, but FBH has a larger ground army
Hiya continuing his wraith destruction as he returns up the left side the map He's attacking 12 o clock now, turrets and scvs exploding everywhere FBH's ground army unable to do anything and he doesn't have the wraith numbers to combat Hiya's air force!
12 o clock has been razed Hiya looking to level 11.5 now, wraiths arrive to fight them off though
FBH allowed too many wraiths to be built, the mobility is far too great, his liths will never catch up. It's all or nothing to be honest for firebathero.
Hiya just leveling CC's now, he destroys the CC at 2.5 His wraiths now set their eyes on the map, but goliaths are not far behind and Hiya flies his wraiths away
wraith mobility>goliath mobility Hiya returning back to 11.5 and attacking the CC there meanwhile FBH is rebuilding a CC at 11 along with an ebay
Both players seeking to rid themselves of pathetic supply hogging ground units so that they might all be replaced by the noble wraith, majestic eagle of the TvT match-up.
On June 13 2011 18:56 Fenrax wrote: That was an insane move by HiyA going along the edge of the map and sniping 6 CCs. Good game!
FBH should have countered when that happened, although I suppose Hiya was pretty well entrenched with tanks + turrets, which kind of hard-counter gols + wraith. Tough game for FBH.
Edit: FBH had 12k gas and 4k mins when Hiya did that fly-by, haha. Such a massive macro game.
On June 13 2011 18:56 Fenrax wrote: That was an insane move by HiyA going along the edge of the map and sniping 6 CCs. Good game!
FBH should have countered when that happened, although I suppose Hiya was pretty well entrenched with tanks + turrets, which kind of hard-counter gols + wraith. Tough game for FBH.
Edit: FBH had 12k gas and 4k mins when Hiya did that fly-by, haha. Such a massive macro game.
I believe he was actually about to make a move as he had tank unseiged, but Hiya made it first. goliaths restricted to land movements made that attack all the more worst
Killer going 12 hatch and sending out a drone scout to 12 scv passes overlord, giving both players positions away drone changes scouting direction straight away and heads for Piano's base
rax finished with marine in the making Pool almost finished
Mutas/lings engage with marines, lings are dead, mutas picking off left over marines
drone moves out looking to take 12 again ebay finished, and Piano has lined his base with turrets
Ohh Killer running his mutas into marines, they take a lot of fire and 1 muta goes down Mutas heading over to Piano's base to pick off some units moving out, firebat picked off along with a marine
Mutas continue doing their dance, meanwhile another group of mnm are headed towards 12 oclock again
Mutas and ling surround kill off the mnm force before they make it to 12 o'clock
2 lurkers are morphing in the middle of the map Lings threaten piano's nat, but he has a bunker with marines loaded, lings back off Piano adds another bunker at the nat for added safety
Lurkers finished! Marines head to 12 to find the hatchery
Lings/lurkers/mutas attacking the nat
bunkers go down! marines shreded!
2 tanks are out but no seige, scan goes off killing the lurkers, more marines pop out of the rax only lings are left now They're cleaned up by marines/tanks
Marines have +1 whilst zerg units have +1 carapace
Lurkers moving over to 12 to defend first vessel finished as piano contiues to pump from 6 rax He's adding a second starport also
Nydus made at the nat Piano moving his units out Lurkers move in with lings, some tanks and mnm are dead but the lurkers retreat after that small attack
mnm on the move towards 12 with the vessel leading the way Nydus transports lings/lurkers to defend
2 dropships on the move! drop inside the main 1 DS is scourged! Lings arrive but the marines are too much SWARM! marines forced to move as the lings start riipping into them defiler down! second DS scourged
Another defiler appears, lurkers running inside to defend, damn that;'s some sweeeet marine micro they maneuver around the main and kill some more units still 1 marine left! lings arrive to kill him off
robo and adun warping in Seige is finished and the goons take 1 shell before backing off
acadamy and armory finished, comsat added observer tech warped in. Stargate warping in now
DS made and just crosses paths with the observer, don't know if Anytime saw it He did as he sends unit in vultures dropped into the main, vultures blocked by a pylon, they turn their eyes to the nat instead but Anytime brings in some more goons and dismantle those vultures
science facility being built arbiter tech finished as Anytime adds 2 more gates (4)
vulture laying a mine at 3 o lcock to keep tabs on any potential expos
goons arrive and eat that mine, both goons die, meanwhile the vulture picks off a probe sent to 3 to start a nex
Forge spinning at the nat as Anytime adds a cannon there 2 more facts being added (6?), anytime adding to more gates (6)
DS on the move again, meanwhile protoss army defusing mines
DS enters the main, there's a cannon there and a goon. Vultures attack the the probes, arbiter puts them under cloak and the vultures are taken care of
Canata building a CC in his main, Anytime expanding to 3 o clock, vultures raid that expo before it's finished though, probe down. vultures targeting the nex, protoss army arrives and saves the expo
vessel flies towards the protoss army and emps all of them
Canata adding his 6th factory now
canata engages with the goons, goons retreating towards the 3 o clock! Tanks seige up! they shell the nex, more goons arrive and save the nex! It's deep in the red!
wtf anytime, arbiter sitting near 9 o clock is killed by a wraith ahhhhh protoss forces on the move again, they're approaching a tank line, but the arbiter is emped once more by the vessel!
protoss forces engage anyway! tanks killing a lot of ogoons, but the zealots are tearing tanks apart! mine drag too!
Anytime expanding to 12.5, vultures raid it before it finishes though vultures also back to attack 3 o clock, cannon there and goons defending! CLUTCH defensE! anytime is sweating as the nex lives again!
Canata has something floating over water, can't see what it is Anytime now pylon walling that 3 o'clock
Canata has +3 weaps on his ground army DS picking up some vultures again, DS headed for 3 o clock, bypassing the pylons drops 2 tanks! THEY SEIGE UP AND THE NEX GOES DOWN!
Protoss army on the move!, they approach the tank line! stasis over the tanks, only 3 tanks sieged now Protoss forces moving and destroying a lot of vultures/tanks 6 goons fall to mines though!
Anytime on +2 weaps +1 armor Canata fending off that attack, his nat lives
Anytime rebuilding his forces and looking to attack again, he has his 3 o'clock nex has been rebuilt and he's mining there again vultures running around all over the map!
Canata taking his 4th at 11 o clock, goon spots it and Anytime moves his army towards 11 Anytime expanding to 1 o'clock
Anytime with a second army now, he engages the terran force, storms go off on tanks! Canata taking that 10 o clock expo
Protoss army wiping out the terran force, they now move over to 10, CC lifted, goons firing at the CC, CC in the red and burning. vultures trying to retaliate by attacking the NE side of protoss expansions
Canata not looking so good GG from Canata as he types out Well done Anytime!
9pool from JD 12 pool from Ggaemo, he takes his nat soon after
zerglings made by JD stream freezes, and we're back woah zerglings attacking ggaemo's nat hatch in the red, drones pulled! JD still with a large amount of lings
ggaemo managing to hold off the attack though JD at lair tech, and is morphing in a spire ggaemo just starting his lair now
On June 13 2011 20:15 Hyde wrote: 9pool from JD 12 pool from Ggaemo, he takes his nat soon after
I'm confused. What were the builds?
I think he went 9 pool, fold's stream skips for me, I saw a pool first, don't think it was an overpool It sure wasn't 12 anything <--- talking about JD there ggaemo sneaking a ling inside JD's main, trying to pick off a drone, JD lings arrive and kill off the lone ling
JD harassing ggaemo's main a little, ggaemo getting his own mutas out now
On June 13 2011 20:15 Hyde wrote: 9pool from JD 12 pool from Ggaemo, he takes his nat soon after
zerglings made by JD stream freezes, and we're back woah zerglings attacking ggaemo's nat hatch in the red, drones pulled! JD still with a large amount of lings
ggaemo managing to hold off the attack though JD at lair tech, and is morphing in a spire ggaemo just starting his lair now
Woops, thought 12 hatch GGaemo, BO Advantage ggaemo then :p
oh snap, ggaemo on the offesnive, his lings attacking JD's nat, meanwhile JD's mutas are occupied by ggaemo's air force. JD losing a few drones in the main
Jd's nat is killed off by the lings, lings enter the main, JD's drones are under attack
JD types out Well done GGaemo Military dong beating actual Dong
On June 13 2011 20:15 Hyde wrote: 9pool from JD 12 pool from Ggaemo, he takes his nat soon after
zerglings made by JD stream freezes, and we're back woah zerglings attacking ggaemo's nat hatch in the red, drones pulled! JD still with a large amount of lings
ggaemo managing to hold off the attack though JD at lair tech, and is morphing in a spire ggaemo just starting his lair now
Woops, thought 12 hatch GGaemo, BO Advantage ggaemo then :p
Meh, poor Jaedong. Tuned in and see him GG, highest losing streak ever now -.-
this is embarrassing, just go and rest already JD, its painful to watch. Whoever was talking about JD spring slump? I shall try and say that the days of JD are coming to an end.
On June 13 2011 20:24 Archers_bane wrote: Dang, JD is definitely in a slump, should probably revive that JD slump thread somewhere...Longest losing streak since when? 2009 I think
Longest losing streak in his career, Flash is 6 games, Stork is 6 games, Jaedong was 4 and is 5 now.
On June 13 2011 20:24 Archers_bane wrote: Dang, JD is definitely in a slump, should probably revive that JD slump thread somewhere...Longest losing streak since when? 2009 I think
Since forever. He never lost more than 4 games in a row before.
damn this is just devastating to watch, did you just see jd after the loss, it was like watching a guy getting rejected his proposal to the love of his life. complete pain there
On June 13 2011 20:23 Koka-kola wrote: this is embarrassing, just go and rest already JD, its painful to watch. Whoever was talking about JD spring slump? I shall try and say that the days of JD are coming to an end.
I've read so many comments like these in the past and JD always proves you heathens wrong! =)
- longest personal losing streak - ELO keeps dropping, can't remember I have seen his ELO vZ this low - ZvZ was called JvZ, now it does not seem JD dominates this matchup anymore
Whats up with the dong? Hopefully he is not quitting sc:bw in silence. Everyone has a period of slumping, as long as he keeps his head up and practice hard I think he will come back soon.
jd vs ggemo best player versus worst vZ: 154-55 (73.68%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L W L W L L W L L L vZ: 8-21 (27.59%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L L L W L L L this looks like big slump
Perfect man has a forge up, he warps in a cannon right next to the hatchery that's blocking the main entrance
hatchery cancelled
Peace making a pool, and a hatch at his main now
OMG LOL perfectman countering by placed a pylon at the entrance of Peace's main and building cannons
drones pulled! and attacking that pylon, pylon down but a gateway is warped in to block the entrance lOL drones can't reach the cannon, cannon finished
Another sair sneaking into the main to see what's up, sairs continue to threaten overlords that try to breach the wall perimeters
Hydras hugging the walls of the base trying to get shots off at the sairs
reaver finished and sitting tight
Hydras enter overlord, overlord slowly making its way to the back of the base and drops the hydras, pylon there spots it though 4 hydras make it out and kill the pylon
On June 13 2011 20:42 blahz0r wrote: wow Jaedong...what is with you lately
its been with him like half of the year already, right after Flash's 3-0, now its started to manifest itself, so that everybody finally noticed. Its not even a slump if I may say.
On June 13 2011 21:02 Hyde wrote: first goon pops out Shy starts his nexus at the nat, warps in a 2nd gateway soon afterwards
shop added to the factory, Iris starts to construct another CC inside his main
hey hyde are you korean or something? i was hanging around in daum chat rooms and when i said i was from australia they were like DO YOU KNOW HYDE and i was like O.o
shy continuing to drop 1 o clock, hindering Iris from setting up a third
Shy has now added HTs into his unit mix sci facility finished, first vessel out
Shy getting his 4th base at 7 o'clock DS arrives at 7'clock and drops 2 tanks there, cannons are warping in but they're not within range to protect the nexus there
Shy dropping again inside the main! storms over the scvs but they get away
4 reavers now inside Iris's main along with some zealots and a goon! depots going down, CC lifted! starport lifted!
ttanks arrive and the shuttle picks up the reavers and leave
WOAH shy with 5 shuttles, fuck I love his play so far, very intersting
shuttles dropping the main yet again! this time over the factories storms over a tank! zealots teaering turrets apart! reavers killing shops. 2 hts at the nat too! they storm the crap out of the scvs there vultures countering at shy's third, zealots arrive to take care of them
1 factory floating the rest are on fire
GG from Iris as he types out Well done Shy Very well played, loved the aggressive drop style
Badass awe-inspiring play, shy finally brought his dreamleague confidence to the big stage! If someone showed me this vod, I would have had to guess we were watching Kal play!
On April 26 2011 09:06 Seraphic wrote: it isn't like I don't agree with you d_so but is there any other Toss players out right now that has an actual, real chance for Gold in MSL?
Stork is probably going to lose to Hydra, then it'll be down to Grape/Horang2 and I honestly do not see the two of them beat Flash/JD/Hydra (Stork if he wins).
I just wonder how long will this last?
i think pvt needs a paradigm shift before P has any real chance for a starleague gold, similar to how queens are shaking things up in zvt. And like queens, i suspect it's right beneath our noses, we're just too arrogant to see it.
I'm thinking mass scouts is the answer to PvT.
maybe not mass scouts, but how about a scout ferrying a shuttle to stop the wraith from sniping it? perhaps unpractical in current build orders, but as time goes on i think starcraft is showing that no units themselves are useless, it's all about incorporating a build to make them work.
I hope the change will be focused on late game reavers. The reason why I think this is because so many times you see a huge protoss force recalled into a terran base, all to kill one armory or a a few supply depots. I understand the main strength of recalls is to force the terran back to defend, but wouldnt a few reavers in the mix of the recalled army pay huge dividends in damaging terran's structures faster and more effectively? /theorycraft
On June 13 2011 21:18 Hyde wrote: Thanks for streaming GTR and Fold, appreciate all the effort with trying to get us a working stream, and thanks for teh thread Fenrax
Seconded. You guys went through hell to keep the stream running.
On April 26 2011 09:06 Seraphic wrote: it isn't like I don't agree with you d_so but is there any other Toss players out right now that has an actual, real chance for Gold in MSL?
Stork is probably going to lose to Hydra, then it'll be down to Grape/Horang2 and I honestly do not see the two of them beat Flash/JD/Hydra (Stork if he wins).
I just wonder how long will this last?
i think pvt needs a paradigm shift before P has any real chance for a starleague gold, similar to how queens are shaking things up in zvt. And like queens, i suspect it's right beneath our noses, we're just too arrogant to see it.
I'm thinking mass scouts is the answer to PvT.
maybe not mass scouts, but how about a scout ferrying a shuttle to stop the wraith from sniping it? perhaps unpractical in current build orders, but as time goes on i think starcraft is showing that no units themselves are useless, it's all about incorporating a build to make them work.
I hope the change will be focused on late game reavers. The reason why I think this is because so many times you see a huge protoss force recalled into a terran base, all to kill one armory or a a few supply depots. I understand the main strength of recalls is to force the terran back to defend, but wouldnt a few reavers in the mix of the recalled army pay huge dividends in damaging terran's structures faster and more effectively? /theorycraft
Doesn't a Speed Shuttle move faster than a Wraith? If so - Shuttle speed would be a better investment since a Scout + Slow shuttle are easier targets than 1-2 Speed Shuttles.
On June 13 2011 21:19 d_so wrote: I wrote this hella months ago, feel like it's relevant now:
On April 26 2011 11:14 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 10:20 Yxes2211 wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:22 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:06 Seraphic wrote: it isn't like I don't agree with you d_so but is there any other Toss players out right now that has an actual, real chance for Gold in MSL?
Stork is probably going to lose to Hydra, then it'll be down to Grape/Horang2 and I honestly do not see the two of them beat Flash/JD/Hydra (Stork if he wins).
I just wonder how long will this last?
i think pvt needs a paradigm shift before P has any real chance for a starleague gold, similar to how queens are shaking things up in zvt. And like queens, i suspect it's right beneath our noses, we're just too arrogant to see it.
I'm thinking mass scouts is the answer to PvT.
maybe not mass scouts, but how about a scout ferrying a shuttle to stop the wraith from sniping it? perhaps unpractical in current build orders, but as time goes on i think starcraft is showing that no units themselves are useless, it's all about incorporating a build to make them work.
I hope the change will be focused on late game reavers. The reason why I think this is because so many times you see a huge protoss force recalled into a terran base, all to kill one armory or a a few supply depots. I understand the main strength of recalls is to force the terran back to defend, but wouldnt a few reavers in the mix of the recalled army pay huge dividends in damaging terran's structures faster and more effectively? /theorycraft
Doesn't a Speed Shuttle move faster than a Wraith? If so - Shuttle speed would be a better investment since a Scout + Slow shuttle are easier targets than 1-2 Speed Shuttles.
No the speed shuttle moves at the same speed as the wraith. But I agree it would be better to get speed than to get a scout to protect it, your shuttle will take damage from turrets anyway.
Really enjoyed the way Shy played today, using those shuttle, they were like mini recalls but at an earlier time with reaver fire power. Always disrupting the bases/mining, and hindering that 3rd from getting operational. Really took advantage of the immobility that is the terran ground force. Can't wait till vods are up so I can get another look.
On June 14 2011 02:08 moochu wrote: I still believe. I mean wasn't bisu in an even bigger slump just before this season? or was it the one before it?
Bisu was slumping 2009/2010. I think he still got 20-30 wins that season. But now he's so good it's hard to believe. I think if Flash didn't knock him out of the MSL he would've made to Ro4 easy.
Alright, I think JD doesnt care anymore this season, there is no OSL soon, OZ probably wont get in the playoffs, so why he should care abut winning?. im pretty sure JD will be back next season.
On June 14 2011 00:51 Xiphos wrote: So in the end, its only TaekLee (Bisu + Flash) *sigh*
Unless Bisu can get a somewhat decent result in a Starleague again it's just Lee, the bonjwa.
Unless Flash can get a somewhat decent result in the Proleague (team-wise) again it's just Taek, the bonjwa. Or whatever -__-
How I wish that using the b word was grounds for a ban on TL, the word is pure poison.
are you kidding me? Flash is a Bonjwa. He hasn't lost a Box since the korean air S1 OSL finals (someone correct me if i'm wrong). A year of undefeated Box. That's pretty damn hard to do.
On June 14 2011 00:51 Xiphos wrote: So in the end, its only TaekLee (Bisu + Flash) *sigh*
Unless Bisu can get a somewhat decent result in a Starleague again it's just Lee, the bonjwa.
Unless Flash can get a somewhat decent result in the Proleague (team-wise) again it's just Taek, the bonjwa. Or whatever -__-
How I wish that using the b word was grounds for a ban on TL, the word is pure poison.
No has ever gotten bonjwa status by dominating the PL (besides, Flash and Bisu pretty much have the same winrate in the teamleagues this season anyway).
It kinda used to be taboo to whip out that word, but don't try to argue that Flash hasn't earned it. There aren't any 4 kings of the SC scene anymore, this is the God-era.
Cant help but think why he is slumping. He always says hes unsatisfied with himself, and hes praticing more, etc. Why does he look so out of form? I predict Jaedong will do something crazy in a near future. I dont know what, but I can feel it.
If there is a player that can bounce back quickly it is definitely Jaedong. His mental fortitude can be rivaled only by Flash. I believe that it was time for him to enter some kind of a serious slump, so he can renew himself and find that spark again.
On June 14 2011 05:59 hitthat wrote: I know it may sound like ubertrolling, but... JD out of the next PR anyone? (at last if his current form will not improve?)
On June 14 2011 05:59 hitthat wrote: I know it may sound like ubertrolling, but... JD out of the next PR anyone? (at last if his current form will not improve?)
not a chance.
What do you mean not a chance? If JD keeps losing he shouldn't stay on the PR.
On June 15 2011 02:08 WaterTower wrote: The one thing that is the worst is Jaedong losing. What happened to this man? I suspect it's an injury or family troubles of some type.
Second this. I don't know any other progamer that takes his losses so personally. The look on his face after a loss is pure self disgust.
It's because JD cant believe it. When Flash loses to a second rate player such as that one guy just recently, it's the same way. Both take it personally because so much is expected of them. I personally believe that the TBLS era is over.
Stork- anit gonna recover. Jaedong- Every single zerg is using his template of how to play zvz and some are doing it better Bisu- Most protoss are doing what he does and he always loses in tournaments Flash- The injury will eventually get him
The new stars are obviously Horang2, Fantasy, Baby, Hydra, Soulkey, and Zero. It was strange to see more Zero fans in the recent Flash vs Zero series. The fans know that the writing is on the wall for the former kings. I would say that Bisu has the greatest chance of remaining the top protoss simply because he has recovered from a really bad slump once already.
On June 15 2011 02:35 WaterTower wrote: It's because JD cant believe it. When Flash loses to a second rate player such as that one guy just recently, it's the same way. Both take it personally because so much is expected of them. I personally believe that the TBLS era is over.
Stork- anit gonna recover. Jaedong- Every single zerg is using his template of how to play zvz and some are doing it better Bisu- Most protoss are doing what he does and he always loses in tournaments Flash- The injury will eventually get him
The new stars are obviously Horang2, Fantasy, Baby, Hydra, Soulkey, and Zero. It was strange to see more Zero fans in the recent Flash vs Zero series. The fans know that the writing is on the wall for the former kings. I would say that Bisu has the greatest chance of remaining the top protoss simply because he has recovered from a really bad slump once already.
i don't know what to say about stork, so i'll skip that. jaedong, i honestly don't know what to believe anymore, though he's been known for rising back after mini slumps. there's one thing wrong about bisu though, his pvz is top notch and nobody can beat him in it atm.hes just a one matchup legend though, his pvp and pvt is so flimsy that hes either playing average or shitty in those matchups. flash, he has that wrist injury. seriously, it will come back to haunt him since its been plaguing him since last year(pardon me if i got it wrong.) if he continues playing(which i bet he will since he needs to practice for proleague), he would permanently injure his wrist to the point where medical treatment may be impossible to treat it anymore.
horang2 is just a pvp wonder. other than a sniper i can't see anything else coming from him. unless fantasy brushes up his bio, theres no way he can reach flash-esque levels. zero just either plays wonderfully or plays straight out horrible.
i think this period would be the period where everything is uncertain. for now flash still stays at the top until his wrist decides to fail him and he would enter intensive medical care.
Yea so here comes the Bisu fanboy to defend his honor.
vP, well he was nigh-invincible in the past, i ll agree that he needs to recover some of that lost mojo now.
vZ, we both agree that he is heads and shoulders above the rest.
vT, he is 18-3 (85.71%) this proleague season. Sure his Carrier microplay (strikes and bolded are Edits) needs work, but his vT overall is pretty solid, especially his Arbiter play. I dont know how much more it would take to convince the doubters, but that sure was enough to convince me.
On June 15 2011 03:11 ffreakk wrote: Yea so here comes the Bisu fanboy to defend his honor.
vP, well he was nigh-invincible in the past, i ll agree that he needs to recover some of that lost mojo now.
vZ, we both agree that he is heads and shoulders above the rest.
vT, he is 18-3 (85.71%) this proleague season. Sure his Carrier microplay (strikes and bolded are Edits) needs work, but his vT overall is pretty solid, especially his Arbiter play. I dont know how much more it would take to convince the doubters, but that sure was enough to convince me.
Probably when he starts advancing in leagues again :p.
Stork is going to recover. If you watch his games he is never outplayed, but loses for reasons unrelated to his skill, he's going to destroy everyone in the OSL.
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